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messed up, can't escape

messed up, can't escape

Hi, i have nobody i can really talk to, and hoping SOMEONE here might listen, help me sort it out.

Don't know what to do. Keep pretending everything is ok. but its not. Sometime i walk across the road from work for lunch, sit in the park but even there my mind messes with me and i drift reverse into an invisible tunnel and to world suddenly seems 100 miles away at the end of the tunnel so small. I'm scared I'm gonna lose my mind.

I am on contract in the outback,! nursing. I HATE myself for it but gor seduced by a much older married man, his wife gave me permission as they have this thing called an open marriage but its messing with my head. When i tell him i don't want to see him anymore he comes in as a patient requesting to see me. Or he'll turn up at church. I'm locked in this 12month contract in the middle of nowhere & so lonely & too ashamed to try tell a soul. And can't understand how i could defile myself with gum.

Work is stressful. Neurotic boss who hid e's s in her room. We live in the clinic, us 3 RNs. I put drips in, transport emergencies, suture wounds, take blood etc No dr in town. We talk with the flying doctor who comes to do a clinic once a fortnight.

I don't want to lose my job but i don't want to crack. Wish i could just fly away.

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Never been inpatient before, accept the miscarriage. Mental Health is different. I'm doing stupid things, taking extra pills on the side. There's no counselling, or group therapy, or anything helpful, the psychiatrist hasn't been to see me yet. The charge nurse said I was passive aggressive today??? Maybe hospitals not good for me. The patients, one self harms in the bathroom. Never met anyone who does that. Why couldn't I get sick with something I'm more familiar with. Only did 3month MH module in nursing and don't recall learning anything I'm up against here now. I haven't told my family I'm here. There's this massive dead tree in the courtyard that draws me. I journal a lot. Getting angry so angry. This is not me. Who am I? I was sitting in the laundry waiting for my clothes to finish drying and the nurse came in and accused my of trying to suffocate in there, die.. This offended me as far from truth. Not sure what I'm doing here. The psychiatrist doesn't talk long. Sorry, I'm messed up. Hope its OK to talk about me. What do I expect in hospital? I don't belong here either.

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Sure is okay to talk about you @mandy84 ... it's a big part of what the forums are all about.

Sounds like the dr put you in hospital, or did you go to ED yourself ? Either way,it's a journey .... others on here chat from hospital. They can tell you more about what to expect and how to gain best from hospital care. Some fir unites have spent time in hospital at different stages, and have advice to offer....

You will have a range of emotions to work through @mandy84 .... and journalling is good.

Sending you hugs ....

💕💐💜🌷🌿

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Hi @mandy84

We hadn't heard from you for a while and I was wondering if you were okay so I am glad you have sent a couple of messages here - and sure - it's okay to talk about you

I don't think you or anyone else was putting the church down - only some of the teachings of that church which are not biblical - there's a huge difference - no need at all to feel guilty about anything

It's good you are in hospital - one one hand - but on the other it doesn't sound as if there is much therapy to help you. It sounds weird that the nurse accused you of trying to suffocate yourself when you were most likely mesmerised by the drying and just thinking - ah - we all need privacy sometimes wherever we are

Talk how you are feeling with the psychiatrist when you see him - and as for the nurses - they vary heaps - and you are there with depression and stress and anxiety and pretty much on the edge

We know you have done a lot to try and help yourself and some of it has gone a bit wrong - because you are so worn out after all that has happened to you

Thinking of your Mandy - and we are always here and we are not at all judgmental

Keep going

Decadian

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Hi @Mandy,
How are you today? I hear that you're struggling so much and my heart goes out to you because I've been where you are and want you to know this is recoverable, and there are better days ahead for you, although it feels like it - all is NOT lost.

I hope the staff, the psych nurses find some time to sit and talk with you each shift. How can they not know you need this? Without that connection each day - I get that you would feel like like a caged animal. But ignore that message, you are worth so much more. Try to express your needs to the nurses. And keep journalling, it will help you process things at least.

Did you say you were slipping yourself meds on top of what staff give you? This is not a good thing. Please hand in your meds to the nurses and negotiate extra meds with your dr.

With the other patients - is it possible to tell the staff about the other patient who is self harming in the bathroom? Otherwise don't watch or encourage it. Don't know how they have the means to self harm in hospital, thought pills and sharp objects were to be handed in on admission, or confiscated, for the safety of other patients as well as yourself.

Try to hold your integrity, don't give up. xox

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Well said @Former-Member - this is valuable information

@mandy84

I spent a few days in respite a few years ago - and the place was clean and not crowded - and I was there because I was not sick enough to stay in the hospital but too sick to be at home alone - I'd had a pulmonary embolism

I felt caged - it seemed as if very few people cared that I was there - esp one person in authority - so it was not a good experience at all - the hospital gave me a week there free of charge to me - but I went in on Monday evening and left on Friday morning - feeling miserable and determined to stay at home alone regardless

The situtation was different - true - but it was horrible to feel so isolated there

I wish you the best though - and try hard to find someone who will listen to you

Decadian

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Hi @mandy84,

I am kind of glad that your doctor put you in hospital. To me, it seems like you have been struggling along alone for way too long. I was really surprised that your depression was not diagnosed by the female doctor who saw you for a check-up after your miscarriage. I can only imagine that you are very strong and very good at covering up all your emotions... you must present to everyone a front that makes you appear to be 'coping'. I was a lot like that too, when I was depressed.

It's so good that your were able to tell the G.P. that you were having very dark thoughts. That was a very brave thing to do.

As for the psychologist who did not want you to keep crying in front of him.... I simply cannot understand his behavior. If it were me, I would have been extremely angry at him and probably would have started verbally abusing him... no joke!!

I would have thought that the one place you would be allowed to express all your emotions to the fullest would be in a psychologist's office! To be told not to cry would be very counter-productive, in my eyes. When I was growing up, I was always yelled at for crying, so for me to be told not to cry by a psychologist would have been especially triggering for me. Dunno, but I probably would have even thrown something at your psychologist! (Not that I recommend you resort to throwing things. Never a good plan. )

As it turned out, I have had very good experiences with every psychologist/counsellor that I have ever seen... and I've seen a few. I have found them too be very caring and kind.

As far as your Church goes... it may be perfectly ok, I wouldn't know. I just thought that some of the people you have met through your particular Church were dodgy - like your former 'boyfriend' with the open marriage. Look, these type of people would be just as weird whatever church you happened to meet them in! It's not exactly the church's fault that they happened to join it. There are weird people everywhere, in every faith.

I do not belong to any church, but I believe in God and I know right from wrong. I read different religious texts from many different faiths. I pray and I believe my prayers are heard. I respect people who have a genuine faith - be it Christian, Judaism, Islam, Buddhist, Hindu, or whatever. All genuine, established religions that fall back on hundreds (or thousands) of years of faith, scriptures, scholarship and charity teach compassion.

I did not feel that you received true compassion from your fellow church-goers, @mandy84. But you absolutely deserve compassion, respect and love.

Hugs to you.

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@Sahara @mandy84

Compassion and respect are hallmarks of love ....

You know the wind is about when you see the trees move, and the clouds move about the sky. You know love is present when you see it's hallmarks .... compassion, respect, foremost.

💗💕 @mandy84 .... hope you're doing okay ....

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Hi Mandy. I am moved to post in the hope that my opinion – born of similar experience and a lot of study– might resonate with you. However, it is just that – opinion. I might be entirely wrong. You’ll know as you read what I have to say.

Firstly, you are not going mad – you are being and have been for some time, psychologically manipulated by a dangerous predator. He is at the centre of a whole lot of unfortunate judgement and blame that friends and family are casting your way because he is a skilled manipulator of everybody. And some people can’t help themselves from blaming the victim. That’s just a weird thing that happens, even with family. Your fear and anger are entirely natural. So is your belief that the only person who can make you feel better is the person who is the cause of your distress.

Shrinks call this ‘trauma bonding’. A long period of intermittent reinforcement – giving us love then treating us with callous disregard – gets us coming back with our tail between our legs wagging our tails looking for approval and giving love like a dog that gets more and more loyal with a master who beats or chastises it. The primary manipulation technique used by cult leaders.

Everything you have described in terms of feeling trapped in a snare and your situation descending into more and more loss has a name. The name itself is frightening, and I don’t wish to add to your fear and distress. You are experiencing psychopathic abuse. The man you have described is a psychopath. Sorry, it’s a scary word I know. Narcissistic sociopath might be easier to digest. It might also be the term the hospital psychologist uses. He has a pathological personality disorder and he cannot change. You cannot heal him with your beautiful empathic love.

His charming easy-going persona speaking words of love kindness and devotion is a false persona built up over a lifetime to hide his true nature as a predator manipulator and exploiter. He is not nice Dr Jekyll with evil Mr Hyde inside, he is evil Mr Hyde wrapped up in a thin veneer of charming Dr Jekyll. He is dangerous.

He has used your own fine values – your love, trust, forgiveness and deep compassion – to control and manipulate you for his own gratification. I am so sorry this happened to you. But you can cope, and you CAN ESCAPE.

But you need to have NO CONTACT with him or he will continue to manipulate you – say one thing and do another, lie with impunity, use you for his own gratification until you have nothing more to offer him and he will dump you and possibly turn people against you.

I know you love him, but the man you think you love is just a sophisticated persona and not real. He is a fake. Let go of him the best you can. Grieve for your lost innocence.

Turn to people who have helped you in the past. They will help you again. Find a safe harbour where you can take the time to unravel the complex maize of confusion and anguish he has woven around you. Make your healing a priority, as you offer so much kindness compassion and healing to others in your professional role. Maybe you don’t know how to be kind and forgiving towards yourself? That’s OK. You can learn. New skills, new habits. You can replace that old habit of beating yourself up for being a bad person.

You are not a bad person. You are beautiful, kind, trusting, precious and wonderful. And inside is a wounded little girl who needs your love and protection from further hurt. Imagine taking that little girl in your own loving embrace and whispering sweet soothing reassuring words to her. Place your hand on your heart as you do it. She is in there and she needs your attention.

Telling your story can re-traumatise you. As you tell it, emotions rise up and you can be ‘flooded’ and feel overwhelmed and unable to cope. So if you can, find a psychologist who is a trauma ‘expert’ who doesn’t keep asking you to tell your story. There might be one where you are now. If a psychologist can’t cope with your anger, they are not really qualified to be treating trauma. And a nurse simply should not be telling a traumatised person they are passive aggressive. So what if you are? Let yourself off the hook for your anger. It is a huge part of being traumatised. You are not a bad person for being angry. Anger is just sorrow’s bodyguard.

Therapies that work for complex PTSD such as yours include EMDR, Hakomi, Mindfulness-based therapies and Somatic Experiencing. These help you deal with the symptoms of trauma that are present in your body. They work better than telling the story and getting flooded with fear, anger, grief and other horrible emotions. In my opinion and experience. Many Western mental health professionals mistake your anger for who you are and try to ‘fix’ that by making you investigate all the ways you are to blame for your abuse and behavioural responses to abuse. That person or environment will not feel safe. And you need to feel safe most of all to begin to recover from exhaustion and abuse. You have been abused my dear. Used, exploited, manipulated. But it’s very hard to explain the whole big picture. Telling the story over and over again might not be the best treatment.

Inside you is the strength and courage and resilience to meet this challenge, with God’s help. You will emerge from this horrendous experience with more self-compassion and love and ability to help others than you ever imagined. But for now, it is YOU who needs your own compassion and kindness and love more than anyone. You have a place to vent here and a whole group of total strangers who ‘get it’ because they have been through it themselves. Be kind and gentle with yourself. Treat yourself as you would one of your patients. You can do it!

You are a beautiful soul.

This will pass and you will get through it. Hope is not gone forever. It is just obscured by the dark clouds that will pass and let the light shine through. As Leonard Cohen said (quoting the Persian poet, Rumi); “There’s a crack in everything. That’s where the light gets in”. Take heart. You can get through this. The light will shine again in your life, just as soon as the narcopath is out of it and you are somewhere safe.

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Hi @Former-Member, and welcome to the forums.

I am sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience that resonates with @mandy84's situation .... but the empathy and compassion that results is priceless to others caught the same way.

Thank you for sharing the wisdom and insight you have collected along the way. It matters .... and contributes to the healing of others.

🌷💕

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How are you, @mandy84?

Let us know how you are doing, if you can.

Thinking of you. xx

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