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Socialising for Beginners

Socialising for Beginners

Thanks for the encouragement @Jynx
I put it in the Looking After Ourselves section as I believe the forums social spaces do a good job, of allowing the online community to get together in various social ways. I am more interested in working out or working through real life socialising experiences. Where we do not have the protections offered by anonymous online interactions.
Socialising for grown ups who have been isolated and are trying to re-enter general community groups or just trying to meet people is no easy feat. Its more difficult than for children and puppies as we usually have a lot more baggage, whatever that may mean.
From the online dictionary for a start:
verb: socialise
1.
participate in social activities; mix socially with others.
"guests can socialize in a real holiday atmosphere"
2.
make (someone) behave in a way that is acceptable to their society.
"newcomers are socialized into orthodox ways"
Similar words:
interact
converse
be sociable
mix
mingle
get together
meet
Seems to require more than simple social skills training.
I started one therapeutic relationship with that as my main goal. I knew I had limits and was willing to learn, but she was not a great a teacher and eventually admitted it was not her strength. I have accepted that I am relatively introverted and there are advantages and safety with that, but also the yearning for human connection persists within me. So I do not really want to keep myself to myself. This forum has been a wonderful opportunity for me to try different things and meet people.

Just tagging a few who I feel may be interested, but this discussion is open ...

@Dimity @Historylover @Shaz51 @Owlunar @Eve7 @Zoe7 @Faith-and-Hope

@MDT @StuF @TAB @tonys

What do you think?

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@tonys @Appleblossom

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@TAB hey there tab, thanks for tune. O K goal; setting, we can do this. step one crawl one more day out of my 10 gallon hat, left is upside down last night, bad start,

second step, see if I can feel what someones thinking through these dishwashing gloves I just can't seem to get off.

third step, Glue, saw, cut, and fit that song, just one more rail in my long long ladder, to get me back to the moon.

Today will be a day of endlessly circling clocks, in violet skies. . . . my favourite kind.

I will think off you both when I skip some pebbles across ponds. tonys moon base one.

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@tonys

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Skimming the cream off the top and we are left with an iconic rock song calling on greek myths, sprinkled with colours or fairy dust. Me gets the cream this time. @TAB I do like that last song.

They used to say not to discuss religion or politics, but talking music can be plenty religious and political. lol

@amber22 Last night as we drove across town and through some of my old stamping grounds as a young teen, I had a lovely chat about safety and walking at night with another new friend. I was so used to walking alone late at night coming home from work, from 13 years of age, after a hard day at school. I thought nothing of it. She had a much more privileged life, but we have enough in common now. Feeling blessed finally finding friends. Think I had to find myself first.

@tonys Glad you have a range of female companions. Variety can be spicy. Enjoy. Re villains.... if only you knew the females I made music with last night.... Hilarious ... Your Tale of 2 Towns is so resonant. Yet my rally driver artsy friend throws a spanner in that works, as she would fit easily in both towns ,,, maybe Nay ... she loves the earthy side more than the shiny ute side. lol

@MDT Know the feeling of growing up a little too quickly. You have found your feet though, and the whole experience has made you a good man. The world really needs good men. Cant save the whole planet, but just do what you can, a teaspoon at a time.

@Owlunar Always good to have my old friend whose shoulder I can rest on from time to time.

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Hello @Appleblossom I'm sure your friends knows though that there's a difference between

fitting into a place and being "permanently sentenced to a place" Luckily for me I'm on acres outside town, but the town itself. People sell every thing including themselves just to break out.

I'm also lucky that I'm a "specialist" when It comes to living on the streets and way prefer that life, even to living on my pretty patch on the river. If people and animals didn't depend on me,

I'd be there now.

I did travel in a small motor home for years, and should never have stopped. Best of all worlds.

Yes I am fortunate to have good female help, although it is by design, it is 'paid help' strategic avoidance of alpha's coupled with the mothering I missed "back then' . I'm with my cousin today however, more like a twin,. . . unpaid angel. . .She likes the farm, I like her place. She's on the coast, an hour from me. Taking her a couple of kgs of yabbies, Lifes choices hey. I do know I'm on a planed path back to the city, if I could read peoples feelings and signals better, it might help shorten the path.

Observation. If you want to know the state of a community. If there are more real-estate agents than nice places to eat. . . . then the cultural lamb has been slaughtered.

I'm very grateful I have choices,

I hope the rest of your weekend is tops for you folks. . . tonys moon base 1

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Hi @Appleblossom

Good food for thought. I stepped up sober and slowly and gradually stopped socialising. Definitely never socialise in groups anymore. One of the reasons I’m loving my hiking (particularly multi day hikes) is because I generally only bump into a few people. I sense that my diminished socialising has meant I have become smaller in the scheme of things…but to be honest I think I like that…

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Cheers Apple
@Appleblossom

For saying what you said there

Sometimes I feel like I'm not a good man but it's just my self doubt creeping in

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@MDT I dont think God or Nietzsche want you to be a saint or an uber uberman. You gotta a better job than that anyway. lol Chillax a little. Human is good enuff.

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Hey @Delicatessen Good to see you. We haven't 'spoken' in ages. All power to you with the hiking. I might do some more later ... working on fitness. Music friend just came back from big Tassie hike. I can imagine it can be consolidating your inner being and your physical being.

Too much of the wrong drink, can be a prob, tho I am not a teetotaller. Its funny I bought a case of wine in order to socialise 20 years ago, but that did not make me partee company. I turned inward and away from people for quite a long time, tennish years, and am slowly making a "comeback" without much wine ... kombucha it is now... ha ha. Never was that social in a normal way, but had too many people in my personal space to know what my rights were, and what was having fun, or even how to stick up for myself.

I am a little like @tonys in that part of my heart is with street people. Not the toughness, but the poverty. Still relate sometimes with them, but also can read body language and "the signs" enough to see that is not where I am in current time, it was in the 60s and 70s for me. Even if I will always have empathy. Not so naive, that I was not surprised to hear of fights and deaths when I did befriend some. When life and resources get slimmer and slimmer choices get slimmer. Life on the streets is hard and not getting easier.

Yes having choices is great, but too many people do not realise the limits in opportunity that shape individual choices. I do not like to jump too quickly to "personal choices" as I see the social everywhere.

Yep tonys, I am learning the difference between paid and unpaid care. Am thinking of giving a paid someone the sack cos she lied to me, still working on how I use it as a learning to manage it well. She is not a bad person, but more and more talking down to me and telling me what to do, so it is time for her to move on. I dont just have to accept everything anymore.

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I'm no way comfortable 'socialising' in real life. Hence, I've chosen text based SANE forums to 'socialise'. It add a layer of safety for me. If I don't like something, I move to the next page. If I don't want to respond, I don't have to - no one will say I'm rude or strange.

However, in real life, if someone says something and I don't respond, they will talk...and they'll have strange ideas in their head.

I like socialising on the forums. I have developed a lot more confidence in real life because of socialising on the forums as a 'beginner'.

By the way, if you did meet me in real life, no one would even think twice that I would be uncomfortable - and that's because I know how to carry myself in public..... but honestly, deep down, I hate socialising in real life. It takes so much out of me.

@amber22 @Appleblossom @MDT @Delicatessen @tonys

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