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Trying makes it worse

Trying makes it worse

Hi,

I'm EternalFlower and I've been feeling completely overwhelmed, sad, and pessimistic.

I've tried and been a responsible patient and person, reaching out to various services when I started feeling scarily anxious and suicidal, 2 years back..

My Dr is new, a young guy who regularly admits he's inexperienced, and aside from some good jokes, he actually does very little

I notice how easy it is to blame myself that I don't feel better, a total shame spiral, but I wander if my treatments just are bad....

I wanted to chat and hear anyone and hope I can use this space to help not feel so alone.

Thanks xxx EternalFlower

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Hi @maddison that is so irritating cm is being elusive.

I really think u articulated well the gaps and challenges in managing them

It was really awful when I had the absent cm because messages would be passed to her and requests made by my friend, my dr, myself, and it just didn't lead anywhere because she had an issue with absenteeism...

Awful

I am in hospital atm for a few days. It is intense here

There are a lot of young guys here who make me uncomfortable. Kind of idiots. Hitting on the nurses? And sexualising everything. It is too much for me.

But that is only one element.

I will stay over weekend I think

Hey @Appleblossom that's quite wonderful Ur getting some travel time. I wander if u will become more excited as it nears? Good for u

@TAB @Shaz51 hope ur well...

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Hopefully hospital helps and you get out soon @EternalFlower

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Thanks @TAB I arrived today, it is ok so far.

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Well hope things go smoothly for you @EternalFlower

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Hey @EternalFlower thanks for saying I articulated gaps well. It's so calming when we understand little things - it's hard to express & makes the process feel isolating.

Thanks for sharing what's happening for you re: hospital. Sorry things escalated for. I'm really proud that you could find a way to ask for help.

I'm not in a great headspace at the moment.

I can imagine the yukky boys in there. I would often feel very uncomfortable visiting my friend - feeling like the guys were leering at me. It's like they think they can behave however they want, or worse than normal because they are in hospital. Maybe that is very judgey thing to say - it's complex, I get it.

I'm sorry you are having to deal with that.

I might try & chat later when I'm feeling better☹️

sending you lots of 💜maddison loveliness 💜 to keep you company.

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Hi @TAB wishing u luck and hope goes well today?

Hi @maddison thanks for sitting with me through it, it is nice also to share common experience re case management and the layers and steps and hoops you have to bypass to get care. Hospital has been a bit funny and I got approved to stay away from certain areas and be exempt from things where I feel unsafe

Hi @Appleblossom @Shaz51 @Former-Member

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Hey @maddison

How did the appointment go today??

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All good @maddison @Former-Member chat when feels right for u, thank u for Ur loveliness.

Just got some (brief) leave from hospital so was able to sniff the flowers and walk around outdoors.

Then come back.

My dr now has a Registrar working with him, a psych in training. The Registrar is super efficicoent so things are happening quicker for me re my care. I'm grateful.

I've been watching Severance on apple, it's intriguing and out there. I needed something! I feel I've seen everything.

hope u are being heard and not having to deal with more excuses from Cm or team @maddison

Hope ur having wonderful trip @Appleblossom

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Hi @Former-Member thanks so much for asking about today's appointment. That's very kind of you, thankyou💚

I don't want to complain & bring the mood of the thread down...& Yet, I will!

Appointment was kind of horrible.

I can't even begin to know where to start.

My friend/housemate is as unwell as any time I have seen this way.

I can't even really articulate why he isn't getting proper support. I'm not sure I understand.

Lots of different factors - one in might be that he acts differently (perhaps because he feels safe?) In front of professionals, than how I see him here at home.

I have been trying, basically everyday for over a week to have him treated in hospital.

The way he is presenting at the moment - is the same & maybe worse than other times that he had been admitted previously.

His CM is sick & there is no indication of when she will be returning.

The Psychiatrist who saw him this morning at his appointment diagnosed him as psychotic & polite. ( Her words to me)

There may have been a subtle eye roll when I heard this. - well yes, he is polite... To you! I was thinking.

I'm more than sure, that they understand that patient's can change behaviour in front of professionals. I'm not feeling particularly unheard in relation to that diagnosis.

Her next comment to me, was that if I ever feel unsafe I need to call triple O.

I guess this is where it gets really confusing.

What is unsafe? I'm living with a person that has been diagnosed as currently psychotic. Of course I feel unsafe!

He is not physically violent. He can be physically intimidating. He can spend hours talking about all sorts of delusions. He is unwell. I feel unsafe.

If I was to call police (I did twice last week) - they can talk to him & me & try to help, otherwise it's not really a police matter.

If I talk to triage - they tell me to call police. Or they schedule an assessment, like they did for this morning.

The triage team are scheduled to come out over the weekend. What do I do?

From my perspective, my friend needs to be in hospital. His mood & psychotic episodes fluctuate - but I think we've had 2/8 good days.

I can't force anyone to take him to hospital?

I keep telling my friend that if he feels like he needs to go to hospital, then he needs to call triage himself OR let triage know how he feels when they visit.

That leads to

Another problem..... When he is in psychosis - he doesn't have the where with all to express that he needs help. His delusions are telling him that the world is against him & out to get him.

Alternatively, when he is lucid & I ask him 'do you feel like you need to be in hospital.' he replies, ' I don't know?'

Yeh, it's pretty shit! Actually it's horrible, it's making me sick to go through all this stress. Many days I feel like I'm right on the edge of losing my shit completely. I honestly don't know wtf to do.

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I'm recalling another time that happened a few years ago @Former-Member.

He went off his meds ( his choice that I tried very hard to support him thru) after about 6 months here became very unwell. Going missing until after midnight, wandering around the streets aimlessly. Or so overwhelming depressed that he wouldn't get out of bed or respond when I spoke to him.

At that time it took me 3 months to get him support in hospital & it was only by chance. I rang his former CM one day, expressing how unwell he was (like I had in she the weeks previous) She called him to check-in. He was in a very psychotic, delusional state.

Even though I had been trying them for months, this was the first time the CM was witnessing it first hand. She arranged immediately to have him hospitalised.

So, maybe that what's missing this time.

His usual CM has been absent & the staff that have been treating him, have not been able to personally witness the same extreme behaviour that I have been seeing.

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