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Well it's been a hellish few weeks, I have fallen into the rabbit hole and there seems no escape this time. The darkness has come and it thicker than the fires of hell.

Things just don't seem to going right at all and my MH is just getting worse and worse. Not sleeping (afraid to sleep) not eating and not taking my meds. I know this doesn't help but why bother because when I am on them I either feel zone out or that they do nothing anyways. I didn't make it work today, got to the front and was physically sick and froze again. Crawled back into bed where I stayed untill I had an unexpected call.

My 3 main MH professional and I in a conference call, at the end of the call I was given a choice be sectioned or have my ex move back in temporarily to provide around the clock monitoring, this means for at least two weeks of him being here making sure I eat, take my meds and be present for all appointments and no SH. I am not happy about either option but because of teenager trauma in a MH hospital I am taking the ex.

I will not be as active as normal but I will check in. but like tonight, I may just support posts as I am struggling to even type this. So @Snowie @eth @Lee82 @Eden1919 @Purplerain @Lotusgirl amd anyone I missed I will be getting the care I need and will be safe. To some of the newest forum members please forgive me if it takes a bit for me to get back to you.

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can't begin to explain just how much you mean to me. I can't begin to explain just how much I love and care about you. You truly are amazing!!

I am so happy you are beginning to feel a little

proud of yourself. That is wonderful. You deserve to be proud hun. You deserve peace and happiness. You are doing such a great job babe.
@Former-Member

I didn't know you had done EMDR before. So you definitely recommend it? If you were in my shoes would you go and do it after experiencing it before? Do you know if it can bring up suppressed memories? Do they kind of hypnotise you? Is it like a question answer type thing or is it sitting there talking about your trauma whilst they get you to move your eyes from side to side?

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I am ok love just really tried now so I will answer your questions then I am going to try and sleep.

I am waiting to do EDMR at the moment. It's to risky for me do to at the moment because of the flight/fight triggers. Which the safe and sound protocol will ease (start again next Monday) So yes I would recommend it. Mine wasn't conducted correctly in the first place, the eye movements where left out for some reason. So from what I understand and my experience is no they don't ask questions you hold little buzzers in each hand and so eye movements. I won't lie to you it may bring up suppressed memories but it didn't for me. If I could manage a hospital for four weeks then I would be there but it's counter-productive in my case.

As a mum I know four weeks seem like too long but could you imagine coming home and for at least ten years being able to function everyday, to be able to accept cuddles from your boys, get a job, take the boys to a theme park or the movies, I would say take them to the beach but Melbourne beaches 🤮 could you imagine having to ability to stay away from your mother, maybe even telling her how you feel? Sweetie the possibilities are endless and the worse case scenario is you leave the hospital feeling no different then you already do but I doubt that would happen.

Please babe take the opportunity the risk is worth it and the outcome could be life changing. Love you so very much. @Lee82

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Hi @Former-Member @Lee82 ... I see that you were up half the night and all early morning again. 😔🌺

@Lee82 ... you asked me about my experience with EMDR, so I am just getting back to you on that.

I will start by saying that I found it to be a positive experience overall. Although I think when in the midst of it, I would not have said that. I will also add that I had done Exposure Therapy only a year or so prior to doing an extended block of EMDR therapy. So you could say that some of the ice had been broken already, making it a little easier than it would have been otherwise.

I will state that I think it's very important that your therapist is fully trained and knows what they are doing. Ask to see their qualifications and ask about their experience. For me, I also think it made a huge difference that I had been seeing my clinical psychologist for some 4-5 years before undergoing the therapy. During that time we had developed a good understanding and trust with each other. She knew my story and what my reactions were likely to be, as well as how to deal with them when they did occur.

They will not (or should not) commence EMDR until they are confident that you are able to cope with it. They will ensure you know how to breathe properly and deal with panic attacks when they occur. They will talk to you about having a 'safe place' to go to if things become too overwhelming. They will keep emphasising this to you, because its very important you feel safe.

Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) therapy is an interactive psychotherapy technique used to relieve psychological stress. It is proven to be an effective treatment for trauma and PTSD. People who are dealing with traumatic memories and those who have PTSD are thought to benefit the most from EMDR therapy, although it is being used for other MH issues as well, including depression, addictions, EDs, anxiety, etc.

It can be particularly effective for those of us who struggle to talk about their past experiences. This was a big thing for me, because I tend to just clam up and shut down when asked to talk about my trauma. EMDR does not require you to talk much, if at all, about your trauma. In fact your therapist does not even need to know specifically what your trauma is. Although I think it would help them to know, in order to help you through any difficulties as they arise.

It may all seem a little bit "smoke and mirrors", but what happens is that you are encouraged to relive traumatic or triggering experiences in very brief doses while the therapist directs your eye movements. My therapist used a finger to wave back and forwards in front of my eyes. You just need to keep your head still while your eyes follow the target. Some technician tap your knees one side then the other, while others use a button to shift your eye focus from one side to the other. As I said, my therapist mostly used her fingers, but there were times she felt she had 'lost me' and she would then tap my leg instead. Sometimes you may find yourself locked into your bad memories and feel you cannot escape it. Thats when your therapist needs to be very experienced to help you come back to the present.

The theory is that EMDR is effective because recalling distressing events is often less emotionally upsetting when your attention is diverted. It allows you to be exposed to specific memories or thoughts without having an unbearably strong psychological response. Over time, this technique is believed to lessen the emotional impact that distressing memories or thoughts have on you.

Your therapist will ask you to think about one specific distressing event in your life. They like to start with something which is less traumatic to you. So they start easy and deal with that memory before moving onto the harder stuff, once they are confident you can handle the transition to more difficult memories. So you bring a specific event to mind and think about it. The therapist will wave their finger in front of your eyes and you continue to think about your traumatic event. This will happen for some time, and sessions will likely last for an hour or more. They will frequently ask you how you are feeling and what level your distress is at. As you continue to work through each memory with your therapist, the level of distress should gradually reduce. Like it may start as a 10/10, but reduce to a 6/10 by sessions end. As I said, make sure you have a fully qualified and experienced EMDR therapist, because things can go wrong. And they need to know how to bring you safely back to the present if they need to.

In short, and put simply ...EMDR aims to reduce the emotional response to a specific bad memory. Each memory is dealt with separately. It is safe when administered by a qualified and competent technician, and even more so when in a hospital environment as you will be Lee. It is a treatment which is proven to work for most people. I don't think any therapy will ever take away all of our distress @Lee82 , but it definitely takes the edge off. And that in itself can make your life livable once again.

I see you fear that it may make you worse, rather than better. I understand your fear around that. But I think you have to ask yourself "Can it really be much worse than it is right now?" If things get much worse than they are now for you @Lee82 ... my fear is that we won't have you. Yes it's very likely that during therapy and in the immediate aftermath of each session, you may feel absolutely dreadful ... very much heightened emotions and reactions, both physical and emotional. But the great thing for you, is that you will be in hospital and safe. Over time, with continued therapy, you will start to feel much better.

I'm sorry ... my post seems a bit all over the place. I just said things as I thought of them, hence it ended up a little scatterbrained. I hope it all makes sense and gives you a bit more of an idea of what to expect. Different therapists use slightly differing techniques, but the principal is the same. And remember, you have both @Former-Member and myself here (who have both been through EMDR) to help support you throughout this scary journey you're about to undertake. And you know you have the support of a great number of other members here, including @NatureLover @Eve7 @Anastasia and many others. I am feeling very positive for you @Lee82 .

I'm so pleased to hear @Former-Member that you got 10 years peace from your EMDR therapy. Its a shame it was not administered and completed as well as it should have been. Although I have been told that patients often need a top-up dose of therapy over time. So perhaps the 10 years is a good result anyway, regardless of any shortcomings of the actual treatment. I dont thing there were too many practicing EMDR therapists around 10 years or more ago, so you did well to find one at all.

Okay I will leave you with it. I hope you both ended up getting some reasonable sleep eventually. @Former-Member @Lee82 . Happy to talk any time. And if you have any other questions Lee, please ask. I am happy to answer as best I can, based on my own personal experience.

Emelia 🌸

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Ok my love I will go into hospital and do the therapy. Thank you so much for your honesty. I will begin organising things today.
I'm so sorry I didn't message back last night. I eneded up rhrowing up agin and fewling very fizzy.
I'm sorry my love havinf pani I'll be bacj

@Former-Member

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Thank you Mel, now we can look forward to chatting more when we both aren't so easily triggered into panic attacks. I hope you attack has settled by now and that you are resting. I am having a break from undercoating my paint room.

@Emelia8 , I wish I was this talented, your butterfly would have been so much better. )not my work)

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OMG @Emelia8 thank you so so so much for your very detailed post. That has definitely cleared a few things up for me. After speaking with you and @Former-Member I have decided to give it a shot.

panic has settled down now but I am still feeling like an elephant is sitting on my chest. It doesn't help that Mr9 is being a little :pile_of_poo:.
I hope your day is going ok ladies. Sending you both a gentle hug 💗

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Full of feelings for you both after catching up on the last few pages @Former-Member and @Lee82 . Am so pleased to hear you have overcome the monster in recent nights and that you worked on your paint room while your hubby was absent, @Former-Member - yay!

And @Lee82 - I was taken on a rollercoaster, reading that you had to go into hospital for 4 weeks and are terrifed, then that you have now been able to accept going in - you are so brave 🙂

Big 💜💚 for you both 🙂

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Love the little forum note hun. That was so sweet. 🥰

also that painting of the butterfly is beautiful. You putting that up in your paint room?

last time I went into hospital I was allowed to keep my phone so hopefully this time round I can do the same. I don't think I can go 4 weeks without speaking to you hun. I honestly truly don't.
@Former-Member

hows the undercoating going?

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Hey @NatureLover I hope your Thursday has been kind to you.
thank you so much for your message hun. I am still terrified to go into hospital and give this therapy a go. The unknown is freaking me out. Being away from my kids for that long is also worrying. But I think like @Emelia8 said if I don't try this than I am not going to make it another couple years. I can't keep going on like this anymore.

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@Lee82 wrote:

But I think like @Emelia8 said if I don't try this than I am not going to make it another couple years. I can't keep going on like this anymore.


I agree, @Lee82 , you are suffering greatly. If this can help, which it sounds like it can, then it will be worth it.

4 weeks will be a long time to be away from your kids, and I can understand you're still terrified, but that's why you're brave - you're doing it anyway.

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