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Overseas move gone wrong?

Overseas move gone wrong?

I was headhunted for a position overseas in Europe. In Australia sold my house, my car (which was less than 6 months old), gave away or sold all my electrical goods and quit my 20+ year career in Australia. My remaining furniture is in limbo in storage.

I have been overseas barely 3 months and haven't coped at all well with all the language issues, cultural differences, travel, and the challenge of a much more complicated new job in a different industry. Depression and anxiety now overwhelm me daily and I have never been so constantly stressed in my life. Barely holding it together at work and outside work I am totally collapsing. Been on mental health and suicide chat support services such as this one and overseas.

I am trying to choose between continuing on, which seems totally unviable as I have no strategies how to do so and involves committing even more money, or quitting and having to pay back $15 K in relocation costs and returning to Australia to face unemployment and total uncertainty - no idea how I will start again. It does seem like either A or B. There is no Plan C. My previous employer has an employment freeze so will not take me back. Paying the money back will hurt but its potentially worth my health.

But unemployment in Australia will mean I have lots of idle time to negatively dwell on the decision I made as the depression and anxiety won't just be resolved by returning to Australia. I am concerned that my negativity will completely overwhelm me and I won't be able to dig myself back out again.

For 3 months I haven't made a clear decision either way and the prolonged indecision and procrastination is destroying me. Access to mental health options overseas is much more complicated than Australia.

I have read the past forums about the challenges of a new position but I added in a move overseas, and completely undoing my past life into the mix. The combination has been overwhelming.

Interested in how people make decisions when all options seem really bad and when depression and anxiety makes decision making seem like a mammoth challenge. Or how people have lived with the consequences of past actions when my habit is continually revisiting them and not moving on.

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1 hr to go before i either destroy or safe my life.
And i wont know what the result will be until at least 6 months to a year in the future .... after a whole lot of dedicated and intense work to rebuild my entire negative outlook on life and create a host of missing coping strategies. As they say in Australia a "knock down a rebuild job".

At least i booked in today or a 90 minute thai massage to take my mind of the problem for a short period. 2nd time in a week. Only thing i can find that aids recovery or repair.

And all the Australian posters will be sound asleep.

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@Engineer, I'm here, awoke just before in the middle of the night. I think it's probably time for your decision right about now. Looking forward to hearing your news when you post again. Thai massage is a great idea to help relieve the stress and anxiety. Sending very best wishes.

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@Engineer I faced a not dissimilar situation over 40 years ago. I was in Europe and had just over 3 years of my contract remaining. I chose to struggle on but in hindsight it was the wrong decision. I ended up being hospitalised by the police. Although I spoke the local language I didn't have the specialised vocabulary for psychiatric hospital. It was 4 months in the clinique.
I only wish I had had the wisdom to return home. I do know that our embassy in that country helped me as much as they could. I'm grateful for their kindness.
If I'd come home I would not have ended up irrevocably destroying my career. Only you know the answer to this dilemma you're facing.

My thoughts are with you as I pray you find the courage to make the best decision for you.

Hugzzz 🎶

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hello @Engineer

I have read your original post and responses.

I am just wondering if anyone has ever taught you diaphragm breathing. As simple as that might sound it works miracles for extreme anxiety. Is very easy to do. In fact when we sleep our body does it naturally.

You were very keen to go, organised yourself, sold up, arrived.

what happened to change the excitement to anxiety? No need to respond if dont want to.

You mentioned that your exercise dropped off and then lethargy, not sleeping properly, depression.

These are all symptoms I have experienced at various stages in my life.

I currently have chronic, clinical depression and anxiety.

Forcing myself outside to walk turns everything around emotion wise for me.

when i stop exercise domino effect of the above

What i am thinking is - be honest with your employer - take off as mch time as they will give - negotiable obviously they need to look after their interests.

ask them for some assistance with conversational language learning - should not have to be a cost for you. learn the basics enough to get by

so 1 sort out diaphram breathing

2 start walking

3 gp? get check up

4 watch diet, spicy foods, caffeine

5 keep off all electronic devices in evening- get as much sleep as possible- aids in recovery from depression

6 how are those language lessons? practice talking to locals. neighbours said will help

check in how are you feeling now?

basically break it all down into small steps, when successful next step

if at end of timeframe allowed by employer no change, then leave. you have back up plan

i just think that moving forward by being honest with your employer whatever the outcome you will not have guilt or low esteem trips in the future. they might be willing to give you a reference because of your honesty.

move back with mum, have some quality time with mum - same steps as above, except language

at least you will have tried, given it your best shot.

good luck

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Thinking of you @Engineer. Hugzzz 💕

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Sorry everyone. I have deleted half of this post several times. There is so much I could write here but at the end of the day its all has been said over and over and over - to family, to other expats, to counsellors, to work colleagues, etc for 3 months.

I STILL didn't quit. I talked about it in non comittal terms but didn't stick a concrete outcome.

My boss made a few comments that I won't share here.

This morning I woke up feeling like a total complete idiot. The path I am on is totally completely unsustainable.

By the afternoon the anxiety was back and by the time I got to apartment I was back in the same cycle of hyperventilating and being giddy, I am sitting here alone on a single chair in an empty 8 m by 6 m room wondering how the hell did I let my life end up like this?

Appointment with HR Manager at 1 pm tomorrow to talk about it AGAIN and based on my past history - I will still leave myself in this horrendous state.

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I am beyond breaking point tonight.

Suicide support line not manned here.

My neighbors are not available. No expats I can call. My family are all asleep.

Australian support websites all down (SANE) as its middle of the night there or completely geoblocked to me ILifelife, beyondblue, menshealthline).

I am going to lie here and wait for this to pass as my only safe option available.

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@Engineer keep holding on mate - waiting for it to pass, because it can and will pass.

It sounds like you already know that you need to quit for your own safety - why not write it down on a piece of paper and pass that to HR as soon as you see them? "I need quit for my health and safety but am having trouble, can you please help me to do so?" in whatever language. That way you don't need to verbally say it. You can write down whatever you need them to know, whatever you need them to help with.

Good luck for tomorrow.

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It is Marchhare here, one of the forum moderators. I can understand your anxiety at the moment especillay as you have no supports at the moment. Lying and waiting for your anxiey to pass sounds like a good idea. Remember you have a lot of support here on the forum and others will rally round. Perhaps try and concentrate on some relaxation breathing techniques for you..

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Thanks @

The local suicide line came back available for 10 minutes.

And then my family are awake now. I am talking to them. I will get through until tomorrow.

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