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The array of problems

The array of problems

Well hi there everybody. I was just looking for people who may be able to help with some tricky stuff im faced with. -here's the life I got... -there's the life I want... and there is a whole lot of technical, physical, mental or emotional issues between the two.

I have struggled with mental problems for a very long time. And I think the gravity of the story and reality of my situation. Induces shock and trauma. And has to sink in over again each day. -But there is apart of me. That weighs things up and desires a better life and to help myself.

Now, if I could...I'd magically employ myself in a good career. And change everything around. But I can't! -so im more or less stuck with very limited options. Reoccurring problems. In the same circumstances. -which gets me down and becomes tiring...

And im tired of feeling like I do.

Im aware of what they say helps and what doesn't. -its just really hard to put into place and follow through with everything.

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@eudemonism

If I get you right I see it this way:

The human brain has this section dedicated to self-preservation that is all but automatic. A possible threat appears and that "helper" looks for the best match it knows and takes off running down that path screaming. The paths it can choose from are those learned in earlier times - anything from your birth (and what parents did) up to what was done yesterday. But more likely strongly biased towards younger years.

Sadly not all the paths that helper part of the brain knows are relevant (or even related) to what is happening today. The more a path is used, the greater chance it has of being chosen, even if it makes no logical sense. This, of course, can see us feeling pretty lost in the way we react.

The helper wants to help and makes the best choice it can but if the options it has are trapped in the mind of a child (or lizard) then the chances are high that in reality, the actions it sets up are not really useful for today's issue.

The trick is to not fight the helper. We commonly fight the helper with negative self-talk (sneaks hand up) and that is impossible (or Dumb) as the helper is us. As smart as playing Chess against yourself and wondering whey you always lose - think on it till that makes sense.

The AA trick of handing problems that are too large off to God (Life) is a way of asking that helper to find another way. We could equally acknowledge that helper by saying "thanks for the assistance, but right now we need a new and better way; can you help me find that?". That takes us from trying to micromanage ourselves (and the world around us) to allowing everything and everyone to find the way that works best - remember that life (God, universe...) is the best balancer of things as it can comprehend the big picture we cannot contain in our puny noggins.

The best boss is the one who sets the direction and outcomes required and trusts that his staff will do their best when allowed to handle each problem in the way they flow best. I have seen staff solve problems in the oddest of ways that in theory are the wrong thing to do BUT the problem got solved as the intent was pure and honest so it worked out well.

You seem (like me and I think many others at this time) to be caught in this balance of freedom vs responsibility vs the old rigid rules. You can't control what other's do and feel so all you can do is what you need - so long as that intends no harm to yourself or others. Morality is a personal thing and the most moral of people hold themselves very true to their values. To break their own code is to do themselves harm, even if in the short them it seems to deliver a win. That is a hard one to learn for many who choose to never look past their nose.

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In one ear and out the other ... kind of know all this stuff already ... and its ironic that I'm hearing it all again ...

I get what your saying and I'm not disrespecting you or making fun of you. -but the thing is... I can't see it helping change my life or my future. -I know what you're saying and it all makes sense. And I knew it was what you're talking about earlier on in the picture (what you're saying is very correct and true)

I'm pretty much tired of being stuck in this position. And stuck in this mind set. And not really being able to help myself. And Basically watching my life and my future rot away. -I've weighed up all the possibilities and opportunities. And have basically ruled everything out. Apart from sitting here in this unit. And going through the daily motions. And more or less waiting until I fall off the perch.

It's not living... it's more like slowly dying...

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I mean far out! If things had of worked out differently...

What you are talking about is what has been happening to my mind (like many others). And its a cruel thing to have happen and be merciless toward it. As if it were best and right. -I have countless amounts of good opportunities in front of me. And have had chance after chance with life changing opportunities. And Instead of making something of them and turning them into a good thing. -I more or less let it slip through my fingers, self sabotaged (caution) or destroyed it. Because I wasn't mentally equipped for the situations I was faced with. And it usually turned into a black mark against my name. And a new updated version of me. With bigger and better tarnishing and blemishes then ever before. -and what you said about "from young childhood up until yesterday." Effecting the way we react. -is so true!

I want to be...... or I am going to be..... ???



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Things are definitely changing. That's for sure.
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Yea... just thinking... I've probably developed mechanisms as a young child. That are now in full swing as adult. And it probably makes me do things the same old way and hope I'll get the same old result. Which some how. In some way, shape or form. Gives me what I need and want. And I've found myself being faced with isolation. While I'm desiring human interaction and responses and reactions. And it went bad when things went wrong.

I think about doing fun stuff all the time. Or have ideas about doing this or that for myself. (A wide variety of stuff.) And I don't get around to half of it.

Instead I try to create reactions from other people with my words either verbal or written. Or stuff that I can claim as my own work. And in return. Get what I need.

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Yes @eudemonism

Your very last post is exactly what we tend to do and then we find ways to say that things not getting better are not our fault and do the whole angry thing. Life can suck but we don't have to do shitty things to ourselves. Working that bit out is the beginning of changing it.

I would love to meet a new lady (well probably a bit old seeing I am 47 LOL) but don't take every opportunity to be social. It took me over a year to get myself off to a dance class again. Then I have avoided invites that I could have gone along with and had a nice time. All because I have had some less than lovely outcomes and want to avoid it happening again. Weill thanks, Mr. Brain but that isn't a useful thing to do as avoiding invites will avoid possible rejection. However, it will also ensure I never met anyone I don't already know who might just think I am cool. Great plan!

I notice that you speak very generally, is there a specific situation you could detail for us as that might help us to round-table some ideas (I know others are reading this thread). Maybe one will spark with you and help you do something different (and scary) like me getting back into dancing?

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You also generalize as if there is some who do. And some who don't have. Normal day to day. Or life as a complete picture (problems) which creates standardization. And also like it's up too the individual to fix or help themselves through. When we have a system that these things are supposed to be solved through. Is that a good point?

It's like saying... When everything we've done fails. We'll find someone or something to blame and place all the responsibility back on the person. Who bye this point is heavily medicated? And inthe process a team if individuals make good money out of it.

I've thought about it like this before. Their (the system) is trying to create walking and talking examples of the message they are pushing onto the bigger picture of society. And it just don't work. -the other day I thought. It's more or less a cult and a religion... (this was in an attempt to understand what they've done.

We might as well have a group called rhe medicated dance crew... laugh???

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My problems are simple. -there is not the genuine help and care I need. Too manifest my situation into something that is seen as acceptable and approved of. Bye all whom it may concern. -I know exactly what I'm wanting and trying to do... and know very well what my heart desires... and I'm taking steps toward achieving it everyday...

And all in all. Life is pretty good. But it's not without complications or glitches. (I got a past like all of us.....) a past that ain't quite right) again... like all of us)

Most mornings I wake up. In a state of deep and dark depression. And it's very difficult for me to clarify within myself. And find the motivation. And clarity within my mind. Too follow through with achieving the things I want toodo. Which I know will help me. And be what's best for me and my future. And after it has happened. Hundreds upon thousands of times. -I begin getting frustrated and annoyed. -because I've probably reached out for help an equal amount of times. -and it makes me think. That something is wrong. Laugh???

It's hard to turn the complete picture into a positive some days...

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@eudemonism

Oh, I get you. Something is wrong. I came to Sane Forums here because my mornings were starting to get the way you describe too. Not a nice, or good, tunnel to look into. Everyone does that to some degree. We are labeled MI because we do it too much (as judged because we are unhappy too much and even become non-functional).

I also know how absurd it seems when people simply say things like "buck" up or "turn that frown into a smile" so I try not to do that. Instead, I try to offer a workable path, one that has kept me at least close to the rails all my life. I too have invested time into looking for something or someone else to 'save' me. Sadly the reality is that being saved is a personal thing.

It is possible to give people a placebo or known effective medicine and the results are not a foregone conclusion. This says that while medicines (and placebos) do have their place, it is something in the individual that decides what healing takes place.

I know a few Born Again Christian types who are lovely people (and I have known the opposite too so this is not an advert) and what I see in common with each of them is that they have put all their faith in the Jesus thing. The big J doesn't wander through their houses at night fixing their problems, like leaky taps, but their belief in that force that can help them deal with what they otherwise would feel they couldn't is something you can't sniff at,

I am an atheist so the Jesus thing is not a placebo that works on me (I sometimes wish it would) but it clearly does for those who personify themselves as having a savior aspect. What I have tried presenting is a way that may help you find that savior aspect in yourself to improve the sense of control you have in your life.

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I'm going to start managing my MI better. I been feeling like all I can do is tread water and wait until help arrives. For far to long. -I been suffering from some terrible stuff for years now. And it's not about to magically go away.

I want to be able to help myself. And I want a better life. And I'm going to listen to all the advice the professionals are telling me.

I'm tired of dealing with everything that's going on. I'm exhausted im fatigued. There don't seem to be many good days no more. But hey. Things are cooling down seasons are changing. It's a hectic time of year. I suffer from a debilitating illness. I'm medicated on heavy stuff. I'm battling addictions. I got all sorts of stuff going on. Each day is a battle.
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