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The array of problems

The array of problems

Well hi there everybody. I was just looking for people who may be able to help with some tricky stuff im faced with. -here's the life I got... -there's the life I want... and there is a whole lot of technical, physical, mental or emotional issues between the two.

I have struggled with mental problems for a very long time. And I think the gravity of the story and reality of my situation. Induces shock and trauma. And has to sink in over again each day. -But there is apart of me. That weighs things up and desires a better life and to help myself.

Now, if I could...I'd magically employ myself in a good career. And change everything around. But I can't! -so im more or less stuck with very limited options. Reoccurring problems. In the same circumstances. -which gets me down and becomes tiring...

And im tired of feeling like I do.

Im aware of what they say helps and what doesn't. -its just really hard to put into place and follow through with everything.

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I'd so like to say I have no idea what you mean and be able to show you how wrong you are but that very thing is the reason I lost interest in Psych as a career. Sure, some practitioners do set out to care, and even manage to continue to, but I can't help but feel that at least in the state system there is something very broken.

Without opening a can of political worms I do think that it is in the nature of socialist thinking to actually hate life itself (Ayn Rand & Objectivism if you care to fact check me) so all those seemingly lovely Govt programs (of which this site may well be one) attract people who can't see past their own blinding collectivist hate and it transfers to their patients which lead to all those ugly outcomes.

As for the private sector, some will be great but even there, there really is no perfect system to follow so every situation is in effect seat of the pants both for therapist and patient. Makes a case for stapling the patient to the table but of course, if the patient isn't 'engaged' in creating their own cure then we are back where we were.

Can you think of a way in which if you were the perfect therapist what 'cure' you would create to help your patient?

I really can't agree with your take on illicit drugs & acky-hic tho as in my experience in watching people use them I have yet to see a useful outcome (possible exception being the careful use of medical cannabis).

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Hey look! @Fiz I'm no better or worse then any of them. And yes I have created a cure for myself which unfortunately didn't suite the broken system. -and they came at me with the same old perspective of reinforcing there is something wrong and medication is the answer with a very stand off approach. Which was based on 2% of the information. About my mental condition. And offered no other forms of help which I'd classify as health care.

Did you understand that?

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The system is mental ill... and I honestly don't think they know what they are messing with. And it's unfortunate that the drugs they are allocating to people along with the diagnoses. Effect 100% of people's existences. In a negative way... which they are not taking responsibility for... -the list of side effects (long term and short...) for any physciatric drugs. Are essentially fatal... and hugely detrimental. But they can sit there and paint a picture of what's wrong with the patient... and give them hoops to jump through... which is based upon 2% of the patients mental condition. And then stand back with their hands In the air and say you've sabotaged yourself. There's nothing we can do too help you. (After they classify the patient as well managed)

How do you manage another human being?


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Hi @eudemonism

I don't know the details of your situation but I hear what you say and how you feel. Yes, I was definitely saying before that I get that the system is broken and so will fail at east as much as it wins which is sad. I am having to learn in myself that a failing system (the general lack of manners in the wide world) can be acknowledged as existing but if I get myself too caught up in worrying about that I stop building happiness in my own life. The only person I can manage is myself.

I am having to learn in myself that a failing system (the general lack of manners in the wide world) can be acknowledged as existing but if I get myself too caught up in worrying about that I stop building happiness in my own life. The only person I can manage is myself.

Be thankful that the system is there and tries but do what you know works for you as at bedtime you sleep with yourself.

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Yea I'm hearing ya. I do my best. And I try my hardest. And I'm failing at more things I do then succeeding. So it gives me plenty to work on. And modify with myself. Which is all I have control over. (Life is a journey that I can only describe as a very iratic continuum of energy)

It is hard to work out the meaning of life. When things are always changing. And each day. There are new problems on the plate. (Problems that I've consumed thousands of times before)

The system is very effective. But it's also very mesy. And the thing with me is... - yearn and desire to eliminate suffering. And create a comfortable, healthy and happy life for myself. But unfortunately... the problems are within my mind. And narrate themselves from the reality of life.

I like how you place emphasis on only being in control of yourself (I wonder if that comes with guidelines)

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I know how you feel on that one too. Today has actually been a bit of a wake-up call on that one actually.

I once did a web-based course thingee (from here in Oz) that addressed how we think (CBT): things like "everyone hates me" which is not actually true if you have at least one person who isn't trying to run you over (or something like that LOL). Was free and well worth doing.

Suffering is the core of Buddha's journey of discovery and so bang on for us. Us crazies spend more time with our sufferings that the safely sane (and boring). That means we are more likely to come up with something really cool like art or a portable screen called an iPad. Sadly it also means we are more likely to obsess over our bed of nails. Bogus.

Here is my take on the philosophies of selfishness:

Do what you will so long as you intend no harm, firstly to yourself and then any other.

So the rules are really only in your own morality (which hopefully includes not eating your neighbor as that puts you in prison which is most likely a place of suffering) and walking the path "life" put you here for with pride. The answer to that is far simpler than most believe as the meaning of life is life itself. The real question is what should I do to live a good life, be happy! Not drunk happy but joyful.

It means learning to avoid what I call Dumb: being so self-obsessed that you damage your own self- interest. That can be as simple as the wife who refuses to see Die Hard and then wonders why hubby won't go see 50 Shades of Grey. If wife was happy to go along and enjoy at least time with hubby he would happy do the same with her. Smart self-interest. Sure a bit more work at the start but when life is happy then you are winning.

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Of course, I am not always good at that as I can get stuck on myself as I try to solve something (that others probably would think silly but it bothers me). When that happens I try to acknowledge that feeling and use the AA rule of asking life (or God) for help in finding the new way and simply settle in the feeling. I then stay open for what comes along. Of course, that is essentially what Buddha, Lau Tzu, and even Jesus said.

William Glasser's core book, the one that used to be called Control Theory put this stuff pretty well I think. Many therapists hated him but the sales gurus loved him. Maybe that tells us something 😉

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Yea I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. (Like I'm sure you are for me)

If politics says anything about how the average person feels. I think it's fair to say. Everyone is in a pretty bad way. -and I think it's also fair to say. That whoever is in their right mind. Knows that it's true.


Does that solve the problem or help though? ...no!!! Not really...

The average person probably feels bound bye oppression. And has become really lost, confused and disoriented in the process...

One thing that has helped me. And empowered me. And liberated me. And come close to setting me free. Is freedom of speech. And being able to have a personal opinion. That is backed up bye my most powerful right as a human being. -and it means I can keep track of things, keep record, leave a legacy and find people whom are on common ground. And again... no!!! It don't solve anything. But it does give me a meaning and a purpose. And is the closest thing that is free from oppression......

My life and my existence. As anybody else's. Comes down to what I need. And I have an inbuilt defense mechanism. Which is perhaps of the spiritual realm. Which is in overdrive.

Too be happy, healthy, comfortable, at peace and to be lived is the closest thing to heaven. There will ever be... and to feel like you are desperately trying to obtain these things. But are only loosing your sanity in the process. And having to totally disregard your internal voice. Is a very dubious state of affairs. (Which could be called an interal battle. Or maybe an eternal battle) andi think I've realized this...

And I have passed the point of no return. And ran out of despair too feed myself. Only to work out. That salvation can only come from within. (everything else remains the same)

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Fear is my greatest enemy. And unfortunately I know exactly what to be afraid of. And my mind... uses it against me...

"For if we are besides ourselves, it is for God; or if we are sound of mind, it is for you."

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Choices always come with mitigated circumstances. And it is probably a great tool to use against people from a position of authority, power and influence.

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I speculate it comes with its own personalized and customized element of an individual being deluded bye their own best Interests. And doing what they have too do. So they can survive. And the repercussions maybe of no concern too them whatsoever.

Do you think that's justified?

Nor would it be when it's served it's purpose.
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