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Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

I have multiple mental illnesses including Bipolar 2, cptsd, OCD, social anxiety. I’m also neurodivergent, ADHD and ASD. I already have tons of labels and a lot going on. I’m getting assessed for an ED on Monday during my psych appointment, I reckon I meet criteria so I am anticipating another diagnosis. I know it explains my how I’ve been feeling but it’s another label, I hate feeling so broken and feeling like I’m complicated. I know my disordered eating habits are adversely affecting my mental and physical health, I’ve just been in denial for so long and would also get defensive when people commented on my eating habits or asked about them.

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@creative_writer

I wonder if there is a way you can get the accommodations or help you need at uni without telling the tutors exactly what is going on for you?

I did this in high school :). The school counsellor was able to give me the ability to say to a teacher "I'm sorry, I can't do that. If you need to check with someone, please speak to the school counsellor to confirm their support for it." I also had to tell some (impacted) teachers that I would be absent from a specific class-time every week/fortnight -- but I didn't have to tell them why I was absent, just that it was "approved" and the school needed them to also agree/acknowledge it.

It can be a bit harder when specific accommodations are required - but this is where your doctors/psych come in to help! A month ago I emailed my current studies coordinator to give feedback on how difficult a spontaneous-language-conversation assessment had been (which I realised afterward the assessment was due to undiagnosed autism which I'm currently being assessed for). This was a bit harder for me because I didn't have any "diagnosis" yet, but thankfully it's not something personally sensitive to me - so I can be an open book with someone I've never met. I think this actually helped me in the subsequent assessment because whilst I had never mentioned having challenges 'picking up or communicating perceptions of affect/tone' -- it's something I have consistently been marked down for in this language study in the past (which I didn't know until I looked back on my assessments from over 10 years ago!) because I never realised I "wasn't explaining the tone" of another person's conversation-interpretation. However when I totally missed explaining this in my assessment last month, they explictly told me and asked if I would be able to explain to them the "tone" and through conversation i was able to understand what they meant by the term "tone" lol. So they added my extra explanation into the assessment and I passed it. 🙂

When it comes to MH and suicidality it can be a lot harder though, I know. But believe it or not, I've had that experience too! But in work, not studies. I had a phase of super-repetitive strong SI that unfortunately coincided with me also being asked to work on scoping/investigating reporting on health risk-screening measures - which included suicide risk screenings. Often it wouldn't have been a problem for me, because I am passionate about identifying suicide risk in order to for people to get help/support. But where I was at the time -- trying to seek support and being told no affordable supports existed -- it was making my own SI worse, so having to do work on reports to identify SI risk for the very organisation that has also told me that they can't provide me any supports for my chronic and active SI -- that was super triggering. But I had a boss I really trusted, and she didn't know what my MH challenges were, but she knew I had struggles. So I just asked her "can you please not assign me any work related to suicide risk assessments currently?" and she said agreed without further question. 🙂

Now, of course, I had a lot of trust with her! But if I didn't, my tactic would have been to ask my GP to write a letter to ask for me to not be assigned (more broadly) "the piece of work on health risk assessments" and instead to be assigned one of the many other pieces of work also a priority for the team. This is a less-threatening approach for me.

How does this relate to your situation?

It's ok to ask your doctor/psych to write a letter requesting (as ideas) :

a) self-paced study for that module (whichever ones trigger you)

b) extra time to complete those modules

c) understanding that you may need to leave the classroom unexpectedly

d) using headphones/earplugs/sunglasses/etc to reduce any sensory overwhelm that also may not help (if applicable)

It's also OK to talk to the university's student support team / counsellors to let them know that you have external supports but need an internal of university advocate for your adjustment needs.

"SA content triggers me"

It could also mean that a close friend or family member has been impacted by it, and coping with the pain you feel on their behalf if something you are working through. 😉

I never assume it's easy for my family or friends who are aware of my CSA past to know that it happened.

"Maybe forming friendships is more about finding the people I gel well with."

Yes! My heart leapt at this. 🙂 I agree in full. I have realised all the friends I like spending time with 1:1 are either:

a) AuDHD (or suspected)

b) Open to talking/reflecting about their MH experiences

As a teenager I felt such disconnect because b) did not (yet) apply to most of them, and I guess AuDHD isn't that common in the population (even undiagnosed - it's what, 5% estimated?). But I did find 2 good friends at school that I chose to keep in close contact with, and guess what? They both have had MH challenges & AuDHD traits lol.

Find your tribe.

"I know I will need to do it during sessions when I have my own clients."

Does it make it any easier when you can ask a person on how it affects them or the more relational "peer-style" shared-experience connections?

The reason I ask is... I know for myself it can be triggering listening to a lecture about MH that I have a lived experience of because of how strongly it resonated with me and my own pains. But I do not experience this when I am speaking to someone 1:1 where I can talk to them and explore how they feel - somehow talking about it (even if its about THEIR feelings) is regulating to me!

I would love to know what an "Iftar" is and what that looks like for you 🙂 I can guess it is related to your beliefs, but it's not a term I am familiar with yet 🙂
(PS - one of my Year 11/12 subjects I chose was Religion Studies because I love learning about different people's beliefs!)

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

@AlwaysMyself my friend was able to get accomodation without going into detail of medical condition. I might try to get accomodations if I can provide minimal information.

It’s a bit tricky with assignment. One of my assignments is very heavy in triggering content (I mean like half of the assignment is triggering). I want to cry. I don’t feel like I have much options. Everyone has their same assignment where the case studies are already chosen for us. It’s crazy how we’re doing a MH course and the dominant trauma is SA. I don’t feel like they provide much support, it’s more like you just have to suck it up and deal with it. My friend thought it wasn’t fair on me and was willing to give the course people feedback. SA is very prevalent and I may not be the only one in the course who experienced it.

I feel like relationships can get pathologised when you don’t have the people in your life. I can form healthy friendships and have no issues. I don’t experience anxiety with them but I do generally experience a lot of anxiety around people I don’t know well or trust. I probably have attachment stuff and me being distant from parents may be a coping strategy. Though my mum may have relationship issues and it felt easy to latch on having “relationship issues” because I am my mother’s daughter. It just might not be the reality for me. My relationships are different to my mum’s.

I have spoken to other trauma survivors and managed. It also depends on how I am doing at that moment in time. I would find it harder working with perpetrators and I don’t think I would work at CASA. I think in a different setting it would be manageable because not every client would have experienced SA. I do agree it’s a bit different when you’re speaking to someone as opposed to learning.

Iftar is the evening meal after fasting. I haven’t been able to fast this Ramadan due to medical reasons. I get migraines when I don’t eat or drink anything for long periods. Maybe my ED is still taking a toil on my body, but I also have a naturally tendency of getting weak with low blood sugar levels. Maybe one day

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@AlwaysMyself I honestly feel like autistic people get pathologised so much. I feel like we are more vulnerable to experiencing SI.

Lived experiences is so powerful. I have someone in my course who is a peer support worker and is going in the mental health field as a clinician. We need more clinicians with lived experience

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

I understand where you are coming from here, hmmm, maybe you could say, "I've noticed that this content creates some discomfort for me and I am wondering if you can recommend any ways to navigate regulation whilst in class?" Would that feel a bit more generalised? Something that I have noticed about my tutors is that they are always acknowledging that pretty much every person coming into this line of work has lived experience. So you never have to share anything you don't want to, but also know that they are unlikely to be taken aback by people feeling how you are - it's a very common part of the process and taking care of you/asking for support is so important so that you feel okay. @creative_writer 💛

Have you been able to talk about this with your psychologist?

That's a great reflection - finding people you gel with is key. And I think it's definitely more soul-nourishing to have quality over quantity in our friendships.

Breathing sounds like a really great strategy - maybe some inner-child self-soothing too?

And you are absolutely allowed to set that boundary and only work with people who you feel okay to support.

Ah, what did you eat? 🤩

Thank you. How has today been for you? 🥰

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

@AuntGlow it is true everyone has some form of lived experience even if they don’t have a mental illness. I do wish there was less shame around talking about mental health for mental health clinicians.

I was going to raise it up with my psych tomorrow. It’s probably been my biggest trigger.

I feel like it’s often about finding your people. It also feels like a massive weight has been lifted because I don’t have to hold the same beliefs about relationships are my parents. My beliefs were at the core different, but it’s become more apparent. I feel like my parents are both insecurely attached. I probably am too, but I don’t feel insecurity in my friendships.

I had chicken, rice and salad.

It’s been hard because I’m currently still feeling quite triggered. I’m just doing the best I can to cope. How are you?

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

Feeling quite triggered today. It hurts so much

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I’m having a somatic flashback

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

Hello lovely - here with you. How can we bring some safety into the body by using some somatic strategies?

Can we explore shaking, dancing, even some jumping jacks? Or if that feels too much, is a warm shower possible? @creative_writer 💛

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

@AuntGlow I’m trying to breathe. It just feels so intense feeling trauma in areas of my body I don’t want to feel. Feelings of shame feel so intense. I know I didn’t ask for it but I don’t know why I feel so ashamed.

I naturally move and shake myself a lot. Stimming can be calming. It’s probably my AuDHD brain trying to regulate itself

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

I hear you and these feelings can be so big in the body, can't they? @creative_writer 💛

You are doing an amazing job of articulating what is going on for you.

What does this shame need right now to feel held?

It sounds like your body has an intuitive way of regulating you through stimming. 🥰

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