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Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

I have multiple mental illnesses including Bipolar 2, cptsd, OCD, social anxiety. I’m also neurodivergent, ADHD and ASD. I already have tons of labels and a lot going on. I’m getting assessed for an ED on Monday during my psych appointment, I reckon I meet criteria so I am anticipating another diagnosis. I know it explains my how I’ve been feeling but it’s another label, I hate feeling so broken and feeling like I’m complicated. I know my disordered eating habits are adversely affecting my mental and physical health, I’ve just been in denial for so long and would also get defensive when people commented on my eating habits or asked about them.

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@wonderingalice1 it’s certainly been rough. I wish it was easier to not get lost in the pain. I wish it was easier to feel worthy despite everything I’ve been through. I struggle to forgive myself what I’ve done and what I couldn’t do (even in situations where I had no control)

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Does your pdoc make sure to leave time to calm-down and re-regulate before the end of the session @creative_writer ? Or do they end it pretty abruptly? 🤔

My pdoc from many many moons ago didnt. They would just say "ok, time to finish now" or sometimes if we had just finished explaining something "5 minutes left" and then maybe "heres your script repeat" or "what are you planning the rest of the day/week?"

Absolutely no check-in with what emotions may be raging inside.

I compare that to my current counsellor (who has so much experience working with trauma) who the one time we did talk about trauma she intentionally asked me to check how i felt before leaving (even though we were overtime; luckily she didnt have anyone else after) and to sit for a further 5min with her to process it rather than shut it down like i have learned to.

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@AlwaysMyself he didn’t check in, though he did ask about my psych sessions. I told him I was going to see my psych on Tuesday. I don’t think I processed how painful the session was until afterwards. What I told him was still contained, I mostly spoke about the thoughts that have been coming up for me rather than what happened.

I’ve had more conversations about trauma with my psych. I don’t think I’ve ever opened up this to my pdoc before. My thoughts just felt too heavy, it came out.

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Often when I talk about how a time has been or a past event, I do it in a very emotionally-detached way. It’s “recounting” (which to be honestly, probably saves me from “emotionally reliving” pain - for better and for worse!). So often I would be in a type of “shield up” mode emotionally whilst talking about something, and its not until my cognitive brain disengages (ie. after winding down post-session with my pdoc in the past) that I actually feel and realise that there are emotions there underneath that have been stirred up.

Not sure if that is similar to what you experienced post-pdoc? Totally OK if not, just wondering! 🙂

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@AlwaysMyself I think I looked pretty upset during the session. I wasn’t crying, but probably not far from it. I find it really hard to cry during appointments. The session was more focused on thoughts and emotions from the trauma as opposed to reliving and explaining what happened. It was focused more on how it affected me in the present day. I reckon it’s easier for me to disconnect from recounting events. I still felt more overwhelmed afterwards because it took me a while to process what we discussed. The more I talk about it, the more I realise “I am sinful”, “I am contaminated” type of thoughts keep me stuck. I just hope the new psych is able to help me process

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I’m sorry the pdoc didn’t take the time before the end of the session to regulate and process the feelings - and even more so when it would be reasonably visible to see too! @creative_writer 😓. I mean, even my pdoc should have known to just because of the content we were talking about even if I wasn’t externally showing dysregulation.

Once I left my counsellor and I was still in tears - but that was OK because we discussed what I was planning to do after leaving her to make sure I could continue to seek support until I felt less overwhelmed and was safer.

I wonder if it might be worthwhile emailing the pdoc to suggest in future he plans in 10min before the end of the session for an emotional-processing non-cognitive time?

I find it helpful to focus on how it impacts my present-day too 😊. Although sometimes its not always obvious in how it might play out, so often we stumble onto trauma topics “in reverse” by starting with how I experience life and why I do or don’t feel/perceive things a certain way, and reflecting on where that has come from - e.g. was it modelled to me? did I have an experience that made me feel/think that I couldn’t ask for help or tell someone I was scared?

And it’s not always trauma behind it — often for me it’s also that both my parents are super self-reliant and don’t ask others for help. So whilst they would help if I asked - I never felt that asking was what I was meant to do. I just thought I was meant to do it all myself and “not complain” about things.

Does being aware of the thoughts keeping you stuck help you to resist against listening/believing the thoughts? 🤔

(For me it does, but I don’t have OCD, so I don’t know how/what helps in your situation, hence I am curious).

Understanding that some of my “emotional barriers” to things are actually sensory-based is helping me realise what is going on so I can then make a cognitive choice on how to respond or modify things or even explain to others why “its not for me”.

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@AlwaysMyself I can raise it up with my pdoc next time. I don’t think he realised that I needed him to check in. Pdoc trainings tends to have a stronger medical focus instead of therapy.

I was modelled to suppress my emotions and I became independent as a consequence. I was shamed for expressing emotions and that caused me to cope by disassociating.

I am aware of the thoughts and know they’re not logical but it’s still very hard to sit with them because the I get intrusive thoughts pretty frequently over the course of the day. I try not to think but it doesn’t work. It’s not that I want to think but it’s just that I can’t stop thinking.

It also doesn’t help that I get somatic flashbacks often. I know focusing on other sensory input can help like sensory toys and five sense grounding. I just can’t do body based mindful exercises because I get panicky and experience significant discomfort.

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@creative_writer wrote:
Im aware of the thoughts and know they’re not logical but it’s still very hard to sit with them because the I get intrusive thoughts pretty frequently over the course of the day. I try not to think but it doesn’t work. It’s not that I want to think but it’s just that I can’t stop thinking.

This I relate to with regard to my SI thoughts! I can try not to think about them or to just sit with it or to “acknowledge and let be” to try to not let it get me distressed or caught up in it, but it doesn’t make the thoughts go away!

Sounds like “external meditation” (or grounding) rather than internal medication/grounding is a better fit for you 😊. And this makes sense to me.

What are your favourite sensory calming/stimming/fidgeting things? 😊

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@AlwaysMyself I find it hard to sit with emotions because it can get overwhelming and feels uncomfortable. I know it’s a skill. I learnt to not express emotions and heavy emotions were wrong. Unlearning is hard when you’re an adult.

I prefer external meditation because it feels safer. Internal meditation can be hard for some of us who have experienced past trauma. The body remembers more than we may realise. I don’t always have language, I feel a lot in my body.

I like those soft stretchy noodles, I need to get another ring. My ring slid off my finger and went into the seat during a flight. They tore the whole seat apart and couldn’t find it. I probably should get a new one, some stims aren’t so healthy. My sister also has a squishy nice smelling toy, it feels so good.

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Oh, soft stretching noodle ring @creative_writer - sounds like a good idea to replace it 😃. Hopefully they’re not expensive?

My ADHD friends love NeeDoh products, so I bought an advent calendar for our group by NeeDoh lol. But some of the squishies were a bit … too soft? Especially if they have glitter inside 😬😖. but my friend was apologetic for the glitter leakage on the fabric.

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