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Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

I have multiple mental illnesses including Bipolar 2, cptsd, OCD, social anxiety. I’m also neurodivergent, ADHD and ASD. I already have tons of labels and a lot going on. I’m getting assessed for an ED on Monday during my psych appointment, I reckon I meet criteria so I am anticipating another diagnosis. I know it explains my how I’ve been feeling but it’s another label, I hate feeling so broken and feeling like I’m complicated. I know my disordered eating habits are adversely affecting my mental and physical health, I’ve just been in denial for so long and would also get defensive when people commented on my eating habits or asked about them.

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@creative_writer

Reading one of your posts yesterday, it is encouraging to hear that your spiritual beliefs are a really protective factor for you. As such, I'd like to copy some of what you said just as a reminder for you today, in case it helps. I really loved your insight in it.

there is this concept that people are born for a purpose and everything happens for a reason. I may not see the reason behind the suffering right now. ... Maybe one day I’ll understand and realise the true purpose. If I left, I would never know.

Re: therapy progress

Progress and stagnation and even declines through therapy is very normal, especially with complex MH @creative_writer *big safe hugs*. And especially at the moment whilst you are in survival mode!

If it helps any, as an example, I started with a counsellor 5 months ago (after not having a regular one for over a decade). I picked her because she is very experienced in trauma. I see her weekly (even over Christmas, we altered out schedule so that it would only be a 1.5 week gap!) - except when I was overseas for a few weeks. If I travel domestically - I do telehealth still. 5 months I've been seeing her. Whilst my plan was to talk about the trauma and some support for my SI, until now we have only even mentioned trauma in 2 sessions! We have not done any work on it directly yet. Why? Because I have had "bigger fish to fry" with supporting my SI. and that is totally OK! I know she sometimes wonders if she is helping - because often its me talking over how I feel and thoughts I can't tell to others -- but it totally does help me cope with each week having that person to talk to (and I tell her that 😊). Today was the first time I've been able to actually say to her (since my introductory email which I used to see if she would be a good fit for working on trauma and OK with the topic of chronic SI) that I want to work on trauma-related topics. After 5 months!!! 😂

Re: inpatient MH private hospital

Anxiety is understandable - not "stupid". 😊.

I have also heard a lot of "horror stories" from people in public MH wards; I think the stories I have heard are from involuntary admissions though - unless the negative part was the bed-neighbour's behaviours. When I asked a peer worker (in an SI support group) about this trend of traumatic experiences in MH wards, they said alot of what they have seen/heard is the shock and also how some police "deal with" MH situations (prior to or whilst waiting at the hospital), and in terms of the wards/nurses themselves, it's often that when the person has calmed down they are sometimes still waiting for the pdoc to come to do the assessment to determine if they can be released - and that this can take hours to happen.

Hearing this makes me feel much more "comfortable" myself with the idea of a private hospital and voluntary admission - it's an option for me too if my SI worsens in the coming months.

I'm not sure where you live or which hospitals are an option, but there is one in Greater Western Sydney that I have only ever heard really good things about. I knew someone with bipolar and SI that went there in the past, and someone else more recently mentioned that they also had a good experience there too (with a trauma background).

I wonder whether finding which ones around you that are options are the most positive review/reputations? Doesn't mean you are deciding to do an IP stay - but to know which one you WOULD choose if you DID decide to.

I read that you do some volunteer work. 😊 Can I ask what? (But its OK to say no - esp for your privacy!) Appologies if I have been told before and have forgotten 😬.

I have done youth mentoring as a volunteer (20 weeks per year) for the past 3 years.

I am glad to read that you've been able to reduce the hours of it whilst you are exhausted and in 'survival mode' - that sounds a really healthy thing to do, to not overwhelm you.

Does the volunteer work help you feel connected to people, or provide meaning?

@Jynx I saw the photo of the cat and thought for a moment "is that your cat??" then read that is wasn't. What a stunning cutie though 😍 and so friendly to strangers?! Sweet!!

@creative_writer coconut is so cute! What a great name! And "samosa" lol Love the name! Do you name them all after foods? Or just a coincidence?

Re: truama therapy options

I don't know much about different trauma therapies - although I know a little about EMDR because of a family friend who was/is a practitioner in it (I also worked for them for a bit as a receptionist when they needed an extra helper).

However I have been told there are trauma therapies that do not require talking about the trauma directly or reliving it.

I experienced trauma in childhood, but I only have two "memories" - both of which are like a "photograph" snapshot in my mind (not a video), and I don't recall how I felt or what I thought or any other context beyond that snapshot image! All I know is what when I think about it I feel really uncomfortable and squirm - egh! (shudder). For me, "reliving" it really isn't possible because I don't remember or connect emotionally to it enough (it's how my mind protected me). But I have been told there are ways it can be healed without this. 😊.

@AuntGlow is my go-to on the forums when I have questions about trauma or trauma-therapy. 😊

I wonder if you could see both your current psych (for continued support) and an EMDR therapist? Alternate between the two for sessions perhaps?

But, you don't have to think or decide on that now! As you say - stabilising first 😊.

Lastly - happy distraction topic 😉

I love 😍 foreign films! Yes, i prefer original audio with subtitles too!! Plus - they were the best movies to go with my Deaf friends because *guaranteed subtitles for the dialogue*. Open-caption sessions were really rare, and many cinemas back then didn't have the closed-caption devices (plus a lot of my friends wouldn't use them because of the difficulty reading them then looking at the screen after, like a game of tennis and missing half the visuals!)

...although once, a film had some interactions with Aid Workers who spoke in English, so then I had to interpret to my friend in the dark cinema 😂 - not ideal lighting lol.

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Re: Mixed feelings-might be getting another diagnosis (ED)

@creative_writer sorry it's a bit of an essay 😅. Don't feel you have to respond to it all - or even all in one post! Whatever is best for your works fine for me. 😍

@Shaz51 joining you on the couch

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@AlwaysMyself I think my psych has noticed the decline and thinks something needs to be done med wise. I know they say bipolar as a strong biological basis, sometimes I just don’t want to believe that. I’ve been on meds long term, and I’ve needed them, it’s not always easy to accept that. I think my parent don’t want to accept it either. We want to think I can get off them someday.

There is a lot happening for me. I know safety is priority right now. Then I can work through trauma, but I am seriously wondering whether talk therapy might do more harm than good. I’ve tried it, I ended up feeling more broken. EMDR might work because I won’t have to verbalise it in much detail. I also sometimes struggle to find the language. I don’t think all pain can be verbalised, I do think it’s been stored in my body. My brain is different, I find poetry way more helpful in processing than plain talking. Metaphors and imagery describe the pain better. I think poetry helps me write about it without being so direct. Being direct can feel overwhelming.

I will probably do a voluntary and private admission if needed. Public sounds too scary. I found being in ER very limiting. I know private has a wait. Private still sounds scary, hopefully it’ll be more trauma informed. Being in a different environment is hard and will probably send me on edge, but hopefully it’ll be quieter. I would probably go on psychiatrist recommendation.

I volunteer for 2 hours per week on a text helpline. I used to volunteer on an other helpline too through phone, but I’ve discontinued that for now. I’m trying to manage my mental health but I do want to contribute to society. Having shifts once a week for 2 hours gives me time to recover in between.

We name cats after food 😂. My sister got the idea from someone she met at uni. I think we need to get a cat. Waking up to a fluff ball will be a pleasure.

The subtitles aren’t always so accurate. I’ve been watching Turkish, and I naturally know some words because of common words. English isn’t the only language I speak. I also have learnt some words by watching TV, I can swear in Turkish now 😂.

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This marriage suitor thing is triggering a lot of anxiety. I know my parents want me to get married. Maybe I’m also vulnerable right now and emotions are amplified. But I’m terrified, I guess I can’t really avoid the unavoidable. I don’t know if I need to change my self care up a bit, it’s still been a struggle

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I wish I didn’t feel the pressure to change. I feel the pressure to put a potential partner’s needs before my own, even if I hurts me in the process. I’m too broken.

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What's coming up for you tonight @creative_writer?

Here to listen. 💖

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@AuntGlow the whole marriage thingy is stressful. There is a whole process in my culture, and sometimes people get too obsessed and excited. My parents haven’t thankfully been super pushy, but can’t say that about everyone else. People think you should just get married and settle down. My grandma once wanted to talk to a guy who I never spoke to, or even seen an image of. My parents declined, so nothing came of it. There is a whole process behind it. Many people find it stressful because they feel enormous pressure from others. There is pressure to get married young, especially for women.

It’s brought up a lot of anxiety because trauma has left me feeling anxious and uncertain. I’m afraid of how to be in a romantic relationship when there is a huge change of trauma surfacing. I don’t want to feel pressured. I know they say the right partner will never pressure, but the anxiety is still there. Maybe I want a relationship, but I’m also very afraid of it.

I know emotions may just be extra heightened since I haven’t been doing well. I’ll see my psychiatrist soon to see if we can do anything medication wise. It feels like I seem to get triggered very easily. The idea of meeting potential suitors has put me on edge

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I think I need a chapter break tonight. Maybe I can get that when I sleep. It may sound strange I look forward to sleeping. It’s good to get a break from the thoughts and urges. A lot of emotions have come up for me tonight. I don’t know how long it’s going to take me to heal or when it’s going to happen. Hope has been looking dimmer lately. Bipolar depression, OCD and cptsd are pulling me apart. All I know is getting some sleep might give me some respite. SI gets exhausting, sleep is safety

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Gosh, this really would be so, so overwhelming. Of course you are feeling pressured; it sounds like a situation where your sense of choice isn't always being considered in the way it should be - is that right? @creative_writer

I am really glad to hear your parents are supporting you here. How does that feel for you?

Feeling uncertain and anxious around this is perfectly valid. I know it can be really scary to consider closeness when we have experienced trauma. It makes sense why getting to know someone properly would be such an important part of you feeling safe in a relationship, and you absolutely deserve to.

Would meeting someone and getting to know them, on your terms, be an option at all?

What do you need most right now? And if you could choose anything in this situation, what would it be? 💛

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@AuntGlow it’s a relief my parents are there to make sure I don’t feel comfortable. I still believe you should talk to a person before deciding to get married. My mum wasn’t super happy when her cousins said that they’re looking for someone for me to my mum’s cousin who wasn’t married at the time. I just thought marrying my mum’s cousin would’ve been too complicated, he lives overseas and family stuff. I’m not completely against cousin marriages, but it can be complicated.

I am also wary of guys who are looking for a wife whose sole purpose will be housework. I want a career an freedom. I need someone who is emotionally mature enough and I don’t want petty drama. I’ve seen way too much petty drama in my life. The competition between wife and in laws is exhausting to watch, probably more exhausting to go through.

I think I’ve been thinking too much about a lot. My trauma was activated, even before the marriage stuff that came up recently. These contamination thoughts are hard even though I know they’re not true. This shame is hard to sit with.

I often don’t know what I need and what kind of support I need. I’m not always sure what to do. I just want peace. I want peace from the SI and SH urges (I’m safe). I also want peace from trauma and the thoughts associated with it. When I’m low, cptsd affects me more and can make the SI worse. Trauma isn’t enough on its own to cause such strong urges. I just feel depressed, and I don’t know why I’m this low. I guess depression is just like that, it can be hard to explain. You can’t really think yourself out of it.

I see my psychiatrist on Tuesday. I’m hoping I’m not broken beyond repair
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