Tabaluga's

Was that like Herbie re 'superbugs' .. @Faith-and-Hope how's that for left field lol ..

yeah just 'sneaked' a peek at 'far side' then, interesting stuff re wh etc, sounds like things have seen before, glad its not me sorry, but you do seem to have an impressive 'toolkit' re the level of analysis/strategy etc ..bit confronting in a way to opposite sex, I try to keep things simple, and yes, doesn't always work, well not past short term ..ha ..maybe that's why he has 'put a lid' on whatever it is, so he can keep it in pure form that he may or may not have had help with re mil ..sorry thats prob not really helpful, I do think that is part of people not sharing is that they want a certain outcome and arent sure it would survive being out in the open..

Herbie .... lol .... 😆

Really complex situation re WH @TAB .... and I don't think he knows what he's got "under the lid" cos I think he's been numbing it out for a very long time. He's very practical, and has been "managing" whatever it is behind masks of what society would call acceptable behaviour .... this e.d. no different.

Before all the modern day help and understanding, people made their way whichever way they could, and lived with the issues .... I had a g'mother with mi .... g'father "worked away on another property" a lot .... they were separated, but who knew ?

WH has made lots of adaptions, and they carried well enough till this version of e.d. kicked in (previous one was BED causing morbidly obese) .... and split, and morphed, and now it's a set of conditions meshed together, and yeah, there are mil issues in with the mix.

And st#rv#tion makes chemical alterations to brain function too, that don't come right until the physical side is corrected .....

He's a good man @TAB .... just carrying wounds on the inside that he won't let anyone see or deal with yet .... yet ....

There's something called Stages of Change, and I think we're starting to tip from Stage 1 to Stage 2.

@Faith-and-Hope s Superbug

sorry I forget @Faith-and-Hope was wh obese? guess its not that far removed to exercise madly as opposed to eating its still excess dunno. anyway you are the one living with it it whatever 'it' is. but was just saying the shutting out thing is not unfamiliar to me even recently.sure you'll work it out and no need to reply and sorry to hijack you to over here

Not a problem @TAB .... the forums are here for everyone .... all learning from and supporting each other.

Yeah ... WH lost half his body weight ... made a huge medical difference .... should have been a total success story, except the e.d. mind-set hasn't changed

(BED - B/nge Eating Disorder has only been named and identified as an e.d. in the last 5 years or so ....)

An e.d. is a mental illness .... it's actually nothing to do with the food itself ... that's just the "channel" it's using for its emotional pain / control issues .... you could swap it out for a whole range of other disordered "channels" .... mind-altering substances, self-harm behaviours, addictions .... all the same category .... all need support and / or treatment to overcome.

Have dropped a list of the e.d. forms we're battling into the What's new: services, research, technologies if you want to know more about them .... needs more public awareness ... but don't worry if it's ott for you ....

ott @Faith-and-hope ..some things best left without a name that's my view, not unless defining it actually leads to mitigating or 'fixing' it somehow somehow cant imagine how the world ever worked without diagnoses anyway maybe it does help some but cant see where the $8.5 billion apparently spent on mental health in australia is going, well besides to govt and professionals.

There are loads of success stories @TAB .... most professionals in the field know what they're doing, but you get your bad eggs in all industries ....

People are sometimes healed through treatment methods, other times given strategies to cope with living with their condition. Takes a diagnosis to develop and apply the right strategy ...

Can leave it at ott tho .... 😊

I'm gonna head to bed now .... thanks for the company ....

G'night ... 💤💤💤

Well I would hope so @Faith-and-Hope re successes think am going back to bed got tired again all of a sudden, well after trip to early opening supermarket, well no coffee, and food may help lol yes thanks for company