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Oscillation between two mind sets

Oscillation between two mind sets

Sometimes I feel like I’m on top of things and don’t feel like my trauma defines me and I don’t feel so ashamed and scared. Other times I want to hide from the world and feel like a **** (I’m not going to say the word here since I don’t want to trigger anyone) 😭, I feel so ashamed that I don’t want people to know

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Sounds tough @creative_writer .

That's why sometimes it's easier to have external people to support. That's what I found. I couldn't have my family support me at all. It was all external.

However, I recognise you family are quite hesitant when it comes to accessing external support. That's okay too.

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Oh that's hectic @creative_writer and really hammers home what you've been saying about how these beliefs have formed for you. Despite what the internet says, in my opinion we are all responsible for our own triggers. It's legit impossible to participate in the world and not be exposed to potential triggers. We can and absolutely should reduce potential triggers where possible (like our guidelines on here) but you accidentally triggering your mother is NOT your fault. It's not hers either - it's simply two wounded humans bumping into each other, knocking the wounded parts and having to nurse the pain for a bit.

Also, like @tyme said, this is why I don't talk to my parents about my mental health. One time, my mother wanted to know why I was in therapy, so I started talking a bit about my anxiety, my self-doubt, my insecurity. Her response? "Oh no, does that mean I wasn't a good mother?" Yikes. Now suddenly it's no longer about my pain and my attempts to heal from it, and all about me putting my emotions on hold so I could reassure her. So... I feel you. It hurts to get shut down, and hurts worse to get blamed for upsetting someone, despite the fact that in that moment you couldn't have known - you just needed them to listen and hold space for you.

Humans are experiential learners. The best way to teach the mind and body that it is safe to be emotional is to have repeated experiences of the thing that once made you feel unsafe (being emotionally vulnerable) being responded to very differently from how your mother has responded in the past. Having someone respond without judgement or attempts to fix things, and without exploding at us or guilt tripping us, does wonders for rewiring our brains. Hence, therapy. Therapy can actually help us relearn what it feels like to be safe in a close relationship. It's a very unique kind of relationship, sure, but it still works to teach our primordial monkey brains that we don't always have to tiptoe around on eggshells, bottling up anything and everything until it explodes out of us. Whilst it may always be that way with your parents, building that ability to allow ourselves to feel safe to be vulnerable makes it that much easier to break the cycles we inherited from our parents - especially as we move into new relationships. So yeah! Therapy! Knew I studied it for a reason 😉

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@tyme, that’s true. I just go behind my parents back if for some of my support. They don’t always know when I have appointments. I do find it hard to trust external supports though, trust issues are hard

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And we also need to take into consideration cultural values @creative_writer . Hence, it doesn't make it right or wrong. You are doing your best @creative_writer . That's all we can ask of anyone.

I'm curious to know where people draw the line to say they have trust issues. I feel I really have trust issues too. There are very few people I trust and hence I tend to keep to myself. I see this as a protective factor though... so I don't see it as 'wrong'.

Thoughts?

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@Jynx, I do feel deep inside my parents feel guilty about me ending up this way. My mum wants me to be more open but I just can’t. I need to protect both of us. They used to ask about my therapy appointments more often but they don’t really anymore. I don’t really tell them about each and every appointment. Nor do they know I joined a service recently to get peer support. I feel my mum feels upset that I trust my psych more. I wouldn’t say I trust my psych more, I don’t really trust anyone fully. My mum can get quite emotionally charged so it’s a natural instinct to protect her. I’m the oldest child, so a lot of responsibility falls under my shoulders. I know I have a long way to go, it all feels so overwhelming

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I wonder if it's explaining not so much that you trust a therapist MORE, but that you talk about different things. For example, you speak to your mother as a mother. You play the role of a child.

When you talk to a therapist, you play the role of a client. @creative_writer

A mother may sometimes be expected to be everything (mother, carer, therapist), but sometimes, it's about mothers just being mothers.

It reminds me of a time when I had two psychs. Yes, they were both psychologists, but I saw both for different things. One I saw for long term skill development, whereas the other was to support with risk. It doesn't mean one was better than another, or that I trusted one more than another... but more that they were there with different hats on for different purposes.

You can't say a cup is useless just because you want to use a water jug instead. Nor can you say a water jug is useless just because you want to drink from the cup. They both have different roles.

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@tyme, the problem is I never ever feel completely safe in any relationship. I can’t even fully let my guard down in therapy, it feels too vulnerable. Constantly feeling the need to be guarded is very draining over time. It’s like you’re constantly masking.

It is true relationship with therapist is a lot different to relationship with mother. Though I know in some cultures they emphasise resolving issues within the family and not taking it externally. I still don’t think it’s healthy to treat people in your personal life as therapists. They are simply too close to you even if they have the therapeutic background. I do think think seeing multiple supports can be beneficial. I have a pdoc for meds, psych for deeper stuff and a psych nurse for more general things in between psych appointments. I also have a peer support worker from a service now too which I just joined

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It's definitely a start @creative_writer . Well done to opening yourself up to your vulnerabilities. I acknowledge this takes a lot of strength.

We will be beside you. And yes, as you said, taking a mother as a therapist just doesn't work. Just like my sister who is a teacher but can't get her kids to do any homework...

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@tyme, it’s going to be a process. It’s not going to happen overnight. It took me a while to realise how guarded I am around everyone, more so with some than others.

I think treating someone like a therapist does create a lot of pressure too. Relationships are two sided

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@creative_writer It makes it incredibly difficult when family members have their own MH struggles and even worse when they both deny this or refuse to accept your own. Hugs and hugs Hon ❤️

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