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Struggling to be

Struggling to be

Hi all,

I'm a new poster here, and finally stepping up to say hello. New to posting, that is, but I've been reading here for a while.

My main reason for not posting is that I haven't known what to say about myself. I still don't. I've nothing to be proud of; I'm ashamed of how I've ended up, and what a failure my life has been. I've been heavily depressed for most of it but done my best to be a "brave little soldier"; spent a little over twenty years on anti-depressants which merely dulled me as I watched life slipping out of my grasp.

I've tried. Really hard. I don't have a lot of contact with other people, because ... well, I simply don't trust people any more, and there's not a soul on the planet who cares about my well-being or even existence. I've reached out for help several times to so-called professionals, but it hasn't gone well. I don't have a reason to be here any more, but i'm too much of a coward to do anything about it. (More shame.)

I'm not fishing for reassurance or compliments. I'm aware that what I've said doesn't sound inviting of help or kindness, but it's my way of saying "I Exist", in an honest assessment.

I don't know what it would take to ignite my pilot light again. I really wish I did. But I suspect things have gone too far into the dark to ever escape the numbing shadow of What Might Have Been.

I admire those who can be positive, and brandish hope. Good luck to you all.

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I hope you dont mind if I partake of conversation between you and CherryBomb. I like the tone of discussion on this thread. I am a personwho has had very few boundaries and am trying to teach myself about them late in life. Here goes.

I have a book of poems called Edge Effect: Trails and Portrayals. It is based on the biological concept of the Littoral Zone, eg coastal sea/land habitats and ecologies.

I dont tend to like straight lines and have jumbled, overgrown garden. My pictures are on the walls in uneven clusters. They average out with some sense of balance .. but I do NOT measure it .. it just needs to be pleasing to the eye ... MY eye.

I have cared for plants outside my property line, (to the ridicule of some people in my street, who say I am doing the council's work, but mostly I get respect).There is a cyclone wire fence near my house. Often canola plants are self seeding there ... so I have a new boundary ... Monsanto rubbish can stay the other side of the fence. It is easier to manage when there are clear boundaries. We can become automatic in our responses etc. It can be time saving .. if they are accurately labelled.

I guess socially often boundaries can be like assumptions. I tend to be wary of people who pride their intuition, as they dont often actually try and reality check and find out about the other person but often like to prove their ideas about others being right. It makes it hard for someone like me on the edge to move in from the margins. In some ways I am now used to being there. I see myself as a critter of the Littoral Zone. Always trying to fit in ... on the edge .. so I guess I understand boundaries differently. I just dont take for granted the same that things that many people do. I have always been willing to learn, unfotunately not everybody shares that trait with me.

I learned "readiness" concepts in piano teacher training and preparing students to play duets. It is quite artificial in many ways, and a lot of effort, awareness and money is used to encourage the lucky student to be aware and be able to choose and tune in and play with another well. It can be good as it teaches the new generation better awareness skills than earlier generations but we do need to be aware of evolution in standards of living. I have rarely been "ready" for what life gave me. It has usually been a matter of rising to the occasion and sinking as often as I swim. I may be ready for a performance or not .. music is an area where hitting the right note is typically a matter of great pride ...

I havent read Robert Bly but he sounds interesting and the concept of a 'sibling society' revealing. We cram 30 children of the same age in a classroom for 12 years and presume they will get along and it gives accurate insight into normal milestones ..... what about the multiage societies of village cultures ... I think writers that encourage Americans to view their society as one (or a set of cultures) among many are important. They werent ready for 9/11 despite all their expertise or intelligence .. theoretical or security.

I read a bit oif The Golden Bough and comparative religions and I found it interesting that Robert Bly's website mentioned him as a man trying to write about religion when the world is turning away from religion.

My interest in religion is why .. why people believe anything .. how trust or faith are developed .. or its converse. What are the assumptions ... it doesnt mean I dont have beliefs but I am careful about them.

Sorry for ramble ...

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Love this @Appleblossom
Love the connection to boundaries and nature

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Gooday all,

I'm sitting in court waiting for the next step to happen....... For it to go to court to trial

And he's making me look very bad with the magistrate. The magistrate has already told us that we are wasting his time ......I just want this over but now the stalker wants little bits and pieces he has said I have offered him in the past.
The thing I've got to remember is that not to look a victim. I tend. I let things ride and I need to interrupt and say no this is not true

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Oh my gosh, @PeppiPatty Anne, I had no idea all this was happening for you.

I'm sending sincere best wishes and all good vibes in your direction.

Hang in there, kiddo!

Aonaran

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Dear @apmaran
The court case was dismissed. I'm So sad. The support letters meant zilch to him.

The magistrate told me that he's not convinced that he's a danger and now that he has said he will leave me alone he will

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@shenightowl wrote:

Hi there,

I am new here myself and can very much relate to your words. I also have made bad choices due to anxiety and depression and worst of all was devastated by immense feelings if SHAME> only since i came down with a severe illnes in the past two months i was able to reflect how I have been so self critical, pushing myself to the limits to keep working when I could barely function.

I know how difficult it is to trust others, but I really understand now that I need support. Maybe for yourself,just by posting on the forums and interacting with others you may find some comfort.

Sending you best wishes..I feel for you and hope you find someone you can reach out to. We are all on here because of our suffering. take care


Dear @shenightowl,

This is a lovely message, and I'm so sorry it didn't get replied to. I think it got lost in the page turns, which is a pity.

Yeah, shame is such a trap, and it's a killer. I personally think we need to talk about it more, be more upfront about it in society in general, if only to dispel its grip, but we don't ... why? We're all so determined to look like we've got everything handled, while our unspoken shame is limiting our lives and making us hurt each other in both body and spirit.

And I'm very interested about the relationship between emotional states and physical illness. If you have knowledge of this, I'd love to hear more.

You're right about the effect of posting, I think. Speaking for myself (and I imagine others feel similarly), it does give me comfort and a sense of contact. And I know I talk about myself a lot, but it's the only thing I know (Hah! assumptions alert!), and I post it in the hope others will respond and talk about their own experiences. That's how I learn, and expand my awareness.

I'm sorry to hear you've been ill, @shenightowl. I hope things are on the mend.

And I hope you'll post some more, and share more about yourself.

Kind regards,

Aonaran

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@Aonaran
@shenightowl

I've put the Robert Bly book in my Booko list to get. The book reads like one I want to read !

Yes well, @Aonaran you have written another message that I reread .....
I can relate to what you have written about shame ......
Please write more
I'm not making sensible responses but am reading posts
Anne

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I hope you find it interesting, @PeppiPatty !

I'd be interested in hearing what you think.

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Hmm, a bit shy about saying this, but:

Folks, if you raise a glass sometime today (don't care what it is -- chablis, chinese tea, chicory or cough syrup), please spare a quick thought for me -- it's my birthday! 😉

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Let me be the first to say happy birthday @Aonaran! I hope you have a lovely day. It'll have to be a coffee toast from me as I'm at work. Any plans for the day?

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