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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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Hi @Mazarita hope the chemist remedies help you. Great that you made it to your womens group. Well done in the midst of depression. Very glad to hear your GP has made a plan with you for going forward from here. The specialist clinic sounds interesting if not overdue for you. I'm sure trying it is worthwhile.

I understand you feeling tired and somewhat depressed from yesterday. And possibly the ad dose change. There's no real way of separating out specific causes when we're down and multiple factors are involved. Hope you get some more restful sleep tonight with less turbulent dreams. Hope the same for myself!

I am going to book an earlier appointment with the psychiatrist after all. Sil said she will take me. I had been trying to have it when the SW is available but that meant waiting til April. I'm fairly certain my meds need tweaking too, sooner than that. But, as with you, there are multiple factors contributing to my depression.

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I tend to find there's always multiple factors behind depressions, @eth. I remember I used to try to discover what was 'at the bottom' of them at earlier times. Only to find a rather long list of possible culprits underpinning my depression. These could even include weather, state of physical being, something someone said to me the day before, frustrations over various things and, of course (underneath all of them for the most part), my mental illness. It got a bit ridiculous how long those lists of contributing factors could be. Complex mental illness indeed!

Thanks for your supportive words about the various things affecting me at present. I too hope you get better sleep, less troubling dreams tonight too, and many future nights. Great to hear that you will be getting an earlier psychiatrist appointment. SIL helping out again, which is wonderful.

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I echo your first paragraph @Mazarita and the list could go on!

Going to have another rest now and then cook dinner for the 3 of us. That usually picks me up a bit and I've not done it much lately. Just an easy veg stirfry with noodles, hoisin sauce and sesame oil and ginger. But it will still probably take me about an hour to do it. Hopefully take my mind off all the s&%t that can remain nameless for now.

Lovely to have some live chat with you. Take care lovely

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Enjoy your dinner and distraction, @eth. Again, good to chat. Ciao for now, dear friend.

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@eth Good AFternoon eth hope your day is turning out just the way you would like it to xx gp 🙂

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I've just done a post on "Anyone Started with the NDIS?" thread for anyone who's interested. -- I will come over and have a look @eth

Hello @Former-Member, @Appleblossom, @Bunniekins, @Mazarita, @CheerBear

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Hello @Mazarita

@bless you for picking up how I was feeling..

I am extremely sensitive at the moment..

I feel as though everyone is avoiding me in real world and on here..

all part of mental illness whwn as you and @eth said so many contributors piling up..

thank you both..

I shall try to be more sensible...

💚💚

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@Former-Member, I find tagging a troublesome thing on the forum in some ways, as it seems to lead to these kinds of hurt feelings at times. I have been on other forums where tagging was not a thing at all, just notifications that someone has posted. That seemed to lead to less troubles, however it was also less personal in some ways.

So, good and bad in tagging both, I think. For me, I just find tagging difficult in general, trying to remember all the names in a very short moment, then the cumbersome process of actually making the tags, and only then the chance to leave a message. Especially hard for me in the mornings when I'm very foggy and tired. All of this to say it was in no way intentional to leave you out. You are always welcome with me.

I do understand how sensitive you might feel at present, with so many stresses happening all at once and struggling with each day. Perhaps it is the same in other threads too, no intent to leave you out, just one of those vagaries of the forum. Gentle hugs to you.

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Hugs from me too @Former-Member I know I've been preoccupied with my own stuff the last few days. Hopefully I can be more support to you now that the meetings have happened. I think of you often and hope your pain has been less today and you feel informed and supported for the operation coming up.

I agree with what @Mazarita says about tagging. It is often hard to remember everyone when we are dealing with our own problems, even if we are keen to support each other. Everyone fluctuates in the space they have to be there for someone else. Try not to take it personally - it does take some getting used to.

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The traffic is getting heavier and that means the sun will be coming up soon and the birds will be waking. Thinking of you @Mazarita and wanted to send you and all here (not tagging - feeling the tagging feels sometimes myself!) a good morning 💛
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