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A long rave

A long rave

Edit Feb 2018: This thread has evolved into a chat thread, which is fine by me. In addition, I encourage other members to feel free to post their own 'long raves' in here too if wished. I will continue to post my own longer raves from time to time, as well as chat with friends along the way.

Original post from May 2016:

First of all, a (very) long post alert. Please don't feel obliged to read or respond. Mainly I am writing today to clear my own head of some things. So, here goes...

Last week, I managed to get to all planned appointments and activities every day of the week except Sunday. That only amounts to one, maximum two, per day, but was an improvement on previous weeks and months. I've made all planned appointments in a week before, but there have not been so many appointments in so many days consecutively. Many of you will know that, prior to about mid last year, I spent years very rarely leaving the flat. This was since the last of my breakdowns from paid employment in 2008 (one of so many similar breakdowns from paid working, though none as devastating in consequence as this last one). With each of these breakdowns, the recovery time got longer and longer. It's taken eight years to recover much at all this time around.

This week, so far, I've made none of my appointments or activities. In fact, I've not showered for days. Embarrassing to admit but maybe helpful to own up to it. As I write I'm still in what I wore to bed, as I was all day yesterday and the day before. The weird thing is that I don't feel that bad in my emotions, just crashed out physically and lacking almost all motivation except to use the computer. In other words, my mind and fingertips are alert and active, in fact nervy and overactive as usual, but the rest of me is crashed out. Perhaps I have entered what some people call a bipolar 'mixed state'. Whatever the terminology, this is where I am and I've been here so many times before.

The way I see it, there are a number of possible reasons for the way I am after last week:

  • inner conflict about how helpful my psychologist treatment is for me (saw her on Friday);
  • trying to further reduce my tobacco intake (the struggle seems disproportionately huge and exhausting);
  • needing recovery time from a big week (by my standards);
  • simply another manifestation of bipolar disorder in me.

Regarding the psychologist. She is young compared to me and I have the feeling that she may not grasp the full extent of my situation, partly through lack of life experience. Perhaps she may particularly lack an understanding of the various physical ailments that complicate things with me, some age-related (menopause, musculo-skeletal problems), one of them a chronic illness (crohns disease). She is treating me with some techniques from Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, something I honestly have never liked the sound of when I've read about it. The main 'homework' I have for this four week period is a sheet I am meant to fill out every night covering various things including tobacco use, coffee intake, isolating, unbalance eating, sleep patterns, lack of exercise. The sheet also includes sections monitoring mood every day. The problem I find is that monitoring and (by implication) tackling all these things at once is just overwhelming. I am significantly depressed after filling out the form because it seems to highlight all the ways I am failing rather than the ways I am succeeding. The psychologist has given me this sheet as homework once before and it had the same effect on me then. A full month long slump into depression is what followed. This sheet makes me feel very pressured to recover quickly from all of these things at once, a message that contradicts the advice of my psychiatrist (who I trust much more). His advice is to take it slowly and steadily and not feel rushed. As of yesterday, I stopped using the DBT form altogether. I am even considering giving up on the therapy with this psychologist after my next (sixth) session instead of seeing it through to the ten sessions my GP is willing to refer me for.

With the difficulty of further tobacco reduction, I am succeeding in reducing this a little more but the effort is gargantuan and seems to be sapping all the strength I have for making it out the door to my activities and appointments (or even to get dressed and showered). Writing here is just about the only thing that is distracting me from smoking again or thinking about it obsessively.

I've run out of steam on writing about it all now (a huge sigh of relief from any readers at this point).

I wonder if anyone else can make any sense of this.

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@eth have a nice day. Take care.

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@Bunniekins hey beautiful pea, have a great day.

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Hi @Angels333 ,

I'm going to have to keep my replies a bit shorter - I just can't keep up, even with my new keyboard - I donlt think it's helped mt type faster than on phone because im not used to the keyboard.

I totally get what you said about constant struggle in your brain - I really get it. Mine is the same - it is torture, along with thephysical symptoms I get, a lot of which are in my head, like foggy, can't think straight, can't make decisions etc.

It's good that you have support from your hubby. We are the same age by the way. I don;t have a lot of support from mine, a little bit on occasions but it's very intermittent. Mostly I just have to deal with whatever I'm going through myself. Or talk to my elderly friend who is there for me when I need her. My mum was but isn't anymore due to her own health struggles.

It's great that you are able to work Angel. I woul give just about anything to be able to go back to work, but I can't even make basic decisions so it wouldnt be possible. Plus I have to go into hospital to get off short term anxiety meds that I've been on long term before I can thinki about going back to work. I'm just scared they are going to terminate me in the meantime. I'm praying that they don;t. That would be devastating to me.

Re climbing walls and prn, prn's are usually the short term anti anxiety meds which is my understanding, and thats the very thing that I need to withdraw off, so I just don;t know how they are going to manage that. Totally not looking forward to it! I really don't know how they are going to do it but I guess that's a problem for them, not me, isn;t it. But I can't help worrying about it.

Anyway, I better go. Blessings to you my Angel.

Doglover xxx

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HI @Bunniekins , Thanks for your reassurance about not going to the celebration , I was so torn and really heartbroken not to go.

Thats a really tough situation you experience with the food thing, that must be very challenging for you at times. You must miss a lot of outings and celebrations as a result. I'm really sorry that that's such a challenge for you.

They don't seem to be ablt to find the right medications, I've tried just about everything and react to it, but I believe Im reacting to the ingredients in the medications, not necessarily the medications themselves. Of course the medical prpfession don;t give any credence to that. I just want to get off all the medications. They will be taking me off some (the short term ant anxieties) but I really want to come off all of them, I think it;s the drugs themselves that are screwing with my brain. But I have no idea if it is even possible to get off them.

I have been doagnosed with severe anxiety disorder with comrbid panic disorder. Still haven;t come to terms with that yet.

I still think this all started when I had an iron infusion which I always react to with extreme anxiety and insomnia and other related symptoms that last about a week. This time I couldn't hack it so presented to MH triage and have been on meds ever since. But I think the meds themselves are messing with my head. Every other time I've been able to get over the horrible episode that I get with the iron infusion, but not this time, it;s just continued on for about 10 months now and it's torture. I just want out. Ive had enough of it and it just wont go away. And I have no confidence that going into hospital is going to help at all because of my beliefs about the meds themselves causing the problems and there going to just keep trying different meds which I believe will just keep perpetuating the problem.

Anyway, enough about me. I hope everything is ok your end greenpea. I'm thinking of you.

Dog lover xxx

PS:Apologies for the typos. The curser won;t go where I want it to on my phone so I cant fix them.

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Thanks @eth re taking so long to respond.

I hope you are doing ok. xxx

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Hi @Bunniekins I think I am starting to go forward but I am scared. I was trying to find a counsellor or someone that was not too expensive. This morning I got a contact back from a place that said they will take me for a session tomorrow. They usually charge $30 minimum but where money is tight they can take it down to 0. I booked myself on the train (It is in the city, and that its the only way I can get there) and now I am doubting myself. They said they can do phone sessions, but I don't want to just be talking to a phone and not know who is on the other end so I said I had to meet them. But I am not good at meeting new people and I don't know what I have to do.

Do I put down some/all the things I know I need help with? Do I just turn up and hope for the best? Can I take a cuddly toy with me to keep myself in the present? And if the words won't come out, can I just write what my mouth won't say?

I'm sure someone else has been through this so I am hoping someone can give me a few tips. I want to have my monkey that I was given as holding something keeps me knowing I am here still and that I am not in the things that I have to deal with. Does that make any sense? I know I need this, but it does not make it any easier. I know it will be a long day. I am longing for but dreading the appointment at the same time. The only transport is a train that leaves at 6.30 in the morning and gets back at 7.10 at night. The trip is always exhausting with all my health issues, but I just know it will be even harder. I want to try and find out if they can tell me somewhere I can go to hide out for a couple hours in the afternoon. There must be some sort of a drop in centre somewhere that I will be safe at.

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@cutiepiekitty I think writing some things down before you go into your appointment tomorrow is a great idea - as is taking your monkey - whatever helps you Hon.

Hi @Bunniekins @eth @Meowmy @Doglover and all passing through the Rave. Hope you have all had a little light in your days

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@Zoe7 Hey Zoey, thanks for kind message. Hope you are having a good day. I am okay, just having usual struggles and worries. Wish you a good evening. Take care.

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I have actually had a good day today @Meowmy The kids were really good and that helps. I am glad you are okay despite the usual struggles - we need to take those positives where we can admist all the usual worries. Hope you have a good evening too Hon

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@Zoe7 Thanks Zoey

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