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need help with sleep

need help with sleep

Hi Everyone

I am at my wits end with trying to sleep and im hoping someone might have some other ideas.

I have a good bedtime routine but I will admit that since my sleep has gotten worse I havent been keeping up with everything. Im having trouble with the layout of how to describe things so will do more paragraphs...

my daily routine always has a walk often of an afternoon, eating well, limiting caffine (I dont have caffine after 12 oclcock except a cup of tea every now and then but not after 5 oclcock with dinner), basic hygeines of a bath or hot shower, and before bed calming down by reading a book or doing abit of relaxation and incorportating an extra self care activity of some sort like arts or baking, abit of extra exercise and watching a favourite movie.

The things ive tried are:

-limiting caffine

- going to bed early and sticking to a routine of sleep/wake

- going to bed only when im tired (with such little sleep atm im very fatigued and in bed by 9ish)

- relaxation methods inlcuding breathing and/PMR exercises.

- making sure I journal and use my worry box to get things off my mind

- when awake or constantly tossing and turning ill get up and go for a walk, get a drink or just get up out of bed. Lately ive been even more distressed over sleep and so jittery I find my self cleaning (scrubbing floors, mopping, scrubbing the sinks) or pacing.

- Ive tried natural remedies for sleep (as prescribed by a naturopath)

- Tried (one type) of sleeping medications to which my gp and psychiatrist are now telling me I dont have any other options.

- salt lamps- they are suppose to help so have one of those

- essential oils- I put abit on the tops of my feet and my wrists

- making sure my room is comfortable- with always clean and fresh sheets/bed covers, room is tidy, cool room with the fan on lo and often oscalting so its like white noise.

-listening to music both the music I actually like and calming music including certain sounds like waves or the rain (via youtube links)

-going to sleep with the tv on so its abit of noise.

- making sure im not in pain the best I possibly can by taking all my meds ive benn prescribed, and physio exercises etc.

-letting myself just move around and accepting itll stop eventually but it never seems to (takes over 4 hrs to even partly settle but then it starts back up again)

-recent one- as suggested by someone to try listening to a book while falling asleep but stayed away for a long time.

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Ive spoken to my gp and psychiatrist to which their replys were I dont have any other options for sleep medications or other mh medications despite only trying 4 (one only for 3 days as had a reaction) with each being in a different drug category. She wont refer to me to a slepe specialist either.

I am forever tossing and turning, it becomes very distressing to me to the point I have tears of distress, desparation and frustration, I get hot like I have a fever but my temp is normall though occassionally goes up to 37.6 and im guessing its from being hot and very aggitated.

It has been over 3 weeks of either no sleep, or 3hrs and under. I think ive had one or 2 good nights (5 hrs). I am exhuasted but yet I cannot stop moving.

Any ideas on what I can do?

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hi @Queenie@TAB@Bunniekins hoping your all having a good if not better day

@Former-Memberi picked up something you said you were numb from the other day- are you ok today? here if you want to talk.

thank you again for more suggestions- im like you if im hungry then i get that gnawing feeling so if i need to have a small snack too but im usually ok. i usually crave sugar late at night so try to stay away from that.

some people actually get triggerred or more upset if they are hungry or thirsty so its quite common with those feelings.

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Hi @outlander yes it all go here. Finally rang to follow up re medical as hadn’t heard back. Passed. No lots more paperwork. Nearly done. Am nearly shaking am that hyper but in a good way. How are you going ?

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..so not no ^* stupid ph @outlander

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@outlander Hi outlander saying hi and checking up everything is alright with you today. I am well . Went out with mum which didnt go badly thank God! Everyday this week i had an activity so tomorrow nothing!!!!! Again thank God! 😄

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Thank you for kindness in noticing and enquiring @outlander, very kind of you. I appreciate it very much. A situation upset me, gave me quite a shock to see the way those offering the asked for help got treated. I'm still a bit numb, but recovering, and I learned from it.

The trip out was interesting given how I felt. I found the perfect lidded bins I'd been searching online for, for only $8 and got a chunk of meat that I cut into what they sell as sizzle steaks and had a steak sanger for dinner. So good it made me feel much better. (I does loves me some good foods. )

Thank you again for your kindness.

Have the most wonderful day you can.

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hi @TAB good you passed your medical exam, thats good news. I hate paperwork too. Boring.

Hi @Bunniekins good to hear your well, a rest day sounds good. Plan something nice and relaxing to do.

hi @Former-Member your welcome that does sound a little upsetting and can be quite shocking cant it. A reaosn why some people hesitiate to ask for help. Sounds like a bargain you got yesterday! Nothing wrong with the simple foods- abit of marinade never goes astray- the smokey bbq is my favourite so far.

struggling abit today mentally and physically but chatting on 'a long rave' so wont repeat it here there and everywhere

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Well hope things get better for you today @outlander .. ah, yeah took me nearly an hour just to attach files .. it kept dying on me well giving up, anyway, old computer and trying to attach 13 big files to one email after filling up cache already from scanning .. ughh ..well its done now .. and re medical person who took it was a bit in my face, made me look way worse than i was which is bad enough re attitude, comments, prob wrote stuff on report similar to what was being verbalised, lots narky comments oh is that all you can do etc, made me lift 45kg box and tried to egg me on to do more,the chart on wall suggested 30kg was enough, think she was having a lend ..made me worried was going to fail ... anyways ...

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yeh stupid papaer work and some gps can be quite rude @TAB at least its over now.

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Well wasn’t even gp , nurse at most. All very dodgy yes glad its over @outlander

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Re: Please help- i cant sleep!!!

Hi @outlander

Good thread. As you know I can also have a lot of trouble sleeping. Some of the things that helped me are below:

Stop looking at and turn off blue light - (internet, iPad etc). That definitely was keeping me awake.

Stop worrying about things that would not let my mind switch off.

No stimulants of any kind two hours before sleep (exercise, excitement, alcohol, intense reading, internet engagement etc, reading bad news etc)

Keeping a better routine - going to bed and getting up at the same time each night/morning ( even if I don't sleep well I get up the same time).

No caffeine after midday. No late night eating.

Keeping my mind and body active during the day (both has to happen) will ensure better sleep. Keeping a rountine no matter how i am feeling (except a day on the weekend to unwind).

Hope that has helped.

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