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need help with sleep

need help with sleep

Hi Everyone

I am at my wits end with trying to sleep and im hoping someone might have some other ideas.

I have a good bedtime routine but I will admit that since my sleep has gotten worse I havent been keeping up with everything. Im having trouble with the layout of how to describe things so will do more paragraphs...

my daily routine always has a walk often of an afternoon, eating well, limiting caffine (I dont have caffine after 12 oclcock except a cup of tea every now and then but not after 5 oclcock with dinner), basic hygeines of a bath or hot shower, and before bed calming down by reading a book or doing abit of relaxation and incorportating an extra self care activity of some sort like arts or baking, abit of extra exercise and watching a favourite movie.

The things ive tried are:

-limiting caffine

- going to bed early and sticking to a routine of sleep/wake

- going to bed only when im tired (with such little sleep atm im very fatigued and in bed by 9ish)

- relaxation methods inlcuding breathing and/PMR exercises.

- making sure I journal and use my worry box to get things off my mind

- when awake or constantly tossing and turning ill get up and go for a walk, get a drink or just get up out of bed. Lately ive been even more distressed over sleep and so jittery I find my self cleaning (scrubbing floors, mopping, scrubbing the sinks) or pacing.

- Ive tried natural remedies for sleep (as prescribed by a naturopath)

- Tried (one type) of sleeping medications to which my gp and psychiatrist are now telling me I dont have any other options.

- salt lamps- they are suppose to help so have one of those

- essential oils- I put abit on the tops of my feet and my wrists

- making sure my room is comfortable- with always clean and fresh sheets/bed covers, room is tidy, cool room with the fan on lo and often oscalting so its like white noise.

-listening to music both the music I actually like and calming music including certain sounds like waves or the rain (via youtube links)

-going to sleep with the tv on so its abit of noise.

- making sure im not in pain the best I possibly can by taking all my meds ive benn prescribed, and physio exercises etc.

-letting myself just move around and accepting itll stop eventually but it never seems to (takes over 4 hrs to even partly settle but then it starts back up again)

-recent one- as suggested by someone to try listening to a book while falling asleep but stayed away for a long time.

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Ive spoken to my gp and psychiatrist to which their replys were I dont have any other options for sleep medications or other mh medications despite only trying 4 (one only for 3 days as had a reaction) with each being in a different drug category. She wont refer to me to a slepe specialist either.

I am forever tossing and turning, it becomes very distressing to me to the point I have tears of distress, desparation and frustration, I get hot like I have a fever but my temp is normall though occassionally goes up to 37.6 and im guessing its from being hot and very aggitated.

It has been over 3 weeks of either no sleep, or 3hrs and under. I think ive had one or 2 good nights (5 hrs). I am exhuasted but yet I cannot stop moving.

Any ideas on what I can do?

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It rained all night here and I think that helped me get some good sleep, and a more rested start to the day. I still feel like I could sleep for a week, but that's how it is lately.

Hope you all managed a restful night and have a pleasant day. @outlander @Bunniekins @Queenie

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@Former-Member Hi SunShower yes it rained here too! and this morning beautiful, beautiful rain! So happy that you slept well last night I did too. Hoping you did @outlander. Yes this is the last time I see Dr Gorgeous!!! 😞 He did say though our paths my cross again in the future ... who knows.

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its been raining here too not as much today but still cold and windy @Former-Member i slept ok. i sleep better in the cold as well. good to hear you got some good sleep and are more rested. hoping your days going ok for you too

maybe in the near furture youll see him again @Bunniekins will you be giving him once of your scarves?

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@outlander I was talking to Snowie about it and i dont think they are perfect enough to give to him. So I will keep them as a memory of him and wear them myself. I am wearing one right now infact. I get to find out who my new doctor is too. I hope she is as good as Dr G although I doubt it.

So happy that you slept better that is fantastic. xx

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a good memory for you then @Bunniekins are you making anything new or more focussing on your studies? try not to put her (new pdoc) aside, im sure he has your best interests at heart, you might find you like her too

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Wow @Former-Member I don’t believe in ‘rating posts’ but that was a really Good one.helpful and well said. Thanks .. why are so many kind thoughtful articulate people on here re mh site. Well can forget it is sometimes. Just a random thought that occurred to me..

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Hello @TAB @outlander @Bunniekins @Queenie

The rain and the cooler weather has made sleeping much easier and more restful for me, I hope you're all getting decent sleep most nights now too.

It takes time to sort out the sleep thing too, because there are so many things that impinge upon relaxation.

Thank you TAB for your kind words, that was nice to read after the way my input was dismissed as unhelpful in a situation yesterday. Yeah, the kind and thoughtful people and MH - oh, goodness I have some thoughts on that but best not to get into it.

Have a pleasant day if it's at all possible. Another trip out for me, but I'm so numb from yesterday, today won't have any effect on me.

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@Former-Member@outlander@TAB@Queenie Hi all! Wishing you all a love day today 😄 xx

Sunshower thanks for the tag. I agree am sleeping better this week than for a long time and I have been out everyday this week and am freaking out!!! Just want a day inside under my covers ... Saturday is the day ... all day in my bed under my covers so to speak.

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Stay safe @Bunniekins and what a lovely reward to look forward to. 'Undercover Saturday' - perhaps we should all have one of those!

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@outlander I remembered another thing I do that I have found really does help with the cues to settle and relax for sleep.

I do have a snack before bed (diabetic and need food spread out and my schedule is somewhat back to front with time anyway).

Change into bed clothes, quiet the lighting, noise etc, turn on fan, stuff like that. Then I make my snack, usually toast with something on it, a cup of tea and I take them to bed with me and my kindle.

I sit in bed, reading, eating my toast and drinking my tea, every night before sleep. (yep, my mother, if we were speaking, would chuck a fit, but I am the one who has to clean things up and I'm ultra careful re crumbs and never spilt my tea in bed, so ... )

The routine of it helps set the scene as it were for the winding down for sleep time. And I cannot sleep if I am hungry, hunger just gnaws away being mean and disturbing sleep. That may have something to do with food being withheld during childhood, but I don't care to go there, so I just have a midnight snack and deal with the hunger.

Heh, there are so many things we do to help ourselves, it becomes a natural process and thus often we forget to put it in the list of 'how I cope with .... '

Look after yourselves, have a pleasant day.

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