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Self Compassion

Self Compassion

So a little while back @Pulch wrote a post that led me to book by Brene Brown (gifts of imperfection), which then led me to the idea of self-compassion and this great website, by a researcher called Kristen Neff, which I would love to share with everyone.

http://self-compassion.org/

So according to the researcher, self compassion is when "we give ourselves the kindness and care we'd give to a good friend". It is a skill that can be learned and improved on and it is made up of three areas: self kindness; mindfulness; and common humanity (recognising that suffering is a shared human experience)

Her work also challenges some of the social ideas we take on that our unhelpful to our wellbeing e.g. "I need to be critical of myself to achieve and improve"

I've been looking around the site it seems like it has some helpful videos explaining what self compassion is, and the difference between self compassion vs self esteem. There are also some guided meditations and exercises that I am looking forwarding to trying out.

AND there is a little quiz where we get to test our skills in each of the three areas. Aparently, while I am doing pretty well at the self kindness thing, I still have, shall we say, lots of room for improvement when it comes to the mindfulness and common humanity stuff.

I am going to try to learn some more about this self compassion stuff and see how it helps me with my general wellbeing as well as with managing my symptoms

So ... thoughts?

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Hi everyone,

As @MoonGal mentioned earlier, just the name of this thread started by @grubbytoes about three years ago, seems to lift my spirit.

I took the quiz again just now, after doing it for the first time three years ago and posting here then too. Interesting to compare the two results.

  • My tendency to isolation is still my highest score. In my own estimation I have come a fairly long way with this over the three years, but agree that it is still a powerful tendency inside myself, and I do still act on it by being withdrawn from the world on a regular basis.
  • The current quiz results seem to suggest I have improved on self kindness, which was my lowest score three years ago. I would agree that I am kinder to me now than I was then.
  • I had a high score on mindfulness three years ago. I seem to be on the high side of moderate now, so maybe I have become less mindful! I neither agree nor disagree with this result.
  • Back then I was average on overall self compassion. My current result is a bit on the lower side of average. In my own estimation, I think I might have improved in this area over three years, despite the test results possibly indicating I may have slightly less overall self compassion now than then.

I still don't know what I really think about the test. Again I just did it out of curiosity.

As I mentioned three years ago too, I still remember very well the time I went to hear the Dalai Lama speak, and how he talked about compassion. He encouraged us not to forget to be compassionate towards ourselves equally with other people. I still love that idea and, even though I may fall down at times, I continue to try to be a good friend to myself, as well as to others.

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Hi @grubbytoes @Appleblossom @MoonGal @Shaz51 @Former-Member and others who have participated or are interested in this discussion thread,

Today I have for the third time taken this short self-compassion quiz by Kristin Neff that @grubbytoes posted in 2015. There have been a number of years between each time I have taken the test. Each time I have done it more out of curiosity than conviction about the results. Still, it's interesting to compare results across a span of years and have a bit of a rave about my thoughts on this.

In 2015 I was scoring highest on isolation. Reassuringly I was also scoring high on mindfulness. My lowest score was self kindness. Overall I was about average on self compassion.

In 2018 I was still scoring highest on isolation, mindfulness score had reduced somewhat. Score had improved on self-kindness and was slightly lower than average on overall self-compassion.

In 2021 the test again suggests I am high on isolation, and reassuringly high on mindfulness again. Assessment of my self-kindness shows it now one point away from actually being high. Self judgement is high in this year's results, worse than the 2015 and 2018 results. Scored high on over-identification for the first time. Overall I once again score average on overall self-compassion.

So, after ongoing and active engagements with therapies and support over these six years, and a lot of improvements in my participation with the world and quality of daily life, the quiz seems to suggest that not much has changed in my basic inner thoughts and feelings about things. This leads me to suspect that some of these traits and attitudes may well be fundamental to who I am, or to my biochemistry, in any case not at all easy to change to a great extent.

After decades exploring different kinds of therapies and approaches, I find the conscious mind, its words and ideas, is only the tip of the iceberg of my human self. As I see it, the bigger realities of myself are wordless, and may not be greatly affected or changed by my conscious ideas. The vast majority and power of the iceberg seems to reside much more in my body, heart and soul, which have also seem to have a greater intelligence that is beyond words.

Having said that, over the long term (years, decades), various forms of therapy and learning have built up into some positive improvements and generally increased the quality of my life. Far from a cure, but I have also learned along the way that some improvement truly is better than none, even if I continue to live with daily distress.

For me, the 'over-identification' category in the quiz was best explained earlier by @Appleblossom as tending to involve "a merging of the entire self with the issue, and an inability to be aware that there are parts of the self that are not actually hooked into the behaviour, the negative thought, etc."

I love that part of what Apple said about there being parts of the self that are not actually hooked into the pain of what we are experiencing. These are parts of myself that I seek to grow and become more connected to. In many ways this is for me a spiritual quest to heal my relationship with life itself. I will likely be seeking this until my very last breath.

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"In many ways this is for me a spiritual quest to heal my relationship with life itself. I will likely be seeking this until my very last breath."

@Mazarita That was a beautiful post and Thank You.

Sometimes I have so many words ... too many words ... and other times .... wordless... but not an iceberg ... ha ha ... not kool enuff for that.

Feeling quiet at the moment.

In many ways had a lovely day in the sun with people whom I respect, but dont know very well. Respecting my energy levels. I guess that is self compassion.

Did physio, a little cardio and a big food shop. Tossed 2 pies each in the oven for son and I. There was still salad in the fridge.

Pooped!

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