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What does recovery look like for you?

What does recovery look like for you?

Dear all,

Sorry, I have a burning question and I'm hoping you can help me here. I'm not even sure that I've picked the most appropriate topic area to start this discussion (if not the mods might help me out and move it please?).

I have just come home from my first meeting of my council's Health and Wellbeing Advisory Group (on which I am a community rep). It was pretty good in many ways, but it also rubbed salt in a rather old wound and begged this question. BTW I will be very upfront and say that not only am I interested personally what you think/feel about this, I also want to take the range (because that's what I think there will be) of responses back to such groups. Why is that? There seems to be a very predominant view, not only in society generally, but even in MH professionals where they should understand the nuances (like some at my meeting), that MI recovery = returning to paid employment.

I am happy to share what I feel about this issue a bit later, as I don't want it to colour your responses and I know I tend to be vociferous. I hope that's ok, if not please tell me! Thanks.

Best regards,

Kristin

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I think returning to employment is good.

I think the goal of returning to employment is a good one. My job is the only time in my life when I feel productive, respected and valued. When I was at home unemployed there was absolutely no relief from the pain. But I know everyone can't get to a place where they can handle functioning in a work environment so that should always be considered too.

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yeah, i really can id with 'the gifts weve been given as a curse'. i am new here but id like to ask a question - is schizophrenia an illness??

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Yes Stan. My understanding of mi is that they are medical illnesses. Schizophrenia is a broad term for a range of symptoms. Welcome to the forum

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HI Stan

Schizophrenia is a mental illness characterised by a very specific range of symptoms which are assessed and measured against approved diagnostic tools.

There are a range of Schizotypical illnesses of which it is one.

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Yes @stan it is an illness in psychiatric history,

Yet I know 3 people who successfully reintegrated into community and found it more empowering not to accept "schizophrenia" as a label. Those people actually did not do the "right" thing by me, personally, so i guess I was not a part of the community they were motivated to "impress". however ... they still had relatively good life outcomes

There are definitely states of mind and difficulties that people face that can not just be easily shaken off by the will. I have no doubt that accumulation of serious neglect and abuse can damage people for long periods of time or permanently.

Yet I still think it is important to be careful about glibly accepting the DSM as a new bible as society generally rejects the old Judaeo-christian tradition and bible. Sometimes people are motivated .... by an "its not me" ... "its them" ...mentality etc.

I am very curious about how the MI - MH landscape will look a century into the future.

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Despite a period recently of being very low, for me recovery is life now. When I went to see the GP, not very empathising IMHO, she suggested a medication change. I was horrified as most give me tardive dyskinesia . Her other suggestion was to see a public Psych. For unresolved issues. I have spent most of my life in freaking therapy.......my experience of the public system in Qld was so horrible, I am allergic to public psych system.

I survived despite everything. I live happily in a country town, with good friends, and there is a good peer support group here.

i understand that I have 1-3 bad periods a year, and through the peer support group has run programs for planning for those periods. I think having survived 4 decades does contribute to keeping safe. The only thing I have never been able to attain has been a life mate, but I think loneliness is a part of being human. Having returned to my faith has been of great support and nurturing. This forum has been of great help to me too,

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I respect your position @Neb.

We dont need to be more pathologised than any symptoms we actually experience. Sorry you had a bad time at GP but at least you havesome face to face support groups.

The tertiary institutions are churning out people but empathy is not high on their course lists.

There are many riches in the old ways and traditions.

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hmmm,

My husband tells me that Schizophrenia is an illness but Ive always thought it as a condition.

But remembering the sefinition of 'recovery," in the nearby Psyche hospital and thinking that this is not the only thing that needs to be updated. I cannot actually remember what they wrote though.

My recovery definition changes as well.

Shouldnt we all try and write a paragraph on our own definition of Recovery??

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Hi there, and thank you for posting this question which for me is very pertinent. I am still recovery four years after coming out of a six month psychotic episode and experience daily heads pains and exhaustion. A psychologist I saw recently did mention getting back into paid work and I asked her when she thought I might no longer experience my daily frustrations. This stopped her in her tracks and she changed the subject. I have told my psychiatrist that from now on, given the exhausting path of recovery - I feel I have to take control of everything in my daily life - just to keep well. I wonder if there is a lack of understanding which leads to this over-focus on work. However there are also different types of work. Hobbies can result in paid work. I have written a book about my experience with bipolar disorder 1 - WTF! Life is not always what it seems - I guess that might be considered work though it felt quite cathartic in its completion. Hope this helps, Dave @davevirgo 🙂

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So like reading your posts @Appleblossom
Personally
Me and husband definitely discuss schiZophrenia as an illness and a condition.

When we seperate for 2 years..... He worked very hard on owning his illness/ behaviour
The good / craziest part for me is not hVing the police over most nights
Getting headaches of my own life not from continual stress
The best way I found to be a very proud consumer meaning I have accessed mental health agencies in the pAst
Is standing in front of the mirror and saying it
Learning to laugh when the weirdest people bring it up in public, smile and agree
Feeling a strong stick inside me holding me up strong when speaking it
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