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What does recovery look like for you?

What does recovery look like for you?

Dear all,

Sorry, I have a burning question and I'm hoping you can help me here. I'm not even sure that I've picked the most appropriate topic area to start this discussion (if not the mods might help me out and move it please?).

I have just come home from my first meeting of my council's Health and Wellbeing Advisory Group (on which I am a community rep). It was pretty good in many ways, but it also rubbed salt in a rather old wound and begged this question. BTW I will be very upfront and say that not only am I interested personally what you think/feel about this, I also want to take the range (because that's what I think there will be) of responses back to such groups. Why is that? There seems to be a very predominant view, not only in society generally, but even in MH professionals where they should understand the nuances (like some at my meeting), that MI recovery = returning to paid employment.

I am happy to share what I feel about this issue a bit later, as I don't want it to colour your responses and I know I tend to be vociferous. I hope that's ok, if not please tell me! Thanks.

Best regards,

Kristin

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Hmm, a good and thoughtful thread and replies. I agree recovery is individual and very personal. My experience goes back to early teenage where I went to the GP and told him I wanted to seriously self harm, he sent me off to what was to become a long journey with different pschiatrists, different diagnosis, long in hospital , sectioned, you name it. I took on a sick role and heck I was very unwell for far too long, the wretched drugs sort of zombied me. Eventually, in a way which is not desirable I ended up 3 decades later, with a very queer psychiatrist who did not fill me up with chemical substances, but LISTENED....a novel approach.<br><br>I had been on a disability pension and was desperate to be normal and functional in a work environment. I was also very ashamed of my health issues. <br><br>Recovery is where I am now...I no longer work and on a pension. I am mostly in a good space as I am the sum of my experience. I have SURVIVED and my foray into the world of mental health was the result of surviving trauma.....I think I deserve a b****y medal if anything. Recovery is being content, which is very beautiful, the ability to forgive the past and let go ( not easy), and knowing I have nothing to be ashamed about.

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Very late posting but had to be the wet blanket. Sorry. You are someone who cares so deeply and understands the personal struggles with MI. That is not the case of the people you are dealing with. The word illness not them means ' burden on society' what ever the illness. Therefore to them recovery can only mean ' unburdening society and being a good little mould fitting functional productive member of society and work for a living.

It is wrong but it is about money not real peope like you and me.
Sorry maybe I am just wrong but it is what I see. I am a school teacher recovering from a breakdown at which time I was treated with ECT. I quit fulltime employment and now do relief so would like to know where I fit on their scale.Thankyou


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Ehat does recovery look like for me or what I am aiming for,

Well firstly it involves me managing my episodic episodes and being in control of my actions.

It would also be good to be able to love myselg again anf be able to share that love with someone else so that I make them feel special.

To also know the triggers and warning signs so I can do my best to address my state of mind and utelize everything that I have learnt to maintain control of my life.

And lastly to be able to look at myself in the mirror and be able to be happy with what looks back at me.

That for me is what I hope my recovery looks like

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I know this is an older thread. But I would like to add to the pot.

Recovery for me in a perfect world would be to be asymptomatic.

This not being a perfect world Recovery in my case and mine alone would be to be able to improve the quality of the life I live.

That is also the Recovery Model definiton or near enough.

I wish to return to work for two reasons. The first is to be distracted from the constant stuggle with symptoms.

The send is about where I wish to work.

I became mentally ill at a very young age. But the lack of ability to control did'nt hit hard until my early thirties. I am mentally ill because a psychopath who adopted me hurt me for their own enjoyment for well over a decade. This was formative stuff. I became ill not because of genetics but because my brain was malformed by experience. This is hard to live with because there is no sense to it. No reason.

The only way I can find a level of acceptance with this lack of reason is to try and find a way to make the experience that formed me, and the illness itself somehow worthwhile.

I was a youth for many years and I was good at it. NAturally, intuitively.

I believe that finding a suitable starting positon working in the MH sector will provide for me that sense of reason and make the experience of my life worthwhile.

This is my interpretation of recovery.

Doing good out of a bad experience. Of course I've taken certifcate courses in community services and mental health so I am aware and able to work in current models.

I think though that generally for MI sufferers recovery is not about working a job. It's simply finding a way to live with an ongoing illness that affects every part of one's life. Not merely surviving day to day as many do, but to be able life a rich and full life. Whatever that might mean.

That is recovery.

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kristin, firstly you have to define recovery, is it temporary, or complete. If it complete it may only be for a short time, as in cancer there is a thing called remission, that can be months or years. It is also like a lot of physical injuries once it heals is that the end or can it recur, there are just too many variables for anyone to say an MI sufferer has recovered, recovered for full time re-employment, resume an earlier existance . I won't go one on and be a bore but I hope you can get the gist of my post. "How long is a piece of string" quote from some dumb space tv show, "That's life Jim, but not as we know it ."

loopy

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Sandy just found a sight regarding the word "Cure"for MI. this is a brief sample.

What we have instead of cures are a bunch of treatments. Most of which work pretty well, to varying degrees. But to most people seeking mental health assistance, treatments can take a frustratingly long period of time before finding one that works. For instance, finding the right medication can take months. And finding the right, experienced therapist you feel comfortable working with can also take months (even longer if the “good” therapists have waiting lists).

Once in treatment, your physician or psychologist rarely mentions the word “cure.” Cure is what doctors do for a broken wrist or scurvy. Set the wrist or give the patient a vitamin C shot, and voila! Done. Treating mental illness rarely results in a “cure,” per se. What it does result in is a person feeling better, getting better, and eventually no longer needing treatment (in most cases). But even then, rarely will a professional say, “Yes, you’re cured of your depression.”

Depression, on the other hand, like most mental illness, knows no boundaries. It will come and go as it pleases in our lives, even if we’ve successfully treated one episode of it. There seems to be little rhyme nor reason to when a mental disorder strikes, who it will strike (outside of genetic predispositions for some of them), and how deep or long the episode will last.

loopy

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Sandy, more .Which brings me back to the question — how do you cure mental illness? The answer — you don’t. You help people understand what it is, learn and engage new ways of coping with its symptoms, and help them do the best they can with the resources they have available. Right now, there’s no “cure” for mental illness. I hope within my lifetime, I can answer this question in a very different way. All by John M. Grohol, Psy.D.
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All true.
So rtecovery in it's actaul sense is an anathema.
Instead we use the word in an holistic sense.
Now to be honest I have not yet experienced recovery. But I understand the model and it is appealing.
I guess that means I want to believe in recovery.

That 's the problem innit?

Frickin Hope endures

Rick

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Recovery for me is aiming for the best in life, love and happiness, and living a life on my terms.. So on my terms, depression is a friend I don't meet up with anymore, we find that suits us both. Depression brings out the worst in me, so we've agreed on a long term separation. Occasionally, depression will knock on my door. Just to alert me to whether my life is in balance, and I do appreciate the knock on the door because I can choose whether I open the door, some conversations are had via the screen door..Anxiety is another friend of mine, and anxiety is a playful puppy with no regard for others. All anxiety wants is tummy rubs all day. Anxiety is in training as well, as companion dogs are early warning alarms. Anxiety sometimes gets too bouncy when I don't keep commands clear..that is, I am pack leader and not anxiety..
So between anxiety learning to be a good companion dog, and depression understanding that some friendships can be genuine without being overwhelming on either of us, recovery is possible..
Mind you, none of this friendship building with my two former enemies would have been possible without my weekly peer support group!!

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Sandy, I quite often use the term, a safe at the back of my mind. This safe no longer has a lock so I have to be on my guard 24/7 to make sure that when something said , done or seen does not open it and the bad stuff floods out. Unfortunately, being the f wit that I am my most vulnerable times are when I act the villiage idiot and my concentration lapses and the safe doors swing open, it also happen at night in bed whilst listening to my radio something is said and its too late the sh.t hits the fan again. No wonder I feel exhausted every day. I have tried.. don't matter.

loopy

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