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@ENKELI

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Ouch, i know how that feels. A few years ago i had all my top teeth removed and got false ones. The trouble is if i forget to take them out when i stress i bite my gums to bits. Never noticed i clenched my teeth when stressed, anxious or angry until i got false ones for now it hurts when i do.

If you struggle with a lot of pain. Check this video. Good stuff! No bad side effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIcaRDjeyE

@ENKELI @Lozenge @heartathome @Realness @Appleblossom

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=is%207&version=NKJV

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In Isaiah 7 Jesus showed me how religious thinking can never listen, not even after our anointing in the holy Spirit. For each one of us - a person in God's image - are uniquely ourself - yet fully in Him and from Him. As such explains Chapter 7 accurately in light of believers need to get out of socio-religious - be not of the world - and liberated its unholy powers Revelation 18 style, so spiritually we can be transformed Revelation 1-7 living His eternal life as our life.

For i know for sure our spiritual 'virgins' are EXTREMELY important conceiving true 'Emmanuels' in our heart. To me this is what chapter 7 of Isaiah is all about first of all spiritually. For it is placed straight after Isaiah's own calling in chapter 6, and when we read on we can see the prophets own sanctification, even as The word of God was revealed to him by The Spirit in the chapters that follow. In The End the poor man of God died a horrible death at the hand of his own king. As redeemed sinners we know about wrong ruling our good life killed our the truth of good life within.

So when i analyse the situation of the 'social or religious righteous' Isaiah 7 was written, and lay that next our life of religious/social rules like; either must, or only with 'special' permission, or must not, or only with 'special privileges', then we can easily see the 'forces the Word is on about' - our own inner socio-religious inner strife about what is true, always partly joined/supported by powerful yet contemporary outside influences our judgements of ourselves.

i reckon that such is clearest a physical/fleshly addiction - where either - WE HAVE TO and/or WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO. Yet either do not measure up God's FREEDOM psychologically/spiritually as revealed by Jesus. For both 'good' and 'bad' mixed up is The Forbidden Fruit and shapes an ever burning ego taking all for itself the fires it lights in our soul. A life without self control in truth and in love for ourselves in all our wants and needs, not just a big I demanding and craving after good that never satisfies.

For self control applied in love truthfully dies to the selfish demander within - either side of the coin of good and bad within. Yet self control without love only ever feeding our ego has us both taking uncontrollably, unable to stop, or, not allowed to have, our own socio-religious rules of heart and mind.

Nevertheless walking in faith the love and grace our Lord Jesus, in His Spirit, will rebuild our 'bad habits' when we humbly sacrifice our bad life lived - into a self controlled life the truth of His love Alive within us. Such is THE TRUE liberation He speaks about when He says 'when His/The Truth sets you free, you shall be free indeed!'

With Jesus as King of the heart we can enjoy God's goodness without MUST HAVE or FORBIDDEN TO HAVE - to whenever the need/will/desire arises Down Here. For in the love of Jesus we can eat or drink freely, no more driven by fleshly demands and needs but feed our fleshly needs God's goodness when the NEED arises. The Word simply says - our life in the flesh will(begins) serve God. For we enjoy God's goodness, without such goodness being harnessed by a hot noisy egoistic self, to the cost of ourselves in other parts of self. For according to my understanding of God's word to me, the 'little horn' described in Daniel 7 fits the description of a past bloated ego, for we are a victim with a very damaged self-esteem. Yet set free from that once we have been humbled by Jesus, and we in our selfish ego literally get our heads chopped living His Word of loving truth real. Where past selfishness is slowly deactivated by God's truthful love every day more, and we are raised in The Spirit of truthful love who restores our fallen spirit hurting sinful life Down Here.

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Goats Ruling Lies Within (Daniel 7:1-14)

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Oh you he-goats — so strong and cruel,

To dominate and devour your rule

What kingdoms rise beneath your hand,

While others fall at your demand. (Daniel 7:1-3)

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Let us name you, bring you to light,

So all may see what hides in the night

“For truth revealed breaks hidden chains,

And frees the soul from inward pains. (Matthew 6:23)

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You — lying tongue, so bold, so sly,

Denying truth when it draws nigh

polluting conscience wrong to obey.

And lead the heart from light to grey. (Daniel 7:4)

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You — loveless voice, so cold, so near,

Whispering emptiness and fear

Cutting us off from what is true,

Till love no longer carries through. (Daniel 7:5)

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For lies have cut us from our birth in love,

And left a hunger deep within

So we grasp and take what’s never enough,

And call it life, though bound in sin. (1 John 4:1)

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This hunger drives the greedy eye,

To claim and hold, to never cease

Yet all it gains still leaves us dry,

And robs the soul of lasting peace. (Daniel 7:6)

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And so we strive, ever taking more control,

To shape our reality so we can meet our need

Yet in this grasping control of our soul,

We plant again the very selfsame seed. (Matthew 16:25)

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You — greedy eye, never getting your fill,

Consuming all to be had yet empty still

What once was good in me now fades away,

For all my joy is lost to endless sway. (Proverbs 1:19)

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And so comes the Dragon — the voice of blame,

The Accuser bringing us our guilt and shame

Binding life and mind with chains unseen,

Where self-judgement burns who we have been. (Daniel 7:7)

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A guilty conscience rules power to the lie,

for our buried truth will always place us nigh.

Sadly rather than returning to live by grace,

sin has us hide behind false identity's face. (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12)

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(Lament)

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Oh lawless pride's hot air inflating “I”,

claiming the throne and reaching so high

Proclaiming that big ‘I’ as god and king,

While death is all such rule will bring. (Daniel 7:8)

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For in this self we lose the right way,

The truth of self we with lies betrayed

Where imprisoned a life so very untrue,

we cut off the very love we once knew. (Jeremiah 50:6)

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(Conclusion)

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Yet untrue rule will not always remain,

For Kingdom Come will break the chain

When truth appears and light is known,

These shadows lose their borrowed throne. (Daniel 7:9-11)

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For when Christ comes — His light made clear,

No lie can stand, no darkness remain near

And all these voices will soon fade away,

Before the rising of His glorious day. (Daniel 7:13-14)

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The goats who ruled through fear and pride,

Will fall in us as our truth is purified

For with love restored, and falsehood gone,

God shows who we have been in Christ all along. (John 8:32)

@DownMoreThanUp Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I can't have anything with Turmeric in it as I have gallstones. Turmeric and its active compound curcumin, stimulate bile production and cause the gallbladder to contract, which can trigger severe pain or dangerous blockages if you already have gallstones.

I have anti inflammatories, plus the two most common over the counter pain relievers along with some schedule 8 pain meds that I was prescribed yesterday.

Fortunately the pain has reduced and I have been able to sleep.

@ENKELI

Bummer it does work good. i had to stop using it for it produced kidney stones in me. Together with the anti acids they produced small stones, yet painful, for more than 18 months. Sometimes 2 a week. However i think it is slowing down now for it has been a 6 or so weeks ago i had the last one. Glads about that.

i used curcumin daily for a few years to treat my gut and my nausea. It worked good but it end up being painful for ages.

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Proverbs 4: 22, 23 and 26 ICB

Verse 22:

“They are life to those who find them. They give health to the whole body.”

Verse 23:

“Above everything else, guard your heart. Everything you do comes from it.”

Verse 26:

“Plan carefully what you do, and whatever you do will be right.” 🙏

Biblical summary 🌿

Verse 23 then tells us to guard our heart, meaning our inner life: our thoughts, attitudes, desires and choices. What we allow to take root inside us eventually influences how we live and how we respond to others.

Verse 26 adds the importance of considering our path carefully. Rather than simply reacting to whatever life puts in front of us, we are encouraged to pause, seek wisdom and choose our steps deliberately.

Together, these verses remind us:

What we take into our heart matters. What we allow to shape us influences the way we live. So seek God’s wisdom, guard your inner life, and walk thoughtfully in the direction He is leading you. ❤️

@Realness @ENKELI @Appleblossom @Dimity @Lozenge @DownMoreThanUp

@heartathome

'What we take into our heart matters. What we allow to shape us influences the way we live. So seek God’s wisdom, guard your inner life, and walk thoughtfully in the direction He is leading you. ❤️'

Amen. Very rightly said. All those who suffer depression and anxiety know that bad decision really begin to hurt during bad times, often not at first our good times, but as good times go.

i found my bad decisions harvested me bad times usually pretty quickly. Yet not at first the good times i still had. But over time more and more as the good life died the bad decision or attitude growing bad times. Such is truly painful and Jesus describes as gnashing of teeth for i know in some of my decisions i will never forget the worms and the flames of guilt, shame and fear! But Thank God because of Jesus we know that in our past bad decision we can end up praising His faithfully right decisions to forgive us our wrongs, DO AWAY with the bad decision, so He can love us His Good Life anyway.

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For the truth of Jesus brings us back to our Heavenly Father lived in Holy Spirit. The gift of mercy we appreciate on this chat the most I'm sure.

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i have had such a blessed day today been talking with Jesus all morning.

(and then i discovered i can go back three months notifications. The first one i pressed was this one. Written after the forum had been off-line for over a week. So because i woke up feeling well this morning second day in a row this poem was very appropriate for contrast lived just 3 months apart. (written about going through one of the worst times of my life yet finding Jesus on the Bottom There.)

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Faithful and True

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This morning I awoke to mindful death,

A familiar guest there beside my bed,

Whispering hurtful and bitter things,

Feeding dark times lived left unsaid.

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Hot blood thirsty thoughts retaliating,

preaching revenge was surely mine to take,

Promising justice for my deepest wounds,

Yet leaving God's love dead in my wake.

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Red-handed His Word caught me in my aim

Not faithful prayer but my intended deed,

For I had no good intentions doing right

Rather Christ met me in my greatest need.

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I thought I knew my own heart in the dark

Thought I had measured all my inner pain,

Yet much deeper still dug the Living Word

A hail-bound heart thawing His gentle rain.

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I had wanted to erase His gift of life.

To let despair ruling become my king,

Yet Faithful and True He met me thus,

He didn't agree to destroy the living.

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Rather heed His Voice of Truthful Love,

The Word corrected me firmly yet kind,

His Spirit of Love casting out my fear,

Leaving the misery of death far behind.

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Whilst the nausea abated in His Rest Today,

The dogs fed while the pot was being stirred,

Gratefully I smiled away the bitter tears,

For once more I experienced Living His Word.

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Not that I had understood doing it right,

captive to a bed of thorns without any care.

No more beat myself up angry and depressed,

But hear Jesus say don't keep going there.

So I remain beneath His revealing gaze,

No boast from my lips can lay any claim,

Even so He opened my prison doors wide,

So He could call me by my rightful name.

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The hardened dirt He dug up from my heart,

Humbled I watch The Farmer sow The Seed,

A fruitful harvest in His Kingdom to grow

As the rulers of wrong in my life recede.

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All praise to Jesus, gracious and merciful,

Whose forgiving love met me where I trod,

no more wishing to depart The Way ahead,

He carried me Home into the love of God.

Beautiful Verses @heartathome

Thank you God be with you

with you all...reading this thread.

@ENKELI @heartathome @DownMoreThanUp @Lozenge

@Realness I appreciate you supporting my posts. I have not seen much from your classes on here lately. I hope you are doing alright.

Sending love to you all. Grateful for the walk together, the personal sharing, and the biblical and poetic words of wisdom and encouragement. We had a tough reading and sermon yesterday, although the minister meant well... they are all unique and pass on what they can.

God be with you all

@ENKELI @Lozenge @heartathome @Realness @Appleblossom

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As my sisters in arms, for me things have really peaked the colour red lights flashing. Things happening i had not accepted to see. Very painful. Very confronting. Very why would that be needed? i had a little psychotic episode, after a what turned out to be a very challenge meeting with Sam's carer. Came out of it okay, but should not have let a brother from Church come around the next day. When i had been unwell my hurt can become like a weapon.

i told him straight away i had been unwell. He came to make sure My wife's wishes would be taken care off, but no comfort for me hurting and telling him i was struggling badly after the episode. He offered some lame platitude and i lost it. i did apologise. i had told i was unwell. Did run off, but sadly not until after i told him what i thought of his hypocrisy saying he came to visit me, but all he wanted was my compliance my wife's wishes. Of course he was not pleased. Not me either. Been doing so well and then this happens. Today i was told two elders coming Wednesday for a visit, smells like double trouble coming up.

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i would say my experience is the good in a man or a woman will hurt the truth no matter the pain, but cowardly lies trying to rule will hid our truth behind lies and deceit, that is why the lies causing our suffering are not invited in the new, but the good lost to the lies always was, is and will be.

https://scienceinsights.org/can-christianity-and-science-truly-coexist/

Just thought this could be relevant to this thread.

We are all on our soul journey.

God be with you.