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Hi my friends, this is Bella here, I thought how nice & lovely to have a Thread for Christians. I am not talking about Religion, GOD is Love, GOD gives free will to us all in the world. I have a relationship with GOD through HIS Word-The Bible, most of my life. I became a Pentecostal Christian many years ago. Would you like to come join me here in this Thread?

I am excited about starting it, you can just sit relax, chat about your love, for GOD & JESUS. Or post encouragement for others. Support, or be supported with Prayer. Hey, would you like to, Praise & post links to Praise & Worship music? Stories, or experiences, poetry, fun things to help us have a giggle, lovely pictures, photos, there are so many things you can post & chat about that will Bless & Build us up in The LORD! Life is about giving, loving, healing flows from a loving heart, whom purely wants to- just give!

I hope & pray, you will receive, Peace, Love, & JOY!... & healing in your heart! Amen xo <>< Bella 🙂

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Sending love and care @DownMoreThanUp and @Appleblossom and @Realness .

I hope the meeting for support goes well today @DownMoreThanUp . Do you know what the aim in terms of outcomes is for it?

E.g. to find a few people who can come an visit you each week and chat to you during the week when you need someone to talk to?

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@Realness My dear friend my heart bleeds your words of comfort. so needed to hear them

@AlwaysMyself @Appleblossom @heartathome @tyme @ENKELI

Thanks it is horrible being the bad man not to be this happening in my raging alter. A true FIERY BAPTISM seeing the truth of our Lord appear in my heart then. Which is THE GOOD THING ABOUT ALL THIS.

i already know in my raging later i will not harm again, it are the crucify him crucify him all my bad deeds of my loved ones not understanding why suddenly i get so upset and hurt. And make them feel accused. All i want to do is kneel down and seek His countenance together so we can ALL be delivered.

THOSE VOICE say no way. My family is gone. My church prays, but no one comes or even sneds a message since saturday, then i got one, nothing since. The voice have been basically 20 hours a day at best or even longer since Wednesday. i am not psychotic. i'm not depressed. i'm hurting my family. i'm heart broken. Absolutely heart broken to find the end result of years trying to find the solution to what is and what is not true

For example what the voices in my head, which had long before she was in my life right, my wife thinks and feels about me is true. Then i never want to see her again. i understand she is very angry, this hurts me so, and i marvel that even though she is that angry she still looked after me for so long. and that i love her, but i will never believe that this is true.

Yet when she is angry those voices always tell me it is with me, even if she is angry with someone else. They blame me for my wife's anger. I KNOW she is not angry with me for i can SEE that. Yet i hear those voices at times like this 24/7 NEVER BELIEVING ANY OF THEM.

Yet then when she is triggered it comes out that she is angry. Of course she is. We both know that is true. But she is scared of me for in my previous psychosis i was angry with her listening to fear for me just because i was angry, and blinded stuff by me like that. Now she feels i'm always like that EVERY DAY behind her back doing all the thing she does faithfully lovingly. She is a wonderful person. While she thinks i'm angry with her for having a life outside of mine, which is not at all true but i love to know when she is angry without accusing but simply saying when you say, or do that, then i feel angry, for those voices lie all the time. Which SHE ALWAYS DOES OTHERWISE, but in her triggered self no way. SHE BLASTS ME HER HURT in the spirit that HURTS HER and ME and we both HATE THE most from opposite perspectives.

It has been so bad that i was on my knees pleading to my wife to please tell me show herself to me so i could kiss her and she screamed and yelled at me and i stood up and kissed her and said thanks So good to know i will do my best to believe you and try and make right what was wrong. And you know what happened. My wife let go of her anger and we kissed our hurt away that night it was awesome. So many moments we have had like this already. And all is good then. She can speak to me then otherwise not.

However although it was going really good with me - finding myself back and merging my alters. Of course she had hardship of course my desire is to stop that. BUT I CANNOT STOP THE VOICES THEY WERE THERE BEFORE SHE CAME INTO MY LIFE. i hate them.

That is why i ask after her pain so i could get to know her and we could begin to restore things in those broken parts the love of Jesus. My wife and me REALLY enjoyed that part. It are the triggers where my wife finds it harder to deal with me that the voices go ballistic now they taken her away from me without support, and that also still triggers me. That is why we are apart to both work on that. I LOVE THAT IS SO!

So it is not about always arguing not at all it is about me being so passionate about getting away from those voices and learning to understand my loved ones instead of no defense against their lies. for for years my loved ones hide their dislike and struggles from me, but that are the very reasons those voices use in my head to torment me, fro how can i fix things when they run away when i say please speak to me and they wont?

Now my wife, and them all, say just don't believe them. i do! i never believe them. but does that stop them! Nor my hurt being fired hell.

And then what about if i KNOW for sure at times they do, and i hurt that for them having become like that for they are never nice then either. i made them feel like that being sick.

Jesus has forgiven me my rages. i struggle no guilt from that perspective. He is right with me i have no lack of faith. it is my family not understanding my dilemma rightly feeling accused me trying to find out. So if they refuse to talk their is no mediator where i love and miss them, nor where i am a sick man and never wanted to harm any one, and as their dad longing for fellowship

This is where it went wrong.

I NEED THE LOVE OF MY WIFE SO MUCH HEARING THESE LOVELESS VOICES I CLING TO HER LOVE LIKE A PARASITE NOT KNOWING AT TIMES THAT IS FINE BUT NOT AT OTHER. this is asll am after i fully understand, and hurt the fact for her, that it is like that. Yet how can i know my wife when she does not talk? She does at other times. then she has FREE speech. For in the past when psychotic i urged them not listen to those spirits (I WAS IN) they were listening to, for as a loving family we do much better, not knowing they experienced me raging this at them an utterly mad man, gone out of his mind by those voices screaming their faces so it seemed to me THEY did. Even telling me to harm them. Luckily Jesus protected us.

THIS ALL OUR TRAUMA we ALL been healing from at different speeds. That now stops for they are AGAINST me trying to understand them hurting me. BUT THEY WILL HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH ME, apart of scream at me triggered, or stay away, SO HOW CAN I EVEN know who is who in my head?

This is my torment them tormenting me. I NEVER DID ANY OF THIS DELIBRATELY. JESUS helps me through to teach me. But i still need people io can pray with. cry my pain with. trying to learn not to get fixated on my mental pain.

It is a no win situation right now. Good to see Jesus keeping watch though.

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@DownMoreThanUp from what i am reading it sounds like your wife does like and love you, but is really struggling to live alongside you in the same house when you are triggered and the voices are really loud for you.

I am not sure if i have read and interpretted correctly or not?

It sounds like your wife is unable to be your support at the moment, and that for both yourself and herself there is needed to be more/other people to step in and to help support you both separately.

Is that a correct reading?

Whilst it sounds like your wife still cares, i wonder if there is a way you can within yourself find a place where you are not dependent upon her loving you? Where God's love is "enough" and her love, your childrens love, other friends, church or familys love - they are all a bonus on top but not "essential" for coping? 🤔

In saying this, i do believe we as humans are designed for connection and love - but i wonder if there is a balance between "needing" from a specifc person and being able to allow them space when they need it and in those times being able to shelter in the love and care of others for extra support?

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@AlwaysMyself Absolutely right! We both know that. That is what we are trying to do!

@Realness @Appleblossom @heartathome @tyme

But i have no OTHER life line apart of her. No car. no phone.She just ran of her pain. i understand that hurts but i cannot contact anyone at all at the moment. NOW I NEED HELP to GET to where we HAVE PLANNED TOGETHER WE WILL GO,

This is what i keep trying to arrange. And my wife is finally beginning to understand that just leaving me at home makes things worse. i need someone to lean on. i have all these years.

So yes Jesus is teaching me for sure. many things must change in me, i rejoice, the truth of them. But please do not leave me behind on my own with my enemies for 5 days in a row. and they wont heed me. My son hopes to come today so we can make arrangements. It is just me trying to deal with the pain of those voice hurting my loss.

So i'm no angry at her or even upset. Just pleading for support going through this. And them not thinking that is needed. It shows me how little they understand my torment tormenting me to demons delight. (so glad their faces are of it)

Luckily my wife saw reason now and got my son to come by. see if we can get someone else i can speak about my needs and pain to going through it when it gets too much and i fail. Hopefully i can arrange this with my son when he comes.

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@AlwaysMyself @Realness @Appleblossom @heartathome @tyme

i have hassled both my wife and my Elder for this since Wednesday night when the demons were worst. it has taken them tyhis long to respond. My wife looking everywhere for professional help. All booked out weeks away USELESS suffering THE MOMENTS isn't?

Satan is so cruel! He hates us so much. He is still mocking me my family. but it has become quieter and quiter today! it is getting better as i talk even. i think things are moving now.

Thanking Jesus smiling at me showing me the truth - GONE!

i'm going to cry for a bit now

Thanks listening.

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Hello @Realness

I hope you are doing well! Thanks for continuing with your Bible study summary! Even though I haven't been commenting on it, know that I've been reading them. I always look forward to your little comment at the end. 🙂

I know my sister had a doctor's appointment this morning but haven't heard anything since then. My catastrophic thinking has calmed down although I know it doesn't look good. I think God has answered prayers as far as I go! In the end, may God's will be done!

@ENKELI @REDLINEZ750 @tyme @Appleblossom

THANK YOU ALL FOR PRAYING FOR BOTH MY SISTER AND I! 🙏

I can't explain how much it means to me! I feel God's comfort around me. My feelings haven't caught up to my brain yet.

I'm sorry that you're going through so much @DownMoreThanUp ! I don't have much to give at the moment and I feel bad that I can't be more supportive to you 🩵 I can 'see' it's a REALLY difficult time and you're looking for support! I can 'hear' the desperation in your voice! I just don't have the brain capacity to process all that you're going through! I can relate to your feelings though (easier to process for me) and my heart goes out to you! I pray for God's will. How else can I pray for you, DownMoreThanUp? I hope the meeting with your son goes okay!

Much love to all 💜

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@heartathome @AlwaysMyself @Realness @Appleblossom @tyme @MissGremlin @Shaz51

i love all of you and the others too for you do suffer. i know it is hard for you @heartathome that you would still send me love and prayers is wonderful

The voices are gone. A few try to imitate you, or Jesus, or my wife, but i saw the truth, Jesus told me resurrecting my death hearing those voices all my life, and believing it was the devil when it was psychosis all the time. For now the psychosis was gone but the liars taking advantage i still believed in.

Delivered! my world is looking very much brighter right now. And my wife and me and everyone can rejoice my healing.

supporting with love is far better than sending flowers

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Hi @DownMoreThanUp ,

Thank you Lord Jesus that the voices are mostly gone!

Thinking of you with your son.

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It was like you were talking to me @AlwaysMyself . I always thought connection and love was a need but have realised it's a want. Is God's love enough by itself? Well, it has to be (if you are a follower of Christ), hey?

You have said it in a sentence! God's love is "enough" and any other love is a bonus but not "essential" I totally agree with you! Sometimes I crave affection and I think a lot of people do! It's not easy to be without on a long-term basis. Imagine some people have no connection at all. I'm grateful for everything God has given me, but being human, I want more! An occasional hug and well done wouldn't be so bad.💜

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@heartathome @Realness @AlwaysMyself @Appleblossom @tyme @ENKELI @Shaz51

Our oldest son just been. We had a wonderful chat. He was enormously stressed coming at first, thinking i was my wife had painted me to be upset with me.

However once he heard my side, saw i was not psychotic or delusional, but right in the same process as my wife just on opposite sides he listen. And i was able to share my story. It was awesome for a few times painful stuff for him, where we always got riled up things coming up from in the past, especially the triggers we had together a few times, we could now discuss without me or him going off. Rather for the first time instead of in anger he explained why he had become like that in response to me.

We could discuss an event that happened many years ago we could NEVER discuss before, because we both got badly hurt there at thew time now no problem whatsoever. NO VOICES means it does NOT torment me when they speak their hurt or accuse me of wrongdoing when this is so. Rather deep felt apologies from both side when we both saw how Satan done it but we were like father and son hurting that the same evil. We could hug. Make up.

Those crappy voices, i still had hours before he came, would have triggered me witless before that could ever happen, or have me say things that would trigger him against me. (Which is how it became in the end between us and his hurt.)

Once he understood how the voices went to work in my head, without me triggering his attacks me explaining, but his mental responses helping to show that is not how it was for me, and how they were not like normal struggles between good and bad mentally health people have, he began to understand why i turned out the way out turned out to be. Love, friendship (restored as well) followed followed for the rest of his stay.

i got his number now. Which he never gave to me before and we both agreed i get of mum's back and if i need anything or hurt, i chat to him. My wife i will only contact with love messages and good mornings and nights, and in response to when she feels like chatting not otherwise. We both agreed that's best right now.

So thankful Jesus came to our aid.

you okay @ENKELI ?

THANK YOU ALL A MILLION CARING AND PRAYING FOR US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSGgC9iQb0&list=RDARSGgC9iQb0&start_radio=1

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