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@Realness I felt you were brave and seeking clarificaton. Thank you for reaching out and caring for our brother in Christ.

@DownMoreThanUp yes, things are complicated. I am sorry your wife and you are separated. SOunds like she has become burned out. Sorry about your phone call with your mother. I have always seen things as complicated rather than good and bad. I just dont believe in simplistic good and bad. Whether it is due to the flawed excessive authoritarianism in the orphanages, and the big kids being naughty and full of attitude. idk. I guess I could see things from different points of view even back then, more than 2 or 3. Also comparing church and state homes. Hmmm. Yes my heart went to the heavens and I am not really that musch of this earth, though I love to understand the real science behind the immensity of creation, the fossils, the rocks, the animals and the stars. It is why I quietly try to steer conversation away from excessive dualism. I understand some personalitites are locked into ways of thinking, I see much intensity as often having some basis in neuroscience and fight, flight, freeze and fawn responses. It used to be discussed as only fight flight, but yes, they have suggested more than 2 responses, now. In the end words can lead us into argumentive states of mind. SO I do need sound and visuals as healing.

a picture of Jesus at the sermon on the mount ... the beatitudes.

@MissGremlin @tyme @Shaz51 glad to see you on this thread and giving support.

I have a lot of challenges burdening my family at the moment, so am not logging on as often. I have to face the reality of hostility and betrayal and grief, and harm done to my son. We are doing our best, as we always have done. My son is playing beautiful piano at the moment. I am very weary.

@Appleblossom loved that my dear trying to learn to do that.

@heartathome @tyme @Realness @MissGremlin @Shaz51 @AlwaysMyself

Good news is i got about 4 1/2 hours sleep on two sleepers

The bad news is the voices have not stopped hurting my my loss.

My wife was asleep and away so i thought i share my mental agony explaining as i did what the voices were tormenting me for then i can not feel i accuse her only the liars.

so i do....................the spirits who have tormented me all my life since child hood. Now having a field day with the hurt of my heart having my whole family gone, and no one coming by to see me. And how i had been here now since Wednesday on my own, and no one has been around. But yes they did pray in Church for me.

WONDERFUL.

The voices laughing and scorning me even as it all happens. Me seeing them tak my last life line away. My darling wife. i love so much gone as well then no one else making sure i get also some support.

And when i ask for support she feels bad and gets angry with me THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.

Sure great i love that. But what about now? Why she not understand you are hurting deep and i love her but the voices says she does not. and then she replies STOP DEMANDING!

Whiole i cried my request hearing those voices, which have always hurt me, hurt me with myself through my family hurting them me, not me them. Just pleading for some support. for it is driving me nuts on my own with these voices. not because i'm accusing them. but because i need SOMEONE to take my mind of my fixation to pain!!!!

who understands me?

Any one?

Such is my misery friends.

and how i needed them to say i love you, not you accuse me, when i say i hurt you all being gone out of my life right now.

Why do i acknowledge her hurt but she does not me? You know we understand it is important we give support to both.

life sucks big time.

Hi @heartathome , @DownMoreThanUp , @Appleblossom , @ENKELI , @tyme , @MissGremlin , @AlwaysMyself , @Shaz51 ,

Acts 14

- At Iconium, Paul and Barnabas speak in the Jewish synagogue. A great number believe.

- Unbelieving Jews poison the minds of the Gentiles.

- Paul and Barnabas stay there a long time. Speaking boldly with signs and miracles.

- But when both Gentiles and Jews are scheming together against them they leave.

- Paul and Barnabas go to Lycaonian towns of Lystra and Derbe.

- They continue preaching the gospel.

- Paul heals a man in Lystra.

- Crowds want to worship Paul (as Hermes) and Barnabas (as Zeus).

- Paul and Barnabas tear their clothes and are just able to talk them out of it.

- Jews arrive from Antioch in Pisidia and Iconium.

- These Jews persuade the crowd to stone Paul.

- But Paul gets back up.

- Paul and Barnabas go to Derbe.

- They preach the gospel and make many disciples.

- Paul and Barnabas return to the cities they've been to to strengthen the disciples.

- "It is necessary to go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God."

- Paul and Barnabas appoint elders in each church. Praying with fasting, they commit them to the Lord.

- Paul and Barnabas return to Antioch. Mission completed.

- They report everything God has done with them and that God had opened the door of faith to the Gentiles.

Paul and Barnabas are amazing! Despite ongoing persecution they keep speaking boldly about the Lord.

@Appleblossom @heartathome @tyme @Realness @MissGremlin

The good news is my wife just told me son be around some time today.

Please pray he comes with love in his heart, and we do not get triggered.

We love each other lots, but my son had a bad marriage, and also his own triggers when it comes to our past relationship. Triggers which hardly ever matter a great deal, even if my mine did. This was so between us until his wife robbed him of all his self esteem self worth and his kids, and dumped him. Then all the triggers became lethal and our good relationship has soured a lot. For he avoids me more than comes around. Yet we are still son and dad, as well if that makes sense, just have to make sure not say or do certain things, both of us. And he comes around with the kids. He is an awesome person at heart and i'm really proud of him and how he has made something out of his life and is helping his foster son.

So hopefully we can chat about that instead of me being a problem once more sick

@Realness @tyme @Appleblossom @heartathome @MissGremlin

Hi @DownMoreThanUp ,

I'm sorry that you overheard your Mum talking in that way. That's really painful and not what you need.

Good to hear you got some sleep. Are you eating and looking after yourself?

I'm sorry about the excessive voices. Does reading the Bible block them or make them worse? I liked the description of how you read the Bible. What jumps out at you and giving yourself completely to God through that Word.

I watched the beginning of that video The Deep End that you recommended yesterday. The lady was amazing. Three hours of prayer a day! I suspect you also may be as devoted as that!?

I am praying for you and your beautiful wife. I pray the meeting to work out support works well. I pray for healing for both of you. I pray that Jesus may sit with you during this time. I pray that God will help those supporting you have the right words and timing. I pray for a miracle for the situation. Lord, please do something about the accusing voices! In Jesus Name, I pray. Amen.

Thanks @DownMoreThanUp for sharing that your son will be there soon. I pray for the right words and actions for both of you.

Hi there @heartathome ,

How's it going? Has your sister received any results yet?

How are you going with the worry?

May God hold and keep you at this time.

Hi @Shaz51 ,

Most days I share my Bible study on this thread. Today I tagged you in. I have held off tagging you before because of all the Forum leading you do and the posts are very scripture based.

Please let me know if it's appropriate to tag you or not.

We are always honoured to hear from you on this thread.

Thanks @Appleblossom .

It is always good to hear from you.

I loved that you wrote: "my heart went to the heavens and I am not really that much of this earth."

This is why I read the Bible so much.