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Hatred of Positivity and other things.

Hatred of Positivity and other things.

I need to vent, just to get the bad feelings out of my system. It'll likely be a train of thought.

I can't recall the last time something went decisively 'right' in my life. I agree that it's probably subjective as to what I mean by right, and that the meaning changes over time, probably even to myself. What matters right now is how I perceive it, though, and how that makes me feel. I feel as if my life has been bad since I finished school: A variety of family problems leading up to that moment came to a head immediately after and lead to me suffering from chronic depression from then (2012) until now. I've done all sorts of things since then, like attempt three seperate university/tafe courses, attempt to lose weight through means such as gym exercise, regular walking, etc, practice drawing and art in my spare time.

Everything has been a failure, or otherwise produced no results. There's always some drama that happens that ruins my mood, drains all my energy and makes me stop what I'm doing, leaving me with another year in my life wasted. I get self-destructive thoughts like I'm sure most fellow sufferers here do, but I'm not the sort to harm myself. I am however, painfully aware of the time I spend doing nothing, screaming and crying in bed or wasting time away on simple, cheaply-rewarding pleasures.

My only fulfillment comes from making other people smile and be happy through the variety of online friendships I make while sitting here, doing nothing. My purpose is not to make people smile, however; it's not something I go out of my way to do, but rather a part of who I am. I can't readily discuss or reveal my inner pain to the people I love, or else they will likely no longer smile and be happy. It can be difficult to detect emotion in an online context, but I can tell in the way that people's written responses thin out, or just stop outright, when they want me to stop talking about my problems. I experience the same fatigue when people vent at me too, so I do not blame them.

Asking for a shoulder to cry on, or for advice with the variety of problems facing me is usually a double-edged sword as well: I do not know whether it is a by-product of my many years of being miserable, but I absolutely despise positive and motivational talk. It invariably comes across as naive parroting as opposed to experienced advice that is empathic. It doesn't help that most of such oft-repeated, upbeat advisorial phrases are usually accusatory or chiding to some extent; perhaps a better way to describe it would be that they're speaking from up high.

I probably sound like a wizened, grumpy Scrooge-esque figure, but I am perfectly capable of being positive and upbeat. It is part of how I manage to lighten people up and make friends. So why do these attempts at improving my outlook on my life infuriate me so? Am I just averse to change? Am I jealous of other people's success in comparison to the way I wallow in my sadness and problems? I have most definitely developed an almost masochistic side of myself thanks to my depression: There is a measure of maniacal, psychopathic satisfaction I feel when convincing others that I am hopeless and impossible to save, doomed to be miserable. It hurts me too, though, perhaps more than it pleases...

After everything I've said (if anyone's still listening, that is...) this is probably going to sound stupidly ironic, but does anyone have any advice? I only ask because I wonder if anyone else feels the same way I do; that no matter how hard they try, they never seem to succeed. I want to hear your stories and experiences, see if you have any insight for me, or vice versa!

Crippling depression aside, I hope you're all having a nice day!
-Orphy

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Hi @Orphanim, how are you doing today?

S.

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Hello, @Sahara 🙂

I am doing well, thank you! Yesterday I got to see my brother for the first time in over five years; he's visiting from overseas. It was very fun to see him again. c: As for today, I just got back from having breakfast and reading the newspaper at the cafe and now I'm relaxing with some orange juice.

How are you? 😄

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Hi @Orphanim,

sorry that I have been away from the internet for a few days... I went to visit my Dad and you know- a long story.

That's really great that you got to see your brother! How wonderful.

Have you made any new plans and would you like to study something to do with art in the near future?

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@Sahara

No worries! c: I hope your visit to your dad was nice!

Yeah, seeing my brother was really lovely. It's all over now, though; he'll be heading back home soon. My other brother is in hospital too due to his own mental problems, though. 😞

I have no real plans. My intent is to do Open Foundation next year and take the art class offered. I should be signing up for it already but I'm stalling... I really really wish I could have more personal, one on one classes or something. Self-expression is something I'm really private about and it's hard for me to do art around other people, even my own family. Showing pieces I've made after they're done is easy, though.

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@Orphanim,

I'm sorry to hear about your other brother being in hospital... I think that would be really hard.

I was just thinking, that if you are in an art class, everyone would be focused on their own artwork and not exactly watching you work... so you might get used to this quickly. Just a thought. I would give it a go, if I were you.

I think you would always get the chance to take your work home and work on it after class, too.

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@Sahara

I applied for Open Foundation 2018 just yesterday. IIRC, there's an art class I can take in that, so that's my current agenda. I'm definitely going to give it all a go.

Thank you for your kind words and thoughts. c:

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That's great @Orphanim!

Well done. I am a great believer in education. I learnt so much at uni.... I really loved it. I did not begin my degree until I was 28 and I studied fine art.

You have plenty of time to prepare yourself, @Orphanim. Try to think of it as an interesting adventure. I really believe that nothing we do is a waste of time.... we are always learning, growing, meeting new people. Don't focus too heavily on the end results.

While I loved Uni and would do it all again in a heatbeat (in fact I am supposed to start my PhD soon), I never thought of my degree as the be-all and end-all of my life. I just lept thinking how lucky I was to be able to go to uni- to the have the opportunity that not everyone in the world has....

I'm sure you will be fine.

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@SaharaThat is sound advice. I just hope I can actually see it through to the end this time. Just now I got out my tablet, really wanting to do some drawing and maybe give painting a go, but I just can't figure it out. Nothing feels right to me, and I'm terrified of finding help on the internet.

There's a fellow artist I speak to from time to time who I've tried to reach out to for advice, but two moody artists trying to help each other just doesn't work. It doesn't help that they have absolutely no tact what so ever, so whatever feedback they give me crushes my will to live.

It's so hard to let the hours slip by when I could be working on the things I'm passionate about.

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Well, @Orphanim,

I think art is all about trial and error. You never know what something is going to look like until you try it. Then you learn from the artwork you have just made - the next piece you do will have elements of what you have just learnt from the last piece or art.

I think it's really important to get over the idea that each artwork you make has to become a finished piece- that it has to be completed. It might just turn out to be a "working drawing" (or "working painting" for that matter) that leads you on to your next idea.

So you might produce a series of drawings in one day, or one sitting, none of which are complete, but all of which contain variations on an idea. It doesn't matter if they aren't good enough to show anyone! You will have learnt something simply by doing them.

I think that with art- you just have to begin- you have to put in the hours. Some days will not necessarily be productive and then one day, bam, you nail something and you are off and running.... you will find you can produce a lot of new pieces very quickly.

I often just sift through images on Pinterest when I am stuck for ideas.

Does this help, @Orphanim?

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An artwork by one of my current favorite artists - Cy Twombly.

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