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Talking here because I don't know where else to go...

Talking here because I don't know where else to go...

I am so over feeling like shit. As soon as I start feeling a tiny morsel of normality, everything falls to shit again. I can't catch a break. People keep telling me that It will make me more resilient but I don't give a fuck about being resilient. I'm over it.

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@Evangeline
I know how you feel in regarss to not wanting to feel everything so much. The past few weeks have been particularly rough for me as well.
Life does this to us.
I forgot to see my psychiatrist last week.. silly of me really. But i guess that is part of all this hey?
Its good that you are seeing your psych. I have found forums are a good way to vent and speak about what is going on.
Sleep is crucial to our mental health. My sleep has been average lately too (might be adjusting to the weather idk). There are a variety of apps that can help too. Although i do try to eliminate screens an hour before bed, i dont always manage to.
It'd be cool to get to know you more so feel free to share as much or as little as you wish.
Take care now

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Thank you all for replying. As I said before, it means a lot.

I suppose my big struggle at the moment is that I have an opportunity to decide who I want to be and how I want to act, but nothing seems to fit. Do I want to be a classy and perfectionistic person? An affable and gentle person? An angry person who can’t be hurt? A funny and irresponsible person? I have the capability to be all of those people and more but I can’t decide which one is really me. I suppose the other way to look at it is 'who do I not want to be?' At the moment I just don't want to be me.

…god I’m such an angsty young adult haha! I read back on what I write and realise that I sound incredibly immature and whinny. Which I suppose I am in some ways but I don’t like to admit it. I want to be perfect.

@outlander, since my first post here (about a month ago), things have been very slow. As much as my BPD diagnosis was a big shock, I have found that exploring the diagnostic criteria, working closely with my psych, and paying more attention to my maladaptive behaviours has been helpful. I suppose in a positive light, if I was to have this week’s experiences a month or two ago, I would probably be back in hospital. This is the first time in a long time that I haven’t self-harmed after a traumatic event. I guess I can be proud of that.

@Former-Member, I’m in my final year of a double degree in nursing and paramedicine. It’s a very busy and grueling degree, but I loved it for the most part. It’s only been over the last two or three months that I don’t enjoy it anymore. I’m terrified of making mistakes and not being perfect. I’m scared of getting too close to people and seeming unprofessional. I’m scared that I won’t be able to deal with all the intense shift hours and having people be aggressive towards me. The deep zest and passion I used to have for this profession has disintegrated to practically nothing. I just can't seem to care anymore or see the good in people.

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Hi @Evangaline wow, doing a double degree in nursing/paramedicine sounds really tough. I just wanted to share with you that I've been a nurse for over 20years. All those things you worry about probably will happen- crazy shift hours, aggressive people, making mistakes, getting to close to patients. I've had it all and survived. You learn to laugh at the craziest things, you drink the crappy coffee to stay awake, you learn to sharpen your reflexes & call security stat for that drunk patient who's in your face for the 10th time who just wants a cigarette but he's got a mile long gash in his cheek from being glassed and it's not been stitched, you WILL mistakes with medicines (and probably more than once) and all these things you will learn from.

Some will scare you, some things will shock and surprise you, some things will make you cry. You aren't supposed to be perfect. All those factors (ie shift work, stressful, life-threatening illness & traumas) work against perfectionism. Buts it's ok. Because it's an amazing experience, fast paced, but you'll never stop learning. And even after 20years I still look things up that I know the answer to, because I want to be sure, or I'll ask my co workers what they think. And most of all I use my fine tuned instincts & knowledge to look at someone and say something is wrong.

Because you have BPD like me, even after treatment, you may remain hypersensitive (at at the opposite end of you, I had a break down at work, now getting treatment). Don't look at you hypersensitivity as a curse. You are beautiful, unique and can feel intensely about so many things other fail to see. That is a great gift to go into medicine with as you touch many people's lives. I wish you all the best hun.

I'm a perfectionist myself, I like everything to be just so, everything in its place. But I'm human, and the medical world isn't set up for perfection (consider that the whole world). So all you do is go along for the ride, do the very best you can, have boundaries in place so your feelings arent too hurt, and you can say no I can't do that occasionally. And enjoy your experiences, because there will be so many. People will always want to know about what you are doing.

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Wow @Sans911... I definitely needed to hear that.... I had to leave the room of people because I started crying reading that. I hope you don’t mind, but I copied your post into the personal notes on my phone so I can read it when I am down.

Thank you.

My challenge at the moment is gaining my confidence and passion back. When I started this degree, I hadn’t developed my BPD symptoms (was still very perfectionistic and had a few other MH diagnoses) and I was very uninhibited and was a star student (volunteered for every scenario, excellent grades, very optimistic and encouraging of others). Four years later and I feel as if I have been overcome by a darkness that has taken my zest away and I have become very jaded and negative.... I am hoping that this ‘darkness’ will lift as I move further out of this acute phase of my illness. In saying that, I am exhausted as I have been in a acute phase for a chronic amount of time (2 years) and am very rundown.

May I ask you if you have any coping strategies that you might be able to share with me, @Sans911? I feel as if I cpuld learn a lot from you. Thank you for taking the time to reply to me 😊

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nicely said @Sans911
and you sound like you a very passionate nurse @Evangeline
Its something I have considered myself actually, combining it with my international relations degree i feel like i would be able to work for WHO or similar.
One can dream I guess.
Hope you guys have a good day

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@Evangaline-wow, I'm glad it touched you hun. As I said in my post to you I'm much older, 47 actually, and I've been nursing sing I was 25yo. I was diagnosed with BPD 2years ago, and I'm in your dark place now too. I have chronic SI/SA/SH issues; the last year has been the worst. I'm waiting on a therapist through the public system because I can't afford a private one. I was doing DBT for 6 months, which I highly recommend, but you need a pyschologist trained in DBT to see/treat you weekly as dbt can 'unlock' a lot of your past, and you need to be able to process THAT & the DBT.

I didn't have that with my DBT, so I became so triggered after 7months,I could not keep going, and my DBT is on hold. But I still use some of the skills now.

There is a DBT thread just started by @Phoenix_Rising & @CheerBear. It might help to follow along.

My story if you're interested is under 'Stuck in a world of a world of sadness & SI'. Up to you if you want to read, but it might be triggering. I'm super struggling right now but at the same time, SANE has saved my life, and by focusing on helping others here, my struggles are a little easier to manage.

Get yourself a really, really good professional support network, people who don't judge you for your behaviour, validation is a big thing for people with BPD. Learn as much as you can about BPD, and learn about what triggers you, as that is a key to getting regulated & managing your life. And most of all, hang in there. It's a difficult time you & I are having, but get support here (I'm happy to support you or just talk about anything), get support from family & friends (Bpd is hard for them to understand) and support from professionals. Give yourself a break or breather sometimes. You can't be everything to everyone. Do something you enjoy most days. And don't forget to breathe lol!

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Yes, chronic suicidal ideation is an issue of time as well. It's hard to stay positive and motivated when you simply don't want to be alive.

I am very lucky to have a fantastic private psychologist who I see weekly. It's super expensive but I get some help from Centrelink and I just save up each week. I really struggle if I have to go a week without her support. We do lots of CBT, DBT, and schema therapy. I'm quite a self-reflective person, so DBT... I suppose it comes quite naturally to me.

I skimmed through the thread you directed me to - many things you said resonated with me. Especially you experience about being an inpatient and a nurse at the same time. I had a similar experience(forgive me if I am wrong and there aren't actually any similarities haha!) after my an inpatient stay in a hospital. 3 months after I was discharged I was working as a student nurse at another MH unit in the same hospital and it was horrible - some of the patients I was there to care for were fellow inpatients with me only 3 months earlier and some of the nurses who cared for me were now my colleagues. Very confusing stuff and I struggled a great deal with regulating my professionalism. I only lasted through 2 and a half days of placement before a meltdown... not a good look.... I don't ever want to do MH nursing. Much too triggering. Especially with people talking about SI and those suffering with anorexia.

I also identified with your desire not to overwhelm people, or 'bring them down.' I find that very difficult to. I struggle to recognise how much sharing with others is appropriate... I lost my two biggest support people this year because of that. I was always asking if they were okay and told them to tell me if they got overwhelmed... but it all fell apart.

Anyway, how are you doing @Sans911?

🙂

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Im glad your talking here @Evangeline ots hard when you have to do things on your own. Im glad you have outside supports though.

I have bpd as well so can reaonate with what both you and sans have been saying esp suicidal thoughts, hospitalisations and the thoughts or burdening others. I don't have much to add to the wise words of @Sans911 but know that i care ❤ and am here if you want to talk.
Also i remember in anothet thread u asked about my profession. Im a carer who is aged and has disabilities.

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Oops and forgot to add i wish you well with your chosen career as well 😊

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@Evangaline hey there, I missed seeing you around. Nice to see you back again. I'm going about life right now the same as always; struggling to continue on, yet faced with little choice. I am also quite self aware & reflective, which is more a hindrance for me than a help. My self reflection isn't kind.

I'm super pleased you have the support of a good pyschologist. That makes a world of difference to your treatment & recovery, and cost becomes less of a factor if the outcome is so positive. BPD is still stimagtised by many clinicians, so a good one is worth hanging onto.

I'm sorry your MH placement wasn't a better experience. I still remember mine from 20 odd years ago. It was horrendous. The ward was in a major Sydney hospital, they didn't know that I was coming and essentially threw me into a locked ward area as a novice nurse alone. And yes, I also had a meltdown after 3 days. Luckily, my repeat placement was in a tiny country town as an outreach mh worker, and my mentor was amazing. Now I can also value mh patients; always had softer spot for them in the harsh, crazy ED world but even more so now. I might go in mh nursing in some capacity later in my recovery.

Really nice to see you around again. Pop in and say hi anytime. I'm interested to follow your studies & if you have any nursing questions I'd be only to happy to help you.
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