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Let's do Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT)

Let's do Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT)

Good morning Forum Land,

So... @CheerBear @Zoe7 and I have decided to embark on an adventure of working through the DBT skills training manual together but not. That is, we all bought the manual at the same time, but we will probably work through it each in our own muddled puddled confuddled way. Consequently, who knows how this thread will end up looking. That's ok, that's why it's an adventure.

We would super love other Forumites to join us on this adventure if they want to. You definitely don't need to own the manual to join us, though if you want to, this is the book we are working from: DBT Skills Training Manual (second edition) by Marsha Linehan published in 2015. The manual has LOTS of worksheets in it, but happily, you can download those for free from this website: https://www.guilford.com/companion-site/DBT-Skills-Training-Manual-Second-Edition/9781462516995

It is important to be aware that this manual is not a self-help book. This is the manual designed to train therapists in how to deliver DBT to clients. Therefore, it can make for challenging reading at times. Personally, I find it hugely validating reading the way in which Linehan addresses the all-too-common negative and stigmatising attitudes that many mental health professionals have towards clients with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). However, others may find it distressing realising just how pervasive these attitudes can be across the mental health profession.

DBT was originally developed specifically to treat people with BPD. However, there is now a strong evidence base showing that is effective across a wide range of mental health issues. This is due to the core focus of DBT being on emotion regulation. DBT has also been shown to be effective in helping non-clinical populations manage their emotions. It may be of particular interest to some people in Forum Land, that DBT skills training has been shown to be effective in helping the carers of those with mental health issues cope with the challenges associated with that caring role.

As I said, I'm really not sure how this adventure is going to pan out...but we will never know if we don't try, will we! The manual begins with an introductory chapter outlining the theoretical basis for DBT. It has lots of nice little subheadings which breaks it up into easily manageable chunks. Thus I'm thinking @CheerBear and @Zoe7, that we could tackle the introduction based on these subheadings. Ideally I would love to do a little bit each day, but given the muddle that is my world, that is unlikely to happen. I expect it is far more likely that some weeks I will have a lot to say, and at other times, weeks may go by where I have nothing to say. I am guessing it will be the same for you...and that is a bazillion percent ok.

I superly duperly hope that some other Forumites decide to join us. But if not, that's ok too. I'm just as happy playing by myself.

And on that note, let the adventure begin...

Finding your way in the DBT adventure.

The following is a bit of a guide to navigating your way around what I anticipate will end up being quite a lengthy thread. The link will take you to the relevant page. Here in Forum Land, there are ten posts per page so you may need to scroll down a little way to find the actual post. The relevant headings are in large blue font to help you find them easily.

What is DBT? (This bit is on this first page so just scroll down).

Understanding Emotion Dysregulation

Are People With BPD Manipulative?

Accepting Our Emotions

The Consequences of Emotion Dysregulation

An Overview of DBT

Orientation, Goals and Guidelines

Pros and cons of learning and using DBT skills

Pros and cons of using DBT skills versus self-harming

Introduction to mindfulness

Mindfulness "What" Skills: Observe

Mindfulness "What" Skills: Describe and Participate

Mindfulness "How" Skills: Part One - Nonjudgmentally

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Hey guys, I can see that there is some tension happening here. Please take note that online communication can be difficult- without tone, body language etc words can easily be misinterpreted. Discussing therapies can hit so close to home that it is easy to feel criticized. It is important as part of a safe and inclusive community that we maintain respectful communication. During this time it can be useful to review our resource on managing conflict here:

If you have any questions please email us at: team@saneforums org

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Hello @Catcakes, @Winterz sending you both tender hugs

Hello @Phoenix_Rising, @Former-Member, @Appleblossom

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Why did you remove my post @Former-Member?

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Hi @Catcakes, just checking in over email about this 🙂

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Bloody SANE forum
Wrecked my night
@Former-Member
Why don’t you manage members comments when they’re offensive?

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Hi @Catcakes, sorry to hear that this has wrecked your night. Any concerns that you have about the forums or moderators need to be directed to us via email at - team@saneforums.org

So follow up with us there and we will get back to you.

Take care,

Tortoiseshell

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Hi Darcy,
I know what you mean. Speaking out vs being quiet. I guess it comes down to what's more important to you. Speaking your beliefs , making a stand or whatever and possibly being judged or disliked or something like that OR being the quiet , people pleaser that doesn't ruffle feathers...You say that external conflict resolution can come at a price but what about the flip side, the price you can pay for dealing with internal conflict and allowing it to possibly fester as opposed to just dealing with it through discussion.
Sure, it may not go to plan but that's just a risk you take I guess.

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@Former-Member
If you didn’t remove my post
@Winterz might know how to tag

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Thank you @Winterz It is complicated when threads meander all about the place with people responding to different phrases in the earlier posts.

For a change I was being relaxed and just saying it as it was and not trying to be a people pleaser etc.

They switched his Dx around to both hospitalise him and then eject him from the Emergency Dept. It was my pdoc who said he had the BPD label. I have not teared up for this brother for a while. He died in 1995. You are one of the few you has spoken to my grief for him. It just touched me and that was good. I know I still feel for him but can recover and am no longer overwhelmed.

Learning about the treatment helps me understand the problem. So its not just academic.

Edit - not sure why I keep acting this out - walking into situation of tension - being artless or thoughtless - and hoping that helps. trying to rescue a thread ???

Sorry everybody. Hope you work stuff out.

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@Appleblossom I am glad it helped to talk about him. I am here if you ever want to talk more about it. To me, Grief is probably the hardest thing in life to deal with. I lost my Mum at a very young age, so I understand the pain of grief. The hardest part is it doesn't just disappear either. I spent most of my life grieving...
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