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So sorry you had to see that @utopia It's awful how police treat mentally ill people... you wouldn't treat someone with cancer like that but they'll do it to someone with a mental illness. It's heartbreaking - I used to see it too when I was working in hospitals. Poor young kids forced to have ECT and strong sedation just because it was their psychiatrist's "weapon of choice". It's always been a real fear of mine to be hospitalised - I've avoided it so far. It's that power thing that scares me - how they can do things like that to people against their will and it's always their word against yours. There are some good staff but I remember how some of the younger psychologists straight out of uni would make jokes about patients in the staff room and laugh at their conditions. I wish things would change. I hope the rest of your day and night are calm... wishing you all the best.

Oh @utopia that is horrible. I would be crying too if I had seen that.

Hugs to you my friend, i am thinking of you

I am glad that you are staying in longer and not leaving yet.

BB xxxooo

@utopia I'm sorry you had to see that. What you saw is the sort of experience I've had dozens and dozens of times over the years. That is the sort of thing that is the reason why I say most of my trauma now is due to my experiences IN the mental health system and with the police. It is not necessary. It should be different. The fact that it happens shows a lack of training and skill in helping people in crisis. I couldn't even fully read what you wrote - far too big a trigger for me. It's not ok in any way. This is why I find it so distressing when people suggest I call 000 when I'm in crisis. Why on earth would I subject myself to further trauma like that!

@utopia - what a truly horrible thing for you to witness. Things like that must really add to the anxiety of both inpatients and staff. I wish I knew what the answer is - more funding? - better education?

I hope you have calmed down now and it hasn't set you back too much.

Everyone's situation is different but when I started seeing a psych I soon realised that as more and more stuff was uncovered, I could be stuck in therapy or worse for ever. Made a decision that it wasn't for me.

@utopia I am passionate about the idea of trauma informed care, and what you saw is a very good example of why to me, education and training in it can't come fast enough! I know that when I'm in severe crisis, people think I can't hear/understand them. But I do, and I have a LOT of icky memories of things that have been said to me and the way I have been physically handled by police etc. when I've been in that state. Those sorts of experiences have made my muddle oh so much more muddled.

I guess it just goes to show that we all need to keep working on changing the world - cos there's a LOT about it that needs changing!

@utopia It goes straight to my heart. Seen that stuff too often.

There is no excuse for the cruelty @Phoenix_Rising. Understand your resistance to the 000.

There is such a great range of personal attributes. Some have compassion and others have no idea.

Take care of you @utopia Glad you are getting Work Cover and a bit more time.

Hi @utopia - hope today is good for you. Bit hot and windy for walking outside but a good day for washing

Hi @utopia, so glad you are back home with some hope. One day at a time, keep it simple and be kind to yourself.

Waves Moongal x