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14th year house bound

14th year house bound

Hi Everyone,

I am new hear, after being removed from other mental health forums for my depressive thoughts i thought i would give this forum a try, this is my story.

I am 33 live with my mother, i am almost compeatly housebound, i leave my house once in the morning for a walk at 6am and maybe once during the week, both times i leave the house fill me with great anxiety, i have no friends, (the last friend i had was in 2001), i have never had a job, never had a girlfriend and never been able to leave my parents side, my father died in 2001 and i have always suffered seperation anxiety the last time i had a night away from home was 1994 for one night (parents had to pick me up at midnight because i was so frantic).

I have spent most of the past 14 years in my room, or the shed, never much out of the yard, no one in my town knows me, people stare and ask each other behind my back if any one knows who i am.

I have only had an income for the past year and spend the previous 7 with no income at all, mum had to use all of her life savings to allow me to live with her and she now has nothing.

I only want to live long enough to care for her in her old age and then i plan to take my own life, i knew from an early age my life would turn out like this, but had no idea how horrible it would be, every day is the same, i often wonder why i keep going, i have very little contact with family (maybe once a year) and i am really struggling to keep going.

Please don't feel distressed about what i am saying, and i am so sorry if i have offended anyone, it is just how i feel.

Their is so much more, but i will leave it at that for the moment, i am shaking and the anxiety is kicking in so thankyou for reading and i will add more later.

Jacques

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So I have read a lot of this thread and just wanted to be very rude and hijack it ( 😛 ) with my own experience. Sorry - I didn't want to start a new thread in case you didn't read it Jacques. I thought we might have a tiny bit in common. I apologise if we don't!

I grew up in a country town in Sth East Gippsland. It was just me and my mother. My mother was an alcoholic in my early years, however as I got older she graduated to b1nge drinking instead of drinking all day every day, however she still has something deeply wrong with her - I have no idea what it is, she refuses to seek help, to admit anything is wrong with her. Whatever it is, it doesn't allow her to feel distressing emotions like shame, guilt, fear, sadness etc. She always had to transfer the feelings to me in an effort not to feel them. For some reason, as soon as she transferred the bad feelings to me she instantly felt relief.

Unfortunately I walked around with all of her bad feelings on my shoulders weighing me down. As a result I was severely bullied all through out primary school and high school. Being victimised at home makes you a perfect target for the bullies of the outside world, as it turns out 😛 Other kids, molesters, abusers of all kinds can see it in you - they seek it out because I suppose they don't want to feel their bad feelings either and see in you a perfect vessel to put them into. Anyways.

When I was young and she was an alcoholic she felt like she had fucked up her life - and of course she didn't like that feeling, so she blamed me instead. It was my fault for not being born a boy, that's why dad left - my fault for being ugly, for being slow, for being stupid. I was the bane of her existence, the reason her life lacked meaning - the reason she never went to school and studied nursing, the reason she was stuck where she was - the reason she didn't have friends or interests. Taking care of me was so incredibly draining - doing even the most basic of things took up all her time and energy. She had none left over to touch me, to hug me, to kiss me - she deeply resented me and didn't want to 'love' me. Just cooking for me was agonising for her - she had to keep me alive but didn't really take any pleasure or pride in it like other mothers. She sent me to school with unbrushed hair, clothes from the op shop that had swear words on them, trousers with holes in them. Sometimes we didn't eat properly and I would go to school starving. Sometimes she beat me. I would go to school with bruises and have to say that I had 'walked into a door' or 'fallen over'. She would train me what to say.

She kept me very close, though, that is what is so confusing to me - she made me sleep with her until I was ten years old! I only figured out how abnormal this was after sleeping overnight at other people's houses, when I was finally allowed to. She used to keep the TV on all night and the electric blanket on really high, which I hated - I used to sweat and toss and turn with the excessive heat, the noise and bright lights. One day I wet the bed and she went ballistic - but finally bought me a bed of my own soon afterwards! Yay! I was so happy. I never wet the bed again 🙂

Finally having a bed of my own meant that I could go to bed when I wanted - in a quiet dark room, yeah! I could get some sleep and wake up rested for a change. But as I found myself drifting off to sleep she would wake me up, drunk, and drag me out of bed. She would sit me down at the kitchen table and lists the ways I had ruined her life. Sometimes she would get so worked up she would beat me.

Part of me wanted to keep the image of her sacred - the caregiver, pristine - and so I would agree - I was bad, I had ruined her life, why wasn't I better? Why wasn't I more lovable? Of course she couldn't kiss me and hug me and give me nice words - I was so awful.

But another part of me knew. That other part of me knew she was selfish. Knew she was weak. Knew she was a terrible, horrible person for doing this to me.

You could say this created two people - the first one the false self, the one who existed in her reality - the one who took blame and shame and guilt when there was no need to, in order to accomodate bullies and feel as though she deserved to be loved.

But then there was the real self buried layers underneath - the one that knew the world could be a terrible place, that it contained bullies who would unfairly try to make me feel what they didn't want to feel. The false self made this self feel bad for even existing! How dare I step out and say, hey, I deserved to have my mother's love, no matter what! What she did was wrong! I am not unlovable at all! The false self wanted me to stay meek. To stay weak. Because that meant the world really was good. And I did control things - I could control who hurt me and who didn't, by acting like a martyr - if I prostrated myself enough, people would 'love' me. If I allowed myself to be my real self, though - well, people wouldn't like it at all! They wouldn't 'love' me - they would reject me!

Anyways during highschool I found friends I could get along with - people in the same boat as me - with unfair pressures put upon them by their mother figure - we never really said it that way because we didn't know - I certainly didn't know at that point. We smoked dope and that really messed with me - it brought all of my fears to the foreground. I suppose I had a predisposition for paranoia and delusions - making up my own reality in order to avoid my fears, I suppose. Denying the truth to keep the mother figure and the world at large intact, pure, pristine. Forcing myself to be at fault to keep this image up.

My friends eventually left - to go to uni, to go off and get married. I was institutionalised twice. I lost touch with them - I was resentful that they left and I hadn't. I wanted to, desperately - but felt I couldn't exist on my own. Don't know why - although I think my mother kept reinforcing that belief in me. "How will you eat? You don't cook now. You don't clean, you don't work. You're too shy to go and get a job."

I was very shy. I had no confidence. I was my false self - people walked all over me. People would drive past my house and yell things out. If I walked to town, people would slow their cars down and wind the windows down and yell things at me. People in the supermarket of my small town would comment on me as though I was some kind of zoo animal that they had the right to judge - "She has no personality what so ever. What the hell is wrong with her?" Or, "What a dull girl." Things to that effect which of course just made me feel worse. When you already feel bad the world just has this way of making it worse doesn't it!

When dealing with psychiatrists and psychologists and psych nurses and the like, my mother was always there, on the periphery, with helpful comments such as, "Well, she always was quiet," or "She always did throw tantrums," or "She always this, she always that." Now that I look back it makes perfect sense! Of course she wanted me to be ill! Because that would mean she hadn't been the world's worst mother! She would be absolved of all blame! It's not my awful, loveless, terrible mothering, no! My child is the problem, not me! So she kept me sick!

She encouraged it. She reinforced it. But like I said, part of me always knew, the real self, buried deep; it would whisper to me - she's wrong. There's nothing wrong with you. She's wrong.

At 25 I couldn't take it anymore - we started to fight A LOT. I was terrified, I can tell you - but I did it - even though I had never had enough confidence to go and get a job, and even though I was terrified of people, I saved up enough money to move out.

I had begun to speak to people online in forums (like this one) and on IRC - and I forged some friendships with people - I started to meet them on a monthly basis, talk on the phone, get to know them - and finally to ask them for help.

They never made me feel bad, or worthless, or ashamed; they allowed me to be my real self. They never put their feelings on to me unfairly. And they were supportive - they said I would have a place to stay if I needed it, for as long as I needed it. They were kind. They were there for me.

At 25 I saved enough money and I moved the fuck out of there. For me. Selfishly! I hated that damn town, I hated the stupid rumours, I hated people treating me like shit for no reason other than that they thought they could and I loved the big, anonymous city! I never had to feel small again - there were so many people in Melbourne, so many different kinds of people - poor people, old people, young people, disabled people, smart people, kind people - I could just blend in. Walk around, go where I wanted to.

Eventually I got a job delivering pizza - hey, I'm not gonna lie it was hard - I still had my online friends but no confidence - it took me ten years to get confidence! But I finally have some! Anyways I found it hard to make friends, sure - and the pay from delivering pizza was below minimum wage as I was a contractor, but I felt hopeful. I had panic attacks - every night - and I cried sometimes at work. Some people were kind, others were awful. That's the world, though. At least I had a chance. People noticed me - some noticed how awkward and stupid I seemed - clumsy, tripping up, stammering - others thought it was actually kind of sweet and took me under their wing. It was nice.

Anyways Jacques - I'm 34 now. I suppose I could still be in that awful, horrible town. But still at 34 I could move to the city and find a place to stay in a sharehouse, get a job as a pizza delivery woman. I could do it at 44, at 54.

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I can accept that you are an enigma .. a complex human with lots of contradictions battling for supremacy inside you.That is also your energy

Some of the other things you say about yourself I cannot agree to.

I hear you that you have a lot of anger ... my GP last week said I would hate the world for what I have been through ..... but I have been so conditioned in the christian love ethic that I just struggle endlessly with myself. Though sometimes it flares up ... I can understand why suicide bombers do what they do ... and was not offended by 9/11 .. if people are so insular and only care about their immediate circlle with ridiculously high living standards and dont care about social justice... then that is a form of natural justice. ... not politically correct .. but I have empathy for the young kids ... etc I understand the horrible waste of it and hate radicalising clerics who use the young for violent acts ... but why are the young educated girls going to Syria .. cos mainstream western sociaety isnt all its cracked up to be.

I am not sure about the events that stopped you engaging with the world, and respect your privacy. I was told by professionals to express my anger and myself safely and respectfully and it would be alright ... but it hasnt really been alright ... people cant cope with my experience ... I ws very careful and tried not to be destructive like my brother .. I am motivated in a positive way to help others in a less fortunate position, but I am no longer sure about any right way to proceed. ... one 50yo refugee I helped wrote away for gold from home to get real estate in a better part of town ... and was very immature, snobbish just wanting to wear sexy western clothes ... oh great .. and I am for the boat people..

I used to feel that way about being left out of the life of having fun and not having caring people in my life .. but I have learned to laugh a lot more ... recently ..so I am letting good feelings into me and that helps.

I feel I have wasted a lot of time too .. but what you are doing at home and on the forums is so often good ... let good feelings and laughter into your being ... that can work its own magic ...

I promise I will argue with you ...or "thought challenge" some of the things you say about yourself .. we can have a virtual fisticuffs ... with you screaming you are bad and me yelling you are not...but we have to save that sort of things for when we have spare energy.

Go gently

At the moment I am sad about @kenny66's news ... but hope he benefits when we hear from him next.

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Jacques let me tell you something from my personal experience.

I have found that it is not necessary to go into your past with a therapist. I did that for years and nothing changed. About four years ago i was referred to a psychologist and i really didn't want to go.

. She helped me in a way I had never been helped before.Her focus was the here and now Namely my social phobia and general anxiety. She gave me practical help, to help lesson the symptoms.. To a an extent I have more control over my anxiety. Its not the be all and end all. Its like any health condition I can be good for a while , then I relapse a bit. But I have the tools now, that I didn't have before.

I think Hidenites suggestion is a good one. I know its a huge decision for you, but you have more courage that you think you have. You make it to town once a week. You had the electrician in your home and assisted him.

Just one more thing, before you go to your GP write out everything in a clear way. If you need to you can hand him the piece of paper. (wouldn't be the first time I've done that) Get your mum to help you if it makes it easier.( A therapist that is experienced in DBT and ACT would be great)

You and Hidenite never cease to amaze me with your courage, and perseverance with all that you go through. Im glad that you have each other as close friends

Hope you dont think im telling you what to do, just sugestions

Chris

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Wow @DefiantPanda,

What a powerful story, can i first start off by saying i am so sorry you had so many terrible experiances from so many people, it makes me feel very ashamed of carrying on the way i do, i had a very nice home life, my parents where always good to me, but no physical affection, i was always treated like an adult, i have only experianced horrible things by other people.

i was reading every line carfully, your story, i can't understand how you can be so positive towards life after your experiances, i am just unable to do that, i am so bitter and angry at anyone who did me harm, the rage i feel is so overpowering sometimes.

I am so glad you managed to find some friends, find a job and a new home, a safe home. @DefiantPanda you are a perfect roll model for other kids who had a rough upbringing, i wish you well into the future, i know you will make a great mum some day if you so choose, you will have a loving family of your own.

Take care Be kind to yourself

Jacques

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Hi @Appleblossom,

I will have to be careful how i answer this, with my current mood, i agree with you, i am a big anonymous and wikileaks follower, seeing what us westerners have done around the world makes people like pol pot, Adolf Hitler, stalin, look like angels, if the public knew what attrocities where being done in our name, and for our "standard of living" they would and should be horrified.

@Appleblossom, i feel so sorry for poor people, i have struggled, i have been their, in some ways i am still their, emotionally, socially, poor people seem to be societies "punching bag" a way for society to feel better about it's self. As my attage always says "A person is smart, but people are dumb" still stand unfortunatly crowds can be so stiupid, and sometimes with disasterious consequences i.e. the war in Iraq.

@Appleblossom, you are so sweet, thank you for being my friend, yes i am worried about @kenny66 too, my uncle had bowel cancer 20 years ago, is is going really well, fit as a fiddle, i am sure @kenny66 will be fine, with his outstanding out look on it all, he will respond well to treatment.

Take care, Be kind to yourself

Jacques

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@Jacques I wasn't trying to make you feel bad... Just trying to tell you that you can move on with life when you are ready to at any age. You needn't think of time as having been wasted... Anyways. I wish you all the best.

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Thank you @Chris,

I know you are right, as well as @Appleblossom, @hiddenite, i am just so exhausted, i am sick of fighting and i am to scared to let go of my anxiety and depression, i have bee nalone for so long now i don't know if i want to become part of society again, i don't know if i could handle the stress of having friends again.

Thank you for your words of encouragement and reaching out to me, it is much appreciated.

Take care, Be kind to yourself

Jacques

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Hugs @Jackques,
All of these people know something! That you deserve more from life. And i also think that the world is missing out with you being a ghost. You have so much to offer, so much understanding. The rage is ok, the rage can be fuel. And you can learn how to manage it without anyone needing to understand the reason for it.
LJ

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I like @Former-Member turn of phrase that the rage can be the fuel ....

I didnt see your post before @DefiantPanda ... and all I can say is you are so clear and brave ... and i love your name. We also had very similar relationships with our mothers (though I was oldest of 5) and I never regretted leaving home. Thanks for sharing.

I have seen first hand how horrible and narrow minded small country town people can be ... my last GP was the first Aussie male who actually admitted they can be xenophobic. It made me trust him as I had been hurt a lot by a country fellow in my first relationship. yet I also love many things about the country .... sad about the bigotry.

I dig when I am angry ... my foot can jam down on the shovel and it barely feels like work ... its often my most efficient gardening time.

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Thank you @Former-Member & @Appleblossom,

You are both kind, caring souls, you are both wise beyond your years.

Jacques

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