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Recovering from severe chronic anhedonia

Recovering from severe chronic anhedonia

I've been having chats with @AuntGlow @Jynx and @rav3n about my experience of chronic severe anhedonia and how the traditional 'behavioural activation' has not produced the pleasure/reward stimulation (even when sustained for 20 years of doing!).

So I decided to start a thread because I've come to realise this is a bit more common with complex/chronic depression that I realised, and a discussion around it at a general level might be interesting & helpful to others too -- both intellectually and/or practically 😊.

I invite people to share their personal experiences (postive and negative; what has and has not worked for them or people they know), as well as interesting articles or research, or treatment perspectives that relate to the topic. 😊. I am very much a believer that "one size does not fit all" and hence welcome the diversity of experience and advice without judgement.

To kick it off, a link that @AuntGlow shared to me which I found resonated with me a lot when explaining the challenge with severe anhedonia (as opposed to 'traditional' anhedonia which does respond to standard behavioural activations techniques), and some ideas on what might help people to start that process of being able to recognise and experience neutral and progressively positive things again.

https://yung-sidekick.com/blog/severe-anhedonia-a-somatic-and-behavioral-protocol-for-rebuilding-the-capacity-for-reward

I found it very interesting also to read in a research article (https://www.clinicalkey.com.au/#!/content/playContent/1-s2.0-S2213158222000559) about the link between what is clinically termed 'treatment-resistant-depression' and a higher activity level in the part of the brain that processes/encodes adverse or negative stimuli and a diminished sensitivity to the reward-stimuli (this is when compared to "treatment-sensitive-depression" and 'healthy control' patients). So potentially it could be physiological, and "trying harder" may not work if our brain is literally not processing the positive/reward stimuli!

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@AuntGlow Yes looking forward to it too. I know the peer support workers are going on break. When do you return?

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I think my next shift will be on the 7th! @Cuddlebear 🫶

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@AlwaysMyself Hello my friend. How are you feeling today? I just wanted to wish you the best the day can bring. I know you have people over and I hope you can find some enjoyment and a peaceful day.

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Merry christmas @Cuddlebear (and others reading also 😊).

Yes, currently out at family lunch. Very tiring for me - physically when helping set up and also mentally with the noise and trying to keep my grandma in the conversation so she doesn't feel left out (harder for her to hear with lots of noise).

Taking advantage of a trip to the loo to "breath and calm" before i head back to the noisy table. 😵‍💫

Niece and nephew both liked their gifts, so that was good. Grandma also.

Looking forward to a few hours time when i get to go home and rest / sleep.

...i hope my dogs haven't destroyed anything! 😅

On the upside, if i never enjoyed family gatherings... its not anhedonia causing my lack of enjoying it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@AlwaysMyself I’m glad you are out at family lunch I know they are noisy and exhausting too. I love how you include your grandma. Do you have a bon bon hat on? I find those quite funny.

So glad everyone liked their presents. I think you’d be pretty good at picking just the right thing from Everuthing I know about you. Did you get anything today?

I too hope the dogs have not destroyed everyrhing. Hopefully they are napping while the humans are out.

Yes you’ll be able to have a very good rest once you get home. You made me laugh re not enjoying family gatherings but not due to anhedonia also funny you are typing in the loo!

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thinking of you lots @AlwaysMyself

reading this reminds me of my husband , so this year we have stayed home

I have had lots of phones calls and text messages but apart from that a quiet relaxing day with nothing worth watching on tv so it is yourtube videos to watch

@Cuddlebear , @Flutterbug9

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I haven't been good at jotting down how I feel to track it. It felt like every time it was some variation of "sad" or "apathetic".

I give myself options - Do I want to paint, or a phone-game? Do I want music or a podcast?

It's not hard to make those decisions, but I don't feel anything from doing them. They help pass time and keep my brain from wandering.

I am tired from putting in effort to life. But this past week of no-pressure has been good for not feeling exhausted. I've been able to be on the forum a little more some days, or do a little painting. I've been able to help my family member with their garden on 2 occasions.

...but it doesn't make me feel better. I feel a slight "good" from knowing I have helped with the garden, but it's fleeting and knowing that it didn't make much impact for them dulls the "good"ness. But I know I did a good thing to show I care and wanted to help them, even if I couldn't do it for long at a time. 1% help is better than 0%.

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