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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thanks @Shaz51 *hugs*

Shift change-over, eh. Makes sense around 4pm/5pm given the 10pm end of night shift.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

very hot and humid here again @AlwaysMyself

aircon on here

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Is there any cooler temperatures predicted for you any time soon @Shaz51 ?

On our hot days last week we had about 15% humidity -- it was so dry.

Yesterday was so nice and cool, nearly needed a jacket sitting outside in the mild breeze. Today is much warmer though, but still under 30 thankfully. Tomorrow will be a bit over 30, but slowly getting cooler again each day this week - which is good since Thurs/Fri is my "busy days" that I am usually out in the car (not at home in aircon).

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thanks @MissGremlin . Not sure what to say. It's one of those wordless funk moods.

My mother's friend has left, so I may talk to her at some stage. Not sure. She if she asks how I am or if I want to do anything. I don't want to over-social her, since she's just had a visitor for a few hours.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

our humidity goes to like 90% @AlwaysMyself

summer up here is always hot

winter is nicer xx

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself those wordless funk moods are annoying, ugh. But you're not alone, we are all here with you ❤️

Have you done any of your painting?

I set up my cross stitch earlier and was going through a book to look for patterns but that's as far as I got 😂.

I just made dinner though, it's bolognase tonight.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I did a bit of painting earlier, before joining my mother & her friend briefly. But not since then. Been trying to distract myself by reading things on the forum. It's helped keep things at bay temporarily.

@MissGremlin @Shaz51

I know I am keeping an open mind and willing to try PAT and time off work for the sake of people who don't want me to die. But I also feel fatigued of holding onto hope or trying to believe that something might change. I don't even know what "different" feels like. It's trying to imagine something I have no concept of. So I try not to try to imagine, because that can just be disheartening. I try to just think "not apathy"; that is easier to understand.

I will hold on and give it a try to see if things improve. It's just that I don't feel like it; I don't currently want to. I just want to cease.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself glad you did some painting earlier today and using the forums as a distraction is good.

Oh i hear you sweetheart and honestly it's like you took these words straight out of my head. I don't feel like I'm living for myself but only for the sake of others and it's exhausting (I'm safe). I can relate to not knowing what different feels like cos things have always been like this, how is that suppose to change and what would that even feel/look like.

I'm sending the biggest hugs your way sweetheart, i really do get how you are feeling and I know how hard it is. I'm here with you though and we'll keep taking one little step at a time ❤️

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I will hold on and give it a try to see if things improve. It's just that I don't feel like it; I don't currently want to.

----- so proud of you @AlwaysMyself and you are not alone my friend

even though sometimes you feel you are alone ( I have felt this for myself too )

sitting with you and lots of others are sitting with you too my awesome friend

@Till23 , @Cuddlebear , @Flutterbug9 , @MissGremlin , @Chasingsunsets , @Ru-bee , @AuntGlow

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@MissGremlin it's like... how can I feel want for something if I don't even know what it is?

It's not that I ask myself that question, or intellectualise it; it's like a rhetorical question my emotion says to me. And it makes sense.

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