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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AuntGlow I ate a piece of sushi last night. After paying bills I now have $20 for next 8 days. Feeling very rubbish at the moment.

How are you?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear today was OK for me overall. I think i have finished painting our Totoro today, except for a gloss varnish to protect it.

Knees and back sore now though.

Silly girl dog also went in the pond twice today, so i had todry her paws both times when letting her back in. :face_with_rolling_eyes:. Male dog is barking a lot tonight. Driving me and mum crazy with their noise.

I'm sorry to hear the finance is very very tight (understatement!) this week/month. Is there a food pantry near enough to you that you can get some foods and other supplies from?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Good evening @AlwaysMyself! 💛

All of what you have shared is SO interesting. And in some ways, I can relate to it - that sense of disconnect. Sometimes I feel like it's because I am so incredibly sensitive that I can take in everything all the time and then fall flat - because the constant adjusting to people can be exhausting. I know we touched on masking, so I am curious to know if that resonates? Overall, I do sense that your mind and body are falling into what is energetically familiar (like all of ours do, so you're not alone). I suppose the next question is, how do you rewire that in a way that doesn't create more burnout or pressure?

Does the idea of experimenting sit lightly with you?

Actually, there is a great instagram account by a ND person who talks about the ideas of self-experimenting! I feel like you'd resonate: https://www.instagram.com/selfexperimenting/?hl=en

Knowing that 1-1 connection sits better for you is great information to have - let's hold that in our awareness. (I am the exact same by the way!).

Within this them of curiosity... could you try to sit with what happens in your mind and body after the 'mild-excitement' comes up? I think noticing what comes after will give us more clues!

Hmm, I wonder if there is a dopamine element to this too?

Also, how do you feel connecting here? You are very consistent with it and very giving with your time and energy. There is no right or wrong answer - just information gathering... consider me your virtual psyche detective. 🕵️😂

Thank you for this update! I really hope you can be a part of the trial. Some of these alternative medicines can be so amazing and allow you to access parts of yourself more deeply, intimately, and safely. 🥰

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

That would be so, so hard @Cuddlebear. 😔

Have you looked at AskIzzy for any crisis support services who may be able to help with food? You absolutely deserve support right now, so please let me know how you go.

https://askizzy.org.au/

I am well. Just thinking about how we can support you right now. 💛

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning


@Cuddlebear wrote:

@AlwaysMyself @AuntGlow Hello lovely how are you? Did you get some painting done?

Im feeling really bad today. I’m so scared and alone. Very emotional crying and nothing brings any comfort. I keep thinking I’m worthless and totally unloved. Nowhere to turn to no one to go to. Panic attacks and frozen. Can’t do anything. I’m sorry I’m lumping it here. I thought you might understand and not be upset with me.


To add: I know your mind is saying you are worthless and unloved, but we really care about you and value your presence so much.

Please turn to us whenever you need, okay? You're never too much and you're always welcome.

You are right, we do understand and we aren't upset at all. 🥰

@Cuddlebear @AlwaysMyself @Flutterbug9 @Shaz51

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey there @AlwaysMyself I just wanted to say a big thankyou for including me in your update with Doctor, I hope to reply soon, but did want to just check in as I’m not on the forum as much as I’d like but have been thinking about how you have been going 🫶


Take care my friend 🙏

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thinking of you @Cuddlebear, Auntglow really covered everything so well in her post to you, I do hope you feel you can reach out here whenever you need🙏

I have really loved our chats and value your presence on the forum my friend, thanks for everything 🩵

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thinking of you lots 💓 @Cuddlebear , @AlwaysMyself , @Chasingsunsets

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Hello my friend. How are you? How’s your back and knees feeling? Totoro is looking marvellous. You’ve done a purrfect job of painting him. Thank you for including me.

Fur baby wanting a little swim in pond by soubds of it. They are cheeky sometimes. I hope the barking did stop. Did you get some sleep?

Yes all utilities came at once plus rent. I have not purchased anything for Xmas other than a small gift for my daughter.

There’s no food pantry close by for me. I’d need a car and my support worker wasn’t available much so couldn’t get there. I have her next on Friday. But food places arnt open 😞 It’s ok I have bread, some cheese slices and noodles to eat until my next pay. I’ll manage.

Are you busy today? Wilbur woke up with an ear infection. Trying to find a way to get him treated.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Caring hugs to you and Wilbur @Cuddlebear .

Just going into my counsellor now, will proper reply after. Sending hugs in the mean time.

I love sliced cheese.

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