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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Ru-bee Hello lovely. I’m safe I’m holding on. My brain is so mixed up with feelings that I’m just nothing. I am lonely and I’m so grateful for the forum community.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Well, I'm very glad that you can lean on the community in times like this @Cuddlebear 💛

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @Cuddlebear , i am here now if you are still?

I am so so so glad you reached out (the very opposite of "upset").

Holding you with me through your thoughts.

Holding onto the love your daughter has for you, and the friendship love I and others here have for you also. You are worth care. You are worth life. Things will improve (as you said yesterday to Dreamy) and there will be better days - even if today feels horrible.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear happy pics

 totoro in progress

 

While i was out this morning my girl dog stole a tube of paint (and another item) to chew. I think i will need to decant this paint into one of those new paint tubes i bought! Else it may dry up from the small holes she made with her teeth.

Yes, please laugh or smile at my annoying 3 year old dog. I can also laugh at it while i shake my head. She can be such a pain sometimes!

I was only gone for 2.5 hours!

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Here for you @Cuddlebear and holding you in my thoughts. Sounds like a tough day for you today.

Hang in there. You are not alone. Could physically doing things possibly help? Help keep those thoughts away and also fill in time?

im heading out soon for few hours.

Once Im back I will drop in.

happy to chat, about anything 💜

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself I’m trying to have some fruit before heading out for couple hours. I say trying as I’ve got a cat in my lap.
When 6kg cat decides it’s nurse time I give in to him

Hope me giving into my cats makes you smile.

that could end up expensive chew toy.

wonder what about the tube of paint was so tempting.

cat we had when I was preschooler liked baked beans with cup of tea on the side.

please forgive me as I can’t remember, what breed of dog do you have?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Aww lovely kitty @Flutterbug9 nice to have an affectionate one.

One of my dogs (the fluffy male) is sleeping next to me on the couch. My cheeky 3yo female is sleeping on the other couch.

They are very big dogs (tall). One is purebred borzoi (girl), the other is a borzoi-cross.

Im on my phone, but there are some photos on my profile i have posted. (I dont share them widely, as theyre abit distinctive, but i do on a few threads quietly 😉)

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Someone looks comfy laying on their side in the sun, in front of the pot plants. 🐶

Both my cats have distinctive markings @AlwaysMyself

both enjoying sitting in windows on front wall of my place hence am cautious where I share photos of them

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Lovely spot for the cats @Flutterbug9 !

Totallt understand that caution - when i used to walk the dogs around the shops at my old apartment, sometimes people would say "oh, i've seen your dog before. Does he sleep on the balcony?" 😅 and yep thats the one on his side in the sun. He's pretty distinctive as a cross-breed (esp his face because of borzoi nose). And sometimes people would be confused because they'd met my dogs before, but with my (then) partner walking them not me, but they knew it must be the same 2 dogs lol. None others like them in the region haha.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself How are you lovely? Did your day go well? Thank you. I appreciate the love from you and others here. The friendships have been an absolute life saver.


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