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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Hello lovely I am so pleased you did so well with GP.

You did well having a list with you and I am so happy for you thwt he listened and understood. Do you feel some relief knowing that you are able to get the medical certificates and that he better understands how you feel?

Really happy to hear this news.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Yes, i feel some relief for sure. 😊

How are you feeling today @Cuddlebear @

How does it rate compared to yesterday?

What do you have for lunch today?

(I just realised its after lunch time, whoops. I gues im not hungry because i drank some milk.. with coffee flavour of course)

In response to: Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Well done my @AlwaysMyself 😊

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear i just read your post to Dreamy. Just wanted to say i found it really encouraging what you said, and trying to also think of it with regard to myself re: the opportunities for purpose/meaning in our online friendships here too. 🤗

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Thank you. 🙂 I really hold Dreamy and you close to my heart. 💜

We are going to walk this path all together and we are going to experience the joy in life again. It takes time for most of us a long time like not a week or month. But you see what we’ve formed here is real. This is the most honest and supportive friendship. We understand one another despite not having met F2F. I really think this is one of the real strengths of the internet. Here we can find our tribe. Our people. Real friendships. Whilst the internet has many issues the things it does well can change lives for the better forever.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself I’ve had a long day with numerous things going wrong. I still have not eaten anything which I need to do. How are you tonight?

Still catching up on posts as well. I will respond to yours tomorrow and also give some lived experience tips re the tapering. I’m just so glad your GP had listened and validated. That’s a huge step forward.

I am really tired and need something to eat before I take the night sedative.



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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I'm doing OK tonight @Cuddlebear , which is a nice change from lately. 😊

Welcome to talk about what's gone wrong today if you'd like (and no time pressure to respond either).

I hope you find something nice to eat, and i hope the night sedative kicks in and helps you get a good sleep. 😴

I'm doing some painting of our Totoro this evening.

In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I am so glad you felt supported by your GP, that must feel like a huge relief to have someone listen and meet you with realistic optimism. @AlwaysMyself 💛

How are you @Cuddlebear? I have been thinking of you.

Could you eat something small before your medication? Like a piece of fruit of bread? 🫶

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself @AuntGlow Hello lovely how are you? Did you get some painting done?

Im feeling really bad today. I’m so scared and alone. Very emotional crying and nothing brings any comfort. I keep thinking I’m worthless and totally unloved. Nowhere to turn to no one to go to. Panic attacks and frozen. Can’t do anything. I’m sorry I’m lumping it here. I thought you might understand and not be upset with me.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @Cuddlebear I just wanted to check in because I'm hearing how hard things are feeling right now and what a lonely place that is to be. Firstly, I just wanted to check whether you're feeling safe with all of these thoughts and feelings right now?

I know that you're feeling like you're alone and you can't do anything but look, you've reached out here and that's not nothing - you've taken a step to feel more supported and connect with the community and that's no small task. If you're able to do that what else might you be able to do?

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