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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Mostly cakes @Chasingsunsets . I liked to test out new recipes. Esp ones that had "healthier" ingredients or one for different dietry/allergy needs. That way i'd have ones to cater for friends' needs. They also tended to have more interesting ingredients and often curious how it would turn out

...they wouldnt always work out well. Thats ok though. Some were great.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

That’s awesome @AlwaysMyself I love how you’re adventurous and willing to risk it for a nice different type of cake!!
Did you like watching Masterchef?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I'm not much of a tv person, @Chasingsunsets , and find "reality tv" style most difficult - they drag everything out and hype it up (or harsh), and repeat things so much.

However, i would probably happily read their recipes and photos of what they make.

However i don't really go for "fancy" food or decorative plating.

I do appreciate sugar-art and cake-decorating as a skill or "craft" though. To me its just using edible things instead of inedible things for creative art 😅. Play with food that is allowed.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Oh fair @AlwaysMyself there is a lot of dramatising, I can’t watch my kitchen rules. But yeah I actually dont watch much tv at all really.

what’s on for your evening?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Ironically, having just said i don't like tv much, i have put an episode of Bones on in the background (looks like i havent seen season 12 yet, which is on Disney) because i was painting on the gloss layer to my little sanrio plaster i painted. But i finished that glossing a bit ago, so now I'm at a loss again.

I could go to bed early - if only i could fall alseep. But i think i'd end up stewing mentally if i did, and if i put on a podcast i dont think i'd be able to focus on it.

I do feel a bit less down though. More of a resigned glum now. Thank you for chatting with me @Chasingsunsets , its been a good distraction.

I dont have the emotional energy to read and respond to people's posts seeking help right now, although i can see an interesting one that sounds like burnout fatigue possibly. Quite topical of late.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I am glad to hear a chat has helped @AlwaysMyself.


I think it’s very fair re taking some time out for yourself and focus on you and powering up your batteries. I have started to do the same.

Oh bones I think I have heard of it, what’s it about again? I am looking forward to some updates on your plaster 😊

I have to head off the forum now for a bit, might catch you later? Always so lovely chatting to you @AlwaysMyself thanks for chatting with me! 🫶

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Enjoy your evening @Chasingsunsets , and no pressure over the weekend - i know you have a busy run coming up.

Bones is a crime-drama. The early episodes were by far the better ones. Always has some comedy in it.

Here's the glossy finished plaster now. Also for @Cuddlebear

 

 

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

They look spectacular @AlwaysMyself like I would buy those at a store!!

Never seen Bones, but I love Nathan Fillion from Firefly!! Maybe I need me a new show to watch hehe 😋

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Thanks @Jynx . If i could sell them for the cost of the plaster item it would be good way to asume myself with minimal cost (paint isnt expensive). Hoping i may be able to make my own plaster moulds and then make my own plasters to be cheaper. (But plaster of paris is pretty weak to chipping, so ideally id prefer a better plaster mix.)

Nathan Fillion is a good actor. Ive seen a few shows and movies he's in. Firefly was the first of his that i saw.

How's the evening going? Still going through tags from earlier in the week i'm guessing?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @Shaz51 , what's this evening like for you?

I know you've been having a challenging time with your ongoing health as well as your hubby's decline in MH lately. *hug*

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