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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Yes that's right @AlwaysMyself flooding rains with a leaky roof back then. Now bushfires. Living in Australia is interesting in more ways than one!

I hope you have been going well and your back is not too bad. It's good that you were able to help out your mum in the garden. Remember not to overdo it!

Your painted figurine is great it looks like it could be a good thing to do to get into a kind of flow state and do more than just distract yourself but actually settle your thoughts

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hi @AlwaysMyself 🫶, just on briefly, wanted to check in! How’s your evening going? I loved the painting you posted earlier!! 🤩

I wasn’t sure what posts you would like to be tagged in at the moment so only just tagged you in dreamy’s page the silly sock one that you said you liked 💚

Big hugs and hope to be on the forum more soon 🙏

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Hello my friend. How are you? How was work today?

I really like your mum. I love how she’s there for you and that you have someone who cares at home. Yes I agree the difference in having someone who actually cares and is there for chats and company makes a huge difference. You deserve it and I’m sure you also provide her with love and company too.

My daughter lives far from me and due to finances we can’t see each other often. I’ve always had a close relationship with her. However, as her mum I also try not to burden her with my mental illness at the moment. She’s only in her very early 20’s and her grandmother (my mum) died by suicide which greatly impacted her and me. Hence, I just can’t put her through this too. She’s young and I don’t want to cause her distress. She knows I’m unwell but doesn’t know the severity. I love her with all my heart and soul and want to try and protect her.

How are you feeling today after the garden work? I know you live with pain and I really hope you are not in severe pain today. It’s so good you were able to enjoy some gardening together. That’s the sort of stuff life is all about. I’m also thrilled that you are ok with her helping financially. I really am and it will make a huge difference not having to worry and being able to focus on more recovery.

Love your painted figurine it’s something I’d pick up to paint! We have the same taste in this stuff!

Ps Support button not working for me again!

In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Good evening! @AlwaysMyself

How are you feeling today?

I am going to respond to your message first thing tomorrow afternoon, but just wanted you to know so I am not leaving you hanging! 🫶

Also, hello @Cuddlebear, how are you lovely? Thinking of you. 💖

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Its amazing my support button has been workinf again this evening for me! @Cuddlebear @Chasingsunsets @Till23 🤭

Thank you @Chasingsunsets 😊 still getting through my backlog of tagged post emails due to being on less the past week or so lol. I'm up to "2 days ago" posts 😅.

I'm feeling better after discussing the situation with my mother and her continued offer for financial support next year whilst i dont have an income.

@Cuddlebear ah, i forgot your daughter lived far away. That makes sense. I'm sorry, I didnt know (or forgot) your mum passed from suicide. *hugs* i can understand how that could trigger fear and worry in her for your wellbeing also.

I hope you know you are loved and cared for unconditionally here, and its totally safe and OK by me for you to share those thoughts here - no matter how dark your thinking may get sometimes. I know you are battling and you're putting your all into making it through every day despite the anxiety and depression and loneliness and physical challenges too. I admire how you are trooping through, and I am so hopeful for the symptoms to begin to settle a bit for you to give you even a tiny bit more relief each day/week.

@Till23 oh dear my brain has now melted 😆 because i read your post first, so now i have forgotten what i was going to say.

I know the bushfires are currently quite concerning, thinking of you and your safety with them. I remember feeling nervous about the Jan 2020 bushfire that came very close to my place, we were on alert for possible evacuation at any time if the winds changed direction.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Naughty naughty @AuntGlow - its 15min past your bedtime! 🤣 (i.e 10:15pm) 😁😆

Have a lovely sleep and rest. No pressure to reply even tomorrow if things get busy & others need more urgent responses 😊. I believe in triage.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself @AuntGlow 😂😂😂

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Glad i gave you a laugh @holdinghope5 . 😊

Hope you are having a good evening, and thank you for being a trusty mod. I see your support posts to people around the place when they're in some really tough spots at the time. 🥰

Actually i think you were the first to respond to my early post too months ago 🤔.

Oops i should also be going to sleep too. Take my own verbal medicine 😅. Work tomorrow!

But I'm down to responding to posts from only 24 hours ago now 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Awww, always here for you @AlwaysMyself,

And glad I was able to respond when you needed the support as well. ☺️

We appreciate how much you connect with and support our community, you're really wonderful at it!

Remember to take lots of breaks and always let us know when you're needing a listening ear. 🫶

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @AlwaysMyself! How’s your evening going? Sorry I haven’t been on the forums really over the last couple of days.

I am really glad to hear you are feeling better after your conversation with your mum aswell. That’s is so lovely that she will support you and I hear that has taken a lot of stress off you at the moment! 💛

Also how good does it feel when the support button is working!! Golden I think 🙏💫

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