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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Oooh what’s the spiced oil use? For cooking?

Thank you for caring enough to be supportive despite not feeling well yourself.

Im at a loss as to what will work for me to recover. I’ve tried so many things and techniques and I’m not improving. It worries me and I find it so difficult to get through each day. My mental illness and overwhelming me. I worried I won’t get better. I wish I had people who loved and cared for me. It’s hard being alone and feeling this way.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear

I use it for cooking, its specifically an Ethiopian flavour one. I use it for my friends who cant have dairy - using coconut oil instead of butter. The butter is called "Nitr Kibbeh".

Agree, mental illness is hard enough itself, and so much harder when you are isolated and without physical help or supports - for anyone! And doubly so when you cant just get up and go somewhere independently. *big hug*

Can I ask what MI looks like for you?

(Anxiety? Depression? Negative self-talk? Just a mood without thoughts? Negative future-thinking?)

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Wow that’s a really handy tip re oil and spices. Do you enjoy cooking?

I’ve been diagnosed with complex PTSD, anxiety and depression.

TW: Experiences with depression, PTSD and anxiety?

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What that looks like for me is firstly an inability to do any task even simple one’s and taking basic care of myself is not possible. For example, can’t cook, shower, brush teeth, wear clean clothes, clean anything, sort out my unpacked stuff or attend any appointments on my own. My day is me sitting in same spot the entire time with a horrible feeling of dread and fear. There’s no joy in anything and I’m just surviving each day. I feel overwhelmed with racing heart, nausea, dizzy, pins and needles, negative thoughts about myself, various awful thoughts about every possible thing going wrong and panic. I also can’t think, I can just sit there staring into space as my brain goes blank. There’s passive SI. My brain can’t make simple decisions at all. I feel trapped in this endless cycle and I’m miserable about life and where I live. I have a lot of anxiety about leaving the house. There’s a lot of hopelessness and wishing someone will reach out to help me look after myself. When I wake up I’m terrified of the day ahead. My body feels awful with a lot of physical symptoms of anxiety and I wake up crying. I don’t want anyone to touch me and I feel thwt this tiny place now is claustrophobic. If someone is talking to me I’m not actively listening I’m just there. I scroll the internet trying to find solutions. My life is a total mess. I take my fur baby out for big walk daily and groom and look after him. These feeling are 24/7 when I’m awake. Nothing gives me any relief. I’ve lost hope of things being or getting better because they’ve just been getting worse. I don’t even know what would make me feel any better other than not living where I’m living. My last place was at least comfortable.



I’ve tried a lot of things to help myself. I’m now worn and tired.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@Cuddlebear No wonder you are feeling so bad lately, it sounds like you really are struggling a lot. How long has it been this bad for? Was it this bad before you moved? (I recall it was stressful when you knew you needed to move and didn't yet have a place, were you coping a little better then than now? Or much the same?

Im not sure how you feel about medication, or if you already have some. But I wonder whether chatting to your GP about the anxiety dread side of things may be beneficial to see if any medication would help alleviate it?

I try to avoid medications where I can (although I have taken antidepressants for 15 years, and [edited by moderator], and a few others periodically when I need to - but what im trying to say is that im not someone who immediately jumps to medication as the first solution). But some of what you've mentioned feeling/thinking reminds me of how I felt in Dec/Jan when I had n episode of panic attacks and severe general anxiety (long story, but this is the only time in my life ive had problems with anxiety). After the first month of being absolutely debilitated like you mentioned I went to the GP and they reluctantly prescribed me some short-term medication to take as-needed. Without it I was in tears every day just from a feeling of dread inside, I had nothing to be scared of but I just felt so scared - I could not be felt alone without falling into a minor panic. The medication did help to calm me down and not feel that irrational fear so that I could cope to be alone and read a book or stomach the idea of eating something.

Thankfully for me it was temporary, and when the brain-stimulation effect wore off so did the anxiety.

I'm wondering if especially if this has been brought on primarily by the move if it could be of short-term benefit for you also? Until the house has the urgent fixes, and your support worker has been able to help unpack boxes for you, etc.

You know if I knew you in face-to-face life I'd be there in a flash and be unpacking boxes, right?

It does seem so unreasonable that you are expected to do it all yourself with limited vision and mental health challenges.

Whilst you are in APARC, can your support worker continue to unpack things at your house for the 3 hours per week you usually have them? (Or use those hours before/after to do so?)

I wonder how it will feel for you when the new place is finally fixed and unpacked?

It will happen - even if it feels like it never will. It will eventually. I just hope sooner than later. I wish the agent realised how much impact the housing repairs are contributing to your already challenging situation, and would prioritise them.

Does the walk with Wilbur and the fresh air make you feel any better at all?

I did notice when I had the anxiety that walks with my mum helped to reduce the fear feeling in me. Walking has never helped for my depression though interestingly enough!

I hope Wilbur is giving you some cuddles and licky-kisses to remind you that you are his world. 🥰

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself Good morning lovely how are you? How was your day yesterday? Has the massage helped with the pain you experience? It’s very very windy here in Victoria today and looks like a storm is brewing. I’m inside keeping out of the crazy wind.

I am on medication as like you got to a point where I really needed it. I’ve been on it for some years now. I think what’s happened is since May 2024 I’ve had a series of horrible situations. Started with the emergency bypass and amputation and a very long road to recovery. I had to move too at that time as rental I was in was sold and I’d only been out of hospital a week. It was very difficult. Then my first guide dog passed away really suddenly after medicine surgeon gave her killed her. I had a big struggle with NDIS getting my current guide dog and it took a toll. This move has been horrendous. My mum died by SI too and I’ve had childhood traumas. I think everything’s compounded and I’m now struggling and unwell.

My support worker can’t unpack as I don’t have the funding under domestic duties at home. Only 2 hours each week. The rest of the hours are for community / social participation. NDIS has been really cutting peoples budgets so many participants are in the same boat as me.

It will help when this place is more in order. I’ll speak to APARC about the situation to see if there’s anything they can suggest.

Going for a walk is helpful. I can’t walk too much with my leg as it is after surgery but I can sit on a seat take a break and continue. Being with Wilbur is a huge help I’d be totally lost without his help and company.

I totally understand what you mean re medication. I’m really happy to hear that the medication helped you get back on your feet so to speak. Are you still taking it?

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @Cuddlebear, thank you for sharing your experiences with the community!

It sounds like you have been through quite a bit lately I'm sorry to hear that your mother passed away. It must have been really challenging to cope with on top of the other things that you were going through.

I'm curious whether you have looked into the Guided Recovery program here at SANE? Having a regular Peer Support Worker or Counsellor may be beneficial to chat with someone about all that you have been through. I will pop the link here if you want to check it out: https://www.sane.org/referral

It's tough what is happening with NDIS and I am concerned that when I have my next plan review in November 2026 I will lose a lot of my funding. I actually don't use that much as I am inderpendent with a lot of things but do have regular exercise physiology, music therapy, recovery coach and a psychologist that I have been seeing for a long time. I previously used a lot of respite but with the NDIS review a while back this is not available anymore. We'll see what happens!

Anyways thanks for reaching out to your peers!

Take care

RiverSeal

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@RiverSeal Hello lovely how are you? Yes things have been tough and I am overwhelmed by all of it.

NDIS has really let us all down. All my psychosocial supports were cut and I’ve become sick. I’m also deaf and blind. I’m really hoping when you are next up for review that you don’t lose any funding. My next review is early 2026 but this year I had a reassessment so I’m hoping I can just get a roll over rather than a full review again.

Im currently on a program with SANE the recovery program without the counselling. At the time of signing up the SANE program with the counselling wasn’t available in my area.

Im currently waiting for a bed to become available in my local APARC. I’ll be there for 2 weeks.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

@AlwaysMyself

This is for you. If I knew you offline I would have taken you out for dinner with a gift to say how grateful I am for your care and support.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Hey @Cuddlebear, I'm well thanks and enjoying hte weekend working at home so far.

I have been in a APARC twice and found it really support and beneficial at the time. I had my last psychotic episode in a there and didn't want to go into hospital as I didn't think it would be helpful. I wanted to learn to manage it on my own without being locked up and losing control over my choices. It was 2017 and I am so please I took that approach as I have acheived so much in my recovery since then.

I hope you get what you want out of you stay!

Take care

RiverSeal

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Aww thanks @Cuddlebear , that means a lot to me. And its also a very cute pic! 🥰

I wasn't (mentally) well this morning, but in a turn of fortune I needed to pick something up from a friend at midday and they saw I wasnt fell and chatted to me for a few hours, and I felt a lot better after - enough to then be able to keep myself busy with food preparation until guests arrived for dinner. Hence I haven't been online since getting out of bed today.

I didn't realise all those other compounding factors also (your mum, former GD or surgery). Wow, that is heaps also. ❤️‍🩹

Im really glad you were able to get Wilbur, but sorry to hear it was a bit of a battle with NDIS.

Ive heard a number of people comment on how NDIS funding is getting cut - often on the supports that people genuinely need, whilst still sometimes there are stories of people misusing their funding or getting exorbitant amounts for less impactful disabilities. I'm sorry that both @Cuddlebear and @RiverSeal you have been impacted by it. I didnt realise that you wouldn't just have a generalist support worker that could either do domestic help or help with outings support depending on the needs that week. I guess maybe some workers are better skilled in one area or the other, but from a customer-needs perspective I wish it could be more flexible. 😢

I think asking APARC about it is a great idea -- as they would surely be a good point for knowing other local services that can help support people during recovery.

You're 1 day closer to going to APARC!! 🎉😊 the countdown is on!

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