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Managing thoughts of suicide & self-harm

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

I figure it's better to introduce my challenges here than in a welcome. Hopefully only people willing to hear about SI will venture here.

TW: Suicidal Ideation

Content/trigger warning

I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 12. I don't remember much of life before this time. I'm aware there are times that I haven't though as much about suicide as others, but it's always been a "yes please, that would be my preference" even during the better times.

Why am I still alive then? For two reasons:

- the emotional pain it would cause to very close family.

- the physical pain of accessible methods, and the risks of non-fatal attempts causing lifelong physical impairments.

How do I keep myself going all these years?

By focusing on how I can benefit other people's lives instead. If I'm going to put up with life, it may as well be beneficial to someone.

And to help me keep life less monotonous I look for 'interesting' things - quirky people, exploring foreign countries/cultures, trying new foods (even if i dont think I'll like them). I've never been a status-quo person.

I explain to MH supports that when life is not distressing I can carry on without seriously considering suicide as a possible option. I can say "hello there thought, I hear you but I have chosen not to act on it, things are OK". But when something sets things off kilter, its a pretty quick track back to "why am I still doing this? Do I really still have the same commitment to living? And why, for whom? Why can't I be permitted to die if that's what I want for myself?"

With decades of this under my belt, I have the ability to sit with feelings of extreme distress. And the courage to text or call someone if I need to - and I'm getting a little better at doing this *before* it gets too extreme, but I still hesitate because I don't want to burden others and the frequency of it happening during those unbalanced times is too often. I've persuaded myself a few times recently to instead call a crisis line, but waiting 30-45min in a queue can sometimes exacerbate the thoughts, and sometimes the calls might help dissipate the feelings (if i called early enough) but other times I feel worse after because of course they're going to try to give some positive outlook for the future, but it grates on me because deep down I dont want a future at all. Its actually refreshing when someone acknowledges that not liking/wanting life is OK - and instead just tries to look at how to rebalance the scales to help me cope with continuing to live despite not wanting to.

I'm not sure how un/common my way of thinking is. So much about suicide prevention is focused on short-term distress tolerance or "fixable" problems (eg situations).

What do I need from the community here...?

To be heard? To know if anyone else out there has a long enduring preference to die even when they aren't feeling active distress? And if so, has anything helped them longterm to shift that thinking?

If anyone knows of any practitioners who *specialise* in chronic SI since a young age, I'd really love to know who (if there is a way someone is allowed to??). I've tried Google searching and using online psych directories and reading bio's. I've seen many psychologists and psychiatrists in the past who haven't been able to help me shift this (even if theyve helped in other ways).

I do wonder if my neural networks for positive emotional may not have fully developed or may have atrophied due to the young age and length of time. I genuinely do not know what being happy feels like, I do not have any memory that I recall as being "happy" or joy, and I suspect this makes recovery much harder.

Im ok at the moment. Im safe. But it is exhausting.

Apologies this post is quite a bit too long.

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In response to: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warning

Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

Off to bed my @AlwaysMyself

Speak to you tomorrow xx

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

Aw thank you my friend @AlwaysMyself for offering us the space to share how we are & for checking in on us ❤️ I’ll definitely come on this thread time and time again for that ☺️🫂

will let you know later how I’ve been as I’ve just woken up

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

Aww, thank you - you're lovely! @Shaz51 💛

Umm, is today your birthday?! @AlwaysMyself 😍 HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

How many laps around the sun have you completed?

And how was your day? 🥹🎂

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

@AuntGlow actual date is next week sometime but i dont like to give my exact date 😊. However its quite depressing when every year the % of age with severe MH grows 😒😔.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

Hugs ❤️ @AlwaysMyself

Hello @AuntGlow 😊

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

Oh, that is completely fair @AlwaysMyself 💛

Ah! We in the same age group, which is kind of cool. hehe

I understand... I know birthdays can be vulnerable reminders for so many reasons, and you're allowed to feel whatever comes up. Is there anything you may need from us over the next week? 🥰

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

Thanks @Shaz51 @AuntGlow .

I wish I knew what might help in the interim. It's confronting collating the history of treatment and reports for my centrelink application. Its depressing seeing emails where i have expressed to my psych at the time the same thoughts i've had ever since - questioning the future. And its hard not having anyone (in person) can share that with as i go.

Even on the physical-pain investigation front, i've just read a report from 5 years ago where a bone scan showed degeneration in my spine - and my doctor never told me. Never referred me to a chiro. I went by my own decision mid-late last year and their xrays were the first i knew of this. The bone scan said Grade 1, the newer chiro xrays showed Grade 2 (halfway to grade 3). I am honestly not sure how to feel or think because i do not understand why my GP never actioned the finding of spine degeneration 5 years ago. I really hope there is a reason, because otherwise... otherwise it feels negligent. I want to believe there was a reason. He knew at the time the pain was impacting my MH and thats why I was finally wanting to find out the cause and what could be done to alleviate it.

But this pattern of being dismissed medically has been my whole life since i was under 10 and had chronic muscle aches. Told as a child to "stop whinging", so i did. I stopped telling people when something hurt, except for saying when i couldnt do something. I had a good GP for a few years (16yo until around 20yo?) and she took me seriously and referred me for my knee pain at least. But other than her, I've been let down by GPs (until this new MH GP i've seen this year).

Its only now that I'm looking at applying for ndis that i am reviewing the physical-pain evidence.

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

@AlwaysMyself

Passing through, hoping you are alright and everything is ok.

i have posted replies to all those questions you asked me last week on the thread we usually talk on. Also post relating to something you recently mentioned. Shall leave you to read and respond at time that works for you.

hoping communication has improved between you and your mum.

hoping you both have been able to talk about and deal with the communication issues that you recently mentioned to me on the other thread

take care

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@AlwaysMyself

I am applying for NDIS at the moment, the specialist said to go for it

I am on the DSP for 3 years now I think 🤔

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Re: TW: The 'real' me inside - I come with an SI warnng

@Cuddlebear thinking of you. Just read some posts from you from 7 March 🥰 sorry im that behind lol. Wanted to post on your thread but i have forgotten its title! But i will search for it later - ive just run out of time right now.

Sending care.

@Flutterbug9 thought of you yesterday as i was driving and saw an ad for a model train expo 🥰.

Will reply when i get the time. Still hectic. May not be proper replies until next week? But maybe i can between appointments (like this message is!)

@Shaz51 🥰🤗. Best wished for ndis application. Welcome to talk about how it feels or whatever would support you if you wish.

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