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A strange dream and it's meaning...

A strange dream and it's meaning...

Hi everyone,

a few nights ago I had a dream in which I learnt my friend died. In the dream I was a bit surprised that she had died, but I wasn't sad about it, in fact I felt nothing much at all. She is relatively young and healthy - so I didn't expect she would go and die; that's all.

In the dream, I decide that I'll write a nice tribute to her on facebook. I don't even really feel like I want to do that much, but I know I have to be seen to do something socially acceptable, so that is what I decide I must do.

What a strange dream!! Me in super-uncaring mode!

In reality, my friend is perfectly fine. I have had a very long history of somewhat uncomfortable interactions with her that culminated in a tense argument over 10 years ago. Since then, we have not exactly been close, although we go through all the motions of being good to each other and sharing news of our private lives.

Recently, I had the thought that I'm very glad she doesn't call me often, as I don't like the way she pumps me for advice and then rings off. The conversation seems quite one-sided, at times.

Anyone else out there ever had a dream like this? Such a strange dream!!

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Thanks, @Former-Member,

I am probably very sensitive to the influence of self-centered people. While I will never have good, nurturing friendships with such people, I seem to be attracted to having them in my life. I guess this is because we are attracted to what seems familiar to us.... whether we want to be or not and whether we acknowledge it or not!

Growing up, every member of my family was self-centered and individualistic. Everyone wanted to do their own thing, regardless of what was good for the family as a whole. There was not much unity. There was a lot of conflict.

My Mum was very unhappy and this made her introspective and selfish... she really did not see or recognise the emotional needs of her own children. As long as we were fed and clothed, then she felt she had done her job. That was all she could manage and I felt sorry for her. I was afraid of her and her temper, but I felt sorry for her, too, from a very young age.

I suppose I am attracted to friends who remind me of this basic, primary, unhealthy relationship. When I think about it, all my close friends are stuck in 'survival' mode, even though they may have very comfortable and successful lives. They are people who are very driven and who don't know how to slow down. And I feel a bit sorry for them. At times, I have tried my best to help them....

but maybe not so much anymore.

Thanks @Former-Member, you have really made me think.

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Hey @Former-Member,

that's so interesting that you mentioned Monica Lewinsky, as I was only talking about her the other day. I read her book... I think it was called "My Story".

She was actually a brilliant, talented student (far from her bimbo image) who would have gone on to have an amazing career, if it wasn't for the former president. He really did ruin her life, in a way.

I think she even changed her name, in the end, to try and escape the scandal. And she went on to design hand-bags. I will have to look her up!

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I just spent an hour writing a reply that got lost via my useless NBN satellite connection! Ha ha ha. Oh well. Nice to read your posts.

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Oh no, @Former-Member!

That has happened to me too. Check your account here on Sane because Sane auto-saves things and it might be filed under 'drafts'. I am not very Tech-savvy!

It's the pits when this happens!

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Hi @Former-Member, @Former-Member, @Appleblossom and all.

I spoke to my best friend last night and she was very encouraging and supportive. She believes that in the past year, I have been more out-spoken and decisive than ever before! She thinks that is possibly why I was at odds with my other friend from the short holiday.

She says that my friend would need time to adapt to my outspokenness because she would not be used to it, having not seen me for 12 months or so.

Then my best friend went on to say that although she does not know my friend for the holiday very well, from what I've said about her in the past, she does seem to be a very opinionated person who is used to getting her own way. No joke!

So it's no wonder we clashed..... I am myself still adjusting to being confident in my own opinions.

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Hi @Sahara - it's good you were able to speak so freely with your best friend - great news.

Yes, when two strongly opinionated individuals get into discussing different points of view world war three can erupt. It's just not worth it. But it is wonderful that your self confidence is growing 😄 Hope your day is a good one. Sending warm hugs 🤗 xxxxx

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Hi @Former-Member

Thank you for explaining what you meant by training of the mind. It was really interesting.

It does seem like offenders do get away with things sometimes on the surface or legally if not pursued or limited evidence is not enough to convict; but offenders do suffer internally (feel guilty, troubled or empty) as they "do not have any inner peace". Inner peace is obtained through living a life of love where no hurt is sought or practised.

Offenders may seem to get away with it externally but internally they become darker and harder wearing a mask. Everyone in some shape or form gets there's in the end - whether they reap good or bad. I have had the misfortune of knowing too many people like this in the past and it does come back to bite in some way.

Victim mentality can be prolonged if we give the offender and the hurt too much power over us.

Its not hard to let go of hate because I don't allow it into my heart in the first place. It's the opposite of my values and I won't let anyone bring me down to that level. Hate torments the mind - its toxic, soul destroying and can cause madness. I know this and won't go there. I have witnessed that it in the few that I have known in the past that harboured it - and when exposed no one wanted to be around them.

I always feel better in myself if I witness or experience a harmful action and seek to right a wrong, even if it's just calling it out or exposing it if justice is served or not. It can help to prevent further harm. In my experience the truth alway wins because the beholder of it has a clear conscience and inner peace - the perpetrator does not and can struggle with inner turmoil and torment whilst wearing a mask of being in control. So even though some may think they have "gotten away with it" remember they have to live with themselves - and they have no peace but a gnawing emptiness which they seek to fulfill in superficial ways that doesn't satisfy, hence why some just want more and more. They chase the wind.

Truth always prevails and wins in the end. As lies become exposed eventually. Deceit and oppression can't destroy it or win - just covers it up and blinds others for awhile to the harm, but the truth has a way of coming out in the end and consequences can hit hard (the truth hurts).

People often justify their harmful actions or bad behaviour in their minds in the bid to not feel shame, inferiority or guilt. But it digs its heels in their minds all their lives and festers.

For those without a clear conscience the greatest torment is to have a mirror turned in on themselves to face the reality of what they have done and what they have become, the mirror exposes all and thus they can no longer deny, and clearly realise "what they have lost as a result, perhaps forever. For these the grief can be agonising. For others so many regrets. One with a clear conscience gains peace and fulfilment, so who really wins in the end? Another phrase to describe this scenario is "to see one's life flashing before their eyes". Even if one thinks they have gotten away with it they don't. The truth will always come out in the end.

Ghandi once said said that those who misuse power at the time will seem invincible for awhile, but in the end "they always fall". So true. Good/truth always prevails in the long run as has been the case in my life experience. And this is from someone who has been to hell and back and still going through it. But I know one day I will look back in a better place. This has been the scenario throughout my life although it's been one of tragedy in many ways and I am still in a very hard life situation that's causing me grief personally. But I find it always works out in the end as good always prevails for those who practice it in one shape or another. Keeping in mind life is not met to be easy.

You are right that so many confuse abuse for love. I wrote abit on this under the thread "enforced non-dating" which was a very interesting discussions. My daughter was like that to a tee. Usually low self esteem is the culprit or naivety. I think she is starting to wake up to this but she was abused in that type of relationship for many years and it did enormous emotional and psychological harm. You are spot on with that one.

To not call out a wrong doing if it hurts another is to turn a blind eye. The same as what the Catholic Church hierarchy did with pedophilia for their own personal self preservation and their church's preservation (only a few did this, not all Catholics - no offense to anyone intended, that being just one example. And what price to self is such self preservation when we lose our own integrity, ourselves whilst doing so? As when we hush up about a wrongdoing the harm continues; we are then partly to blame as by speaking up we could of stopped it.

These are not my philosophies I speak of @Former-Member, but home truths I have learnt and grown from through valuable life lessons along my journey, some the hard way - you can't learn this through a book in my humble opinion but there can be guidance through such....; - gaining invaluable insight and wisdom through being tested in life. Learning what matters, what is important and the value of wise choices and ethics, beng the core of who we become. And I have been tried and tested to the hilt lol. I have well and truly earned my grey hairs (thank goodness for dyes lol). Hope you are having a good day. Hugs xx

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All I can say @Saharais:
GO GIRL!

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Hi @Former-Member. I understand the concept of unconditional love. Ideal. Mothers usually have it for their children (but not always). And everybody, everybody imagines they are giving it. And, in my experience, almost everybody puts conditions of all sorts on their love. If you have experienced the ‘stigma’ that @Sahara mentions around MI, then you can see what I mean? “We will love you when and only when your behaviour falls within certain socially acceptable parameters….until then, we will scrub your name from our address books and check back in a year to see if you are ‘over it’.”

Good on you for working it out and for being unconditional love in motion. I used to think I gave it too until I found the people to whom I had been very kind were not able to be kind back when I needed it, and then I realised that it was an expectation of mine. My love was conditional. **Tries hard. Room for improvement......

The ‘Truth is the Truth’ is a simple statement on the face of it. With due respect, the veracity of this statement has been debated throughout the course of history. Like, “Is there a God?”, the answer differs according to opinion. Ultimately what we believe is just opinion. Personal philosophy. Our own ‘home truths’. The fact that others share our opinions doesn’t make them facts. Your journey, though difficult, has taught you lessons that only come about from your personal journey (likewise anyone). It is fantastic that you feel you have certainty on these big issues, and very generous of you to share your insight and wisdom born of experience.

So if I sound like I am disagreeing, it is mostly on the very baseline level that we can easily mistake opinion or personal beliefs for Universal Truth.

I think it is both admirable and liberating that you are able not to let hate into your heart in the first place. But with respect, that is just YOU. To find that hate for one’s abuser arises in one’s heart is very distressing and not something over which most people have conscious control. If it were, then how easy would things be? No hate just because we choose not to have it hang around to harm us?

Of course, I don’t want to hate. I have always been able to forgive and let go of resentment in the past. So what do I do when I find that I just can’t this time? Not yet anyway. With the obsessive thinking that is a part of PTSD, I can feel the hatred harming me, just as you say. Eating me up. Burning my insides. At first, it was rage, but thankfully that has passed (with a lot of ‘hard work’ and acceptance of the way things are rather than how I’d like to believe they are). But so far, I have not yet found a way in to forgiveness or whatever such that the hatred doesn’t arise when I think of my abuser. Any suggestions? “Just let go” doesn’t cut it, I’m afraid. And even when I practice loving kindness meditation towards my abuser, I cannot sit with it, as it morphs and changes back into hatred. Just this one person. Just this one time in my life (even though he is my second abuser). Nothing to do with my will. If it were just will, then I would have been able to not hate him in the first place. Goodness knows I tried!

And yes, like your daughter, I had low self esteem and was hugely naive. This event lost me my innocence.

If I assess my MI health progress, I can see that I have moved beyond my own victim mentality; I have discovered self compassion; my courage has grown; my other symptoms are considerably reduced with inner calm; but right now, I am still saddled with this hatred, which I neither want nor feel that I have any control over. And yes, it does fester, but I won’t be helping myself if I just judge myself to be a bad person for having the hatred in the first place! And hoping that the Truth will win out and the abuser will be exposed and suffer some kind of retribution for his sins in this lifetime doesn’t change a thing (even if I did believe it as firmly as you do). His conscience will not make him suffer, as you probably rightly suggest happens to some perpetrators. (Heaven knows I’m still suffering shame for ONCE getting drunk, angry and foul-mouthed after days of his goading, belittling, provocative behaviour). Psychopaths do not HAVE a conscience. They do not experience remorse or guilt or shame. And profound betrayal, psychological and emotional manipulation and non-violent abuse are not punishable by law. Calling him out will only result in more of the same, plus victim blaming, not being believed and public shaming. The snare of the high-functioning psychopath. He has left a string of ‘victims’ with lingering MI.

I absolutely agree that “Inner peace is obtained through living a life of love where no hurt is sought or practised”. In fact, I think is the answer to almost everything! Thus the principle vow of many professions and spiritual traditions, “Do no harm”. I also agree that the best of life’s lessons are learnt by experience and not from a book, and in a weird way I am grateful to my abuser for sending me to this Hell in the first place, even though I can’t yet forgive him.

Grey hair, by the way is very fashionable!

I am having a good day. Not the least of which is this fabulous deeply philosophical discussion which is extremely unusual, edifying and gratifying!

Gone off topic again @Sahara, but I hope you can really take in the validation your best friend gave you about your other friendships. Seems like you are having a bit of a growth spurt right before our eyes! Whoopee!

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I absolutely agree that “Inner peace is obtained through living a life of love where no hurt is sought or practised”. In fact, I think is the answer to almost everything!


Then that would be a universal truth to you if you believe that is the answer to everything. Truth, in the sense I am speaking of, is the gaining of knowledge and wisdom through life experience which leads to the way of obtaining inner peace and happiness. Which helped me back to gaining sanity after tipping over the edge and I share this as I wouldnt wish what I went through on anyone.

You are not the only one who bears the scars of psychopaths or abuse. I just don't let them have that power over me and was trying to help sincerely as I know those scars... Their main traits apart from seeking power and control because they feel weak are hatred and anger.....I can only speak from my own life experience and I was able to let it all go. One must for sanity and life. I chose life. And now I seek to only support others.

And no, justice in the end for offenders does help some victims now - but it a driving force for closure in others to obtain it. Calling out their wrongdoing does help now putting a stop to it. And you are wrong - psychological and mental abuse is a legal offence that one can be convicted for under new domestic violence laws. Just harder to prove but can be done. We are working on a legal case on behalf of our daughter for just that presently who was abused as such and attempted to take her life as a result. It has stopped him with her at least - more should speak out and talk to the police. My daughter is starting to heal, starting to let the pain, anger go. That's when we are no longer victims but survivors.

Alot of what I share I learnt the hard way through making many mistakes when young. I was once not a loving, kind person myself. That came with growth. I can see both sides. Call out a wrongdoing and you take away the extent of harm done protecting and the power a person can have over you. No judgement involved here. No philosophies, no opinions - just real hard life lessons and honest sharing of what worked for me. Everything I shared of my own life experiences in these posts is this truth as I see it and have personally experienced in life and stems from that statement above you absolutely agree with HeavenlyQueen.

Anger can complicate simple basic truths and it goes around in circles. I won't enter into such dialogue as that is not in the nature of a support forum 😊 People's welfare on here is the highest priority. So many are on the edge as it is. I don't want to argue, just help. Please don't use capital letters when referring to me personally as that comes across as aggression. You may not of been aware of this? Healthy discussion on the points raised is invited.

A lived experience is more than an opinion - such as if a person has experienced a cure for a disease that worked for them that others may not have any knowledge of. And this experience just may well help them in their situation so that person shares this with the intention to help others in some way.

I post and share my life experiences because it may just help someone whom has suffered similar horrific abuses, grief, tragedy, mental health struggles and losses etc as that is my goal the intention of my posts. It may just resonate with them and offer some peace as I have found if they try it. That's the only way we know if it's the truth or not - if it offers peace and well being. And that is my intention. This seems to upset you and I am bewildered as to why. Please explain? Others can chose to leave behind what I say it if it's not for them.

Wishing you, me and all of us healing and peace 💕

@Sahara How has your day been day been? What have you been doing?. I have my step son, his wife and my grandson visiting and I am over the moon as I have t seen them for awhile. I am loving the bonding time with my grandson and learning about every single Pokemon that's ever been invented lol. He is only 4 but he uses technology like a pro!! He amazes me. I am a very proud grandma and proud of the way you are growing my friend. Keep going and watch the negativity around you. Hugs xx

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