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Support For Historylover

Support For Historylover

@Historylover, I've read your most recent posts. I'm sorry for your predicament as you relate in (whats left of) them. And what has since happened in that thread has almost certainly not been reassuring for you, at a time when I can tell your aching for some genuine reassurance.

You've spoken about how they are collecting your words to use against you. Might it be useful to employ that same strategy yourself?

You say that they won't specify what your supposed "delusional disorder" is, thereby leaving you without a charge to argue against. But what are the common factors that define all "delusional disorders"? I can only assume that you've said something that, in their eyes, is considdered a delusional idea.

So, have they come across as hostile to any particular idea or principal that you've voiced? Have they been attacking/undermining/challenging any particular statements you've made? e.g. by asking things like "How do you know that?, What makes you think that?, Have you considdered that what's actually going on is...", ect.? If you can determine what thoughts their taking issue with, that may give you some sort of hint as to what sort of delusions they are going to accuse you with. It might help you arm yourself better for your tribunal.

I know that with my ordeal with my own therapist, the key to escaping was right in front of my face the whole time, for those whole 7 years, and I just kept ignoring it because I was too damned fixated on getting the therapist to respect my point of view, rather then just telling her what she wanted to hear. All that time she kept making irrelevant comments about my financial situation, and how I needed more money. I brushed them off because I had much bigger worries to contend with. Then, I was finally pronounced cured and let go when she decided that I had enough money for her liking. Think of all the grief I could've spared myself if only I'd truly listened early on to her fixation with money, and told her that I'd somehow come in to a fortune, thus resolving all the money problems she was so obsessed with.

Maybe this lesson can somehow be applied to your situation? You don't get set free (in my experiance, at least) until you tell them what they want to hear. And you can't tell them what they want to hear until you've really listened to what their claiming is wrong with you, and stopped trying to dispute those diagnosises, however dodgy they may be. Sometimes the messages are more subtle then we can hear, but I think most therapists will drop some sort of indications about what they don't like about you - even if it's just a contemptuous facial expression when a certain idea is voiced.

I don't know what more I can suggest at this point, @Historylover .😔 I can only wish you all the best for your tribunal on Monday, and for the remainder of your treatment, however long that may be.

Be well, @Historylover . And know that you have people rooting for you on the outside, even if we can't do anything practical to help.🤗🤗🤗🤗

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@chibam, people in positions of responsibility don't get to choose what to believe. If, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they simply are unwilling to accept facts, then they are not worthy of any position of responsibility.

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@chibam, I'm looking forward to the hearing now. I still don't understand my ex- psy, but perhaps this will be the culmination of our work together. Perhaps cold turkey was the only way he could bring our close, working relationship to a close , but it was not only so brutal but the complete opposite of the man I knew, and was completely unexpected. Still a work in progress.

This all just goes to show that they can hear absolute truth and label it a disorder. So, how many other mistakes are they making?

P.S. The hearing is on the 25th, I think.

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P.S. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your thoughtful thread, @chibam. You've been a wonderful friend these past several years.🥰

I hope you're doing alright. Alright is good enough, but good is even better. 👍

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@HistoryloverI don't have a lot of time to respond right now, so I'll be brief. I don't really know much what to say, anyway, aside from the fact that I admire your bravery for standing up for what you believe in.

I doubt I'd be so openly defiant in the face of such opposition. I try to get through life more strategically. Whether or not that's just cowardace, or savvy wisdom... well, I guess the jury's still out on that one. It's not that I've never had the guts to stand up to the big, bad bullies - it's just that I've never found it to accomplish anything.

But I can't deny that it takes real guts to stick by your principals like that.

BTW, today's the 16th; so the 25th is Monday week.

I hope the intervening week goes smoothly for you. And similar wishes for the hearing itself, of course.🙂

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This is my 4th attempt to post, @chibam .They just keep dropping out.

I know the hearing is Monday, 25th. Perhaps I have misspoken somewhere. I speak with the registrar on Monday (tomorrow) to clarify which 'delusion/s' I am supposed to be suffering from. By their delay, I am being deprived of preparation time and that's a low move as it takes time to gather evidence and collate an argument.

I don't know about brave. I had this fight thrust upon me and I live by Noblesse Oblige. Your fights have been of a different nature.

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I speak with the registrar on Monday (tomorrow) to clarify which 'delusion/s' I am supposed to be suffering from. By their delay, I am being deprived of preparation time and that's a low move as it takes time to gather evidence and collate an argument.


Well, at least you get a week to prepare. Not ideal, I know, but it's better then just a couple of days, or less. Can you file for an extension if you need more time to prepare your defense?

I know you never asked for this fight, @Historylover , but you choose to stand tall and say what's really on your mind, rather then what the bosses want to hear. That takes bravery.

I mentioned earlier about how I pretended to agreed with my therapist that money is all you need to have a worthwhile life. It was the most sensible tactical move I had; the only thing I could do that would accomplish anything. I don't feel guilt or regret over (pretend) agreeing with her about that. But there are moments when I can't help but wonder if I might've sold my soul in that moment, just to be rid of her. Like, maybe there was some devil listening to that conversation or something, who took that lie as consent to stifle my life of all possible goodness, leaving only material baubles behind. I'm being overly poetic, I know, but I can tell you that it felt dirty agreeing to her rubbish for that one brief moment.

Maybe it is more noble to proudly admit your beliefs, even in the face of the hardest torments. Maybe, if nothing else, it is easier to live with yourself and what you've done. I honestly don't know. I don't do well when the right decision and the wrong decisions aren't clearly signposted.

Regarding your earlier comments on telepathy, and my beliefs regarding it... I will simply say that I've never had any personal experiance of it.

If it does exist at all, I suspect it must be quite selective.

As you know, I have an awful lot of difficulty communicating with others. It seems that, no matter how clearly I try to express my stance in the plainest english, I am frequently misconstrued. And I seem to be at a loss to understand many, many things which most other people pick up easily.

If there was some sort of underlying mental link between us, I would think it would be easier for us to understand one another, not more difficult.

My experience has been that, not only is there no default connection between myself and others, but that it's all but impossible to construct one with our extremely versatile english language, no matter how much effort we pour in to doing so.

But that's just my experience; upon which I've built my understanding of this world. I can't deny that it's entirely possible that others have been born far more in-tune with the people around them; perhaps even to the point where they are able to transmit and recieve meaningful mental messages to one another.

I was watching this video the other day about currant computer brain-reading technology. A test subject had sensors stuck to their head, then was made to watch videos - a flyover of some waterfalls in a jungle; and then a scene of walking through an outdoor restraunt. The computer, reading this persons brain waves, constructed a video sequence of a flyover of some waterfalls in a jungle, followed by a walkthrough of an outdoor restraunt!

The specific details of what the subject was shown and what the computer "imagined" were completely differant; but the basic premise of the videos were identical! So, to me, that proves that our brains are, to some degree "transmitting" our thoughts out, in a way that can at least be picked up with purpose-made computer sensors. Whose to say that an unusually advanced human brain wouldn't be able to pick these signals up and decipher them, too?

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@chibam , that was an interesting read, and to avoid the possibility of potential deletes, I may answer in paragraphs.

I wish I was at home and could answer on my PC, and at my leisure.

I know telepathy is real, @chibam. I can assure you it is very real and you would have experienced it in simple ways yourself without recognising it as such. Have you ever been in a crowded shopping centre and suddenly looked across a crowd to see an acquaintance looking at you? Like a message had called you to look directly at them? Your consciousnesses interacted at that moment.

Recently I was thinking of my neighbour wondering when she was due back from her holiday. I went to the kitchen, stood at the sink's open window and she walked up to it. Why had I been thinking about her at that particular moment? These simple events happen all the time, but we don't identify them as telepathy because they are gone in an instant and forgotten.

One scientist suggested that it may have been a primitive way of communicating before we developed voice. Animals also have it but I haven't researched in that area. It is a safety and protective facility, and also damaging in the wrong relationships. It's not 'highly advanced'; it's a vestige of our ancestral state, I understand. Our senses are dulled in modern society. There is an overload of information bombarding our senses every moment. It's not clever, it's just more finely honed in some people.

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Another delete...

I honestly don't know what to do re an extension, or if I want one. This is just a nightmare. I'm hoping to see a lawyer or advocate as soon as possible.

This situation was serious, but it's being exploited for control and power. It's over the top.

I read in recent days that beliefs belong in churches. Science should not be based on beliefs, but acknowledgement of verifiable facts.

As for not being understood, I suffer from that too. I realized lately that, for me, it is because the listener has shut down receptivity leaving me babbling trying to find common ground. It's intimidation in these instances and I never find common ground. So I look for more receptive folks. Still looking.

Lunch is waiting.

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Only had the dessert, it was delicious.

Before continuing @@chibam, I would like to add that I find your communication excellent and you have deep insight. Sometimes I am sure you have a 3rd eye.

As for telepathy, I have always had a psychic streak and I think a lot of people do. I could occasionally foretell minor disasters, foretell the sex of an unborn child that was intuitive, not a guess. And so on. However, this telepathy has been active but not researched until the last months. I wanted to know more. I have seen Sensing Murder on television and YouTube (mind bending- especially Deb), Medium (Alison Dubois is a genuine psychic medium) and watched Tyler Henry in Hollywood Medium, A doctor he'd read did a brain scan while he did a reading as he was astonished with his own reading. He shows unusual patterns and his forehead perspires profusely as he reads. It is only unfortunate that Tyler's subjects are celebrities. Most are vain fools.

In my opinion, something is going on here. I no longer could walk away perplexed for a short time then put it out of my mind. I wanted to understand. I came to realise the depth of connection we share - a shared consciousness that can be tapped into. So shared, in fact that it is global. Many say universal. My ex- psy and I foresaw 3 major significant events overseas. We picked up the hints via our shared consciousness. We were astonished. In talking with the chief scientist at the Noetic Institute, he said many people has foreseen these events as we did. Remember, human consciousness is a psychiatrist's (some, anyway) field of expertise.

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I want to go deeply into this research. It boggles my mind and excites my interest.

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The research going on is mind bending- @chibam. At first I wondered what on earth they were talking about, but over time my brain disentangled it automatically so that I could understand the complexity of human consciousness.

It's mind boggling!!🤪

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