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Struggling to be

Struggling to be

Hi all,

I'm a new poster here, and finally stepping up to say hello. New to posting, that is, but I've been reading here for a while.

My main reason for not posting is that I haven't known what to say about myself. I still don't. I've nothing to be proud of; I'm ashamed of how I've ended up, and what a failure my life has been. I've been heavily depressed for most of it but done my best to be a "brave little soldier"; spent a little over twenty years on anti-depressants which merely dulled me as I watched life slipping out of my grasp.

I've tried. Really hard. I don't have a lot of contact with other people, because ... well, I simply don't trust people any more, and there's not a soul on the planet who cares about my well-being or even existence. I've reached out for help several times to so-called professionals, but it hasn't gone well. I don't have a reason to be here any more, but i'm too much of a coward to do anything about it. (More shame.)

I'm not fishing for reassurance or compliments. I'm aware that what I've said doesn't sound inviting of help or kindness, but it's my way of saying "I Exist", in an honest assessment.

I don't know what it would take to ignite my pilot light again. I really wish I did. But I suspect things have gone too far into the dark to ever escape the numbing shadow of What Might Have Been.

I admire those who can be positive, and brandish hope. Good luck to you all.

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Heya @BatGuano ,

Sometimes the accessing of mental health services is like getting a loan from the bank. To get the loan you have to prove you don't need it.

Ahh, I haven't experienced it quite that way. Interesting. I would agree with the part of getting a loan where you have to agree to operate completely on their terms, including allowing them to unilaterally change the conditions of the contract at any time, without notice.

In another thread about why GPs treat people with MI like naughty children, I've suggested the strategy of putting on a 'sane face' so that the doc might treat one like an adult. Its not fair. Its lying to get what you want.

And sometimes it can seriously backfire. I got summoned to an interview at Centrelink a while back, so I put on my best game-face, completely in the interest of coping, and made a conscious and very taxing effort to stay calm and upbeat and energised throughout the interview -- only to hear the woman interviewing me (who was a clerical person, not medical) announce as a final statement that she had decided I wasn't depressed, and so she would be recommending my benefits be cancelled. Sure enough, two days later (why the flip are they so fast in these processes when they're so bloody slowat everything else?!) I got the "you're dead to us now" letter. What, on the say-so of a clerical officer who'd spoken to me for maybe ten minutes?!! (I got it back, but it was a massive battle that ate up everything I had left in the bank, both financial and energetic, and then some. And at one point they played dirty pool by arguing that if I was capable of putting up a fight, then that proved I didn't need support. Bahh!!!)

My GP is as useless as the proverbial bull's mammaries. I'm desperate to find a replacement, but all the doctors in my area are in those turnstile medical centres, and only really allow one question per Medicare form. Bloody absurd.

Hmmm. I seem to have been born without nacre glands. Bugger.

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Heya @kenny66 ,

Thanks for your reply, buddy. Yeah, it certainly rings true for me that there's often a link between MI and overt intelligence. I really do think there's also a connection with the fact that we're pretty much forced to try to puzzle out our lives as well, and make sense of our existence. I both envy and deplore the lack of curiosity about their own existence shown by the average person not gifted with either sexual or perceptual states outside the statistical norm.

I think being gay and having an MI occuring concurrently makes for a very special person. At least I hope to think so.

I hear you, man, and i think you're compeltely entitled to that perception. I also happen to think it's true. (What, me, biased?!!)

I live in a very gentle world touched by beautiful things without any malice from within. The only hurt in my world comes from other people. outside of my world.

Oh man, you're not just gifted, you're blessed! I'm moving in that direction, but it's been co-incident with losing *all* the people I considered "friends". Through a couple of major incidents of somewhat traumatic force, I came to see how they were "friends" to a me that I'd been acting out in an attempt to gain acceptance and inclusion, but that wasn't me at all. And that in fact, these people weren't really "friends" of any kind. It was demonstrated by the upheaval of negativity that erupted from them when I simply tried to shift who I was -- not how i treated them, but how I held myself to be -- they'd have none of it, and the emotional recriminations were quite gobsmacking. (I've been helped a great deal in this by the audio lectures of Caroline Myss, in particular Energy Anatomy and Why People Don't Heal, and more deeply by the mythopoetic work of Michael Meade, Sam Keen and the awesome Robert Bly.

Matey, thanks so much for your post. It's touched me quite deeply, and ... I'm going to contemplate it for a while. I can feel it awakening in me the possibility of serenity, and that's something I've been thirsty for longer than i can say.

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Dear Aonaran,

I am so sorry, your messages are interesting and now make a lot more sense. Unlike you, I read and read but don't really have the 'quick,' skills you seem to have of writing in a clear way what's it about.
I have not written to a person who can write clearly about....say Transactional Analysis. My ex husband, bless his cotton socks, someone I miss but he can speak similar to like you write.

Don't you get like...gotta walk alone than let people do that.....put yourself thinking.....'I'm so unworthy,' stance.


I used to prefer Freud but now....
Thanks for great messages

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Y'know I've always said that to findd the smartest person in a group just look for the frootloop.

Least I think I said it.

I know I have thought it.

I may have mumbled it on occasion.

Subvocalised maybe....................

hope endures

R

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Hey @Aonaran

I hope you are travelling ok at the moment.

I have been running hot & cold with the forum lately as I have been struggling with being bullied by a horrible business owner who did some work for my neighbour & I 6 months ago. He tried to charge us 3x as much as I was quoted, then dropped it to 2x when I complained. Every time I think it's sorted he ramps up the debt/collector lawyer abuse. I also find Xmas very triggering anyway, so it has fed into that big time. Last week I came very close to a flashback, but managed to clam myself down enough with help from my psych and a friend so I wasn't so flooded.

I'm wondering about the organisation you mentioned who offer telephone counselling and who were so unprofessional and abusive. Was it ASCA?

Kindest regards,

Kristin

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Hi @kristin

@Aonaran didn't mention the name of the organisation due to our guidelines around defamation. This is territory we can't go into. I hope you understand.

Nik

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Hiya @kristin ,

Travelling? [sad smile] No, more like limping.

Had a bad crash (energetically speaking) and just haven't had the oomph to rise to meet anyone. It's the Perversity of Small Horizons ... we draw our reach in so that we can at least feel the success of grasping somethnig, but even as our fingers close around the intentionally-small target it feels so trivial, disappointing and empty.

I managed to finish trimming my front hedge (a big task, no question -- ficus bushes grow so tall and thick, the moment they think you're not looking!), even mowing the nature strip, vaccuming up all the leaves in my open porch (mostly from the trees in the street, so not even mine) so that there was no assault station for the constant stream of huge glistening surfboard cockroaches sallying forth under my front door every nightfall, seeking their little cocky fortunes and grotty nooks under my desk where they can start their scuttling little families and occasionally claw their way up my bare legs. I managed all that, then strung the little twinkling Christmas lights that variously prompted one neighbour, passing me as I put the bins out, to say, "Is this your place mate? It's lovely!" and then a carful of teenage boys slowing down, as I thought to smile at the lights, to shout "P00fter!" and then screech off, guffawing at their act of humanity as it truly is.

I came inside and just collapsed, in exhaustion and significant pain, briefly happy with my efforts ... until I reflected on the fact that a mere couple of years ago all of that would have been one concerted afternoon of doing what was needed, not requiring several days of towering self-application nor a constant stream of self-affirmation. And yet now it wearied my mind into a fog and wiped me out physically for a week. Kristin, my life has become so mind-crushingly, soul-shreddingly Small. That's the taste of bile and bitter gall that lies at the heart of my Depression, and the grief of it throws a dark, airless shadow that I struggle to emerge from. I just haven't had the substance to come here to talk with anyone.

So sorry to hear about your wrangling with a tradesman (I've just been watching snippets of the Dowager Duchess Grantham on YouTube! :chortle: ). Shocking, isn't it, to find yourself floundering in the waters of someone else's Stuff ? But good on you for having your own Rescue Remedy in place. I do hope the issues get resolved soon; I know how tedious and teeth-gritting they can be.

Kristin, I didn't mention the name of the organisation I feel so savaged by, in anticipation of the reasons that @NikNik gave. (Thanks, NikNik ! 😉 ) Although I admit, the word defamation never crossed my mind -- it's not defamation, is it, when you're telling the truth? (Oh, maybe it is. The phrase "Truth is no defence" comes to mind.) Anyway, I was telling the truth, and as I said my first instinct was to name and shame, but I won't. (Especially now NikNik has confirmed that it would be crossing a line. 🙂 ) I do find it pretty shocking that such organisations can behave however they wish, and there's nothing to hold them to account. Even if I were to formally complain and name them, even provide a transcript of the conversation. all the other professional organisations would give them the "benefit of the doubt" for the sake of "professional courtesy" and of basically having to get along. But how does that help the people these organisations are supposed to be there to be of value to? If you were to suggest the name of such an organisation, I'd probably use one of my favourite quotes and say, "You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment."

Ah, Christmas Eve. Time to deck the Santas, methinks.

And now, the Dark Days start. Bahh humbug !!

Có-dhiù ... Nollaig chridheil dhuibh uile. Merry Christmas, every one.

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Hiya @Alessandra1992 , and thanks for your likes. 🙂

How're you doing, yourself? We haven't talked a lot, but your presence on these forums is welcome and warm to me. I hope Christmas is a time of renewal for you, as it was originally devised to be.

All best wishes,

Aonaran.

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Hey @Aonaran, I am sitting watching The Godfather.. And reading lots of posts, so much to read and digest!
Thanks for your kind words, I am trying to mindfully shut up, so I do lots of liking as there's so much wisdom, support and community on these forums 🙂
Reflective time for me this time of year but also a very social one too..I think its because so many friends are on holidays we can actually make time to meet up, which I love to do! Nothing beats face time realtime, real hugs 🙂
Hope you have a peaceful Christmas and time to be with your friends or family, me, I am opting for best friend tomorrow, family on Boxing Day 🙂

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Hi Aonaran

Bad to hear about your experience with the homophobes. At least the man passing and complimenting you about the Christmas lights was a positive.

I decided I was not going to be maudlin this Christmas and not ruminate over my gut wrenching non childhood.

Tonight I have put Christmas collars on the cats-put Christmas decorations on my tall cactus, which looks kind of strange, but will do, and got some turkey cuts. My flatmate is very excited because he guesses I bought him a present, which I did.

Aonaran, I wish I could pass on to you some of my upbeat waves to cheer you up.

Matey I was reading the third book of 3 by Mart Crowley, "A breeze from the Gulf". There's a scene in there about hope for the future, just a slight scent of hope on a breeze softly whispering.

I intend to read his whole trilogy which deals with the very complex frailties of human nature, a lot of which are unpleasant.

Yes, not everyone is good but some are.

Natalie Wood wouldn't have anything to do with anyone who didn't past the "kindness test". So I try and stick to that rule.

Life can be small, constrained by our actions and the actions of others against us. Even within a small perameter life can be beautiful and delicate, worth it. There are a lot of breezes out there Aoranan with a hint of a scent of hope and renewal. You just have to pick them up.

Merry Christmas to all

Kenny

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