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Malens Babble

Malens Babble

I think Im starting to get a handle on the forum a bit more and figure that I could start my own thread for my babble rather than filling up the feed and others posts not get their appropriate time on the notice board.

Ill still post some stuff normal but most Ill post here.

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Hi Malens,

I'm new to SANE, so I've missed all of your journey through madness.

However, I share the same condition and have had all the same symptoms - apart from the physical pain.

I have to say that your circumstances put mine in the shade as I have been lucky in finding the help I need just when things were at their worst.

So i wanted to direct you to the Centre for Clinical Intervention. You can only access the courses in Perth with a psychiatric referral. However, you can also download them online.

My medication only got me back to 50% of who I was before the BP hit. At the end of the course, I enrolled myself at uni and completed an English degree.

I have recommended the online course to 3 people since I did the group 10 years ago and every single one of them has raved about it.

Anyway the information is there.

Good luck. I hope things improve for you.

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Woke up this morning at I dunno 2 or 3 am in quite a bit of pain, my back has really been unhappy with me just lately. I did take breakthrough pain killers yesterday and I dont feel like I did anything strenous. I went back to bed at like 4:30am and woke up again at around 7/7:30 again from pain. I didnt go back to bed and just sorta did nothing, I did some rubbish and wrote but still in quite a bit of pain, Im really not sure sure whaat to do about it, laying down hurts, sitting hurts, walking hurts, there doesnt seem anything I can do without pain. I got a thumping headache again. Im struggling with food still. Overall I am not happy with my back situation. I got some more rubbish to take out but I think Im going to be doing very little today, which is about the norm for at the moment.
Family do not understand how little it takes to aggrivate my back. Last night Mum asked me to make Dad and her a cuppa tea because she couldnt be bothered. Firstly, you wanting something and not feeling like making it is not sufficient enough reason for me to do it for you, I cant be bothered either, does that count. Added to this I had plans to do things, feed the dogs etc making a couple of cuppa's would have interferred with me doing that. Making a cuppa involves quite a bit of standing, then walking I have to concentrate and walk carefully while carring the cupps's. I could do 2 trips but that means more walking. Now if that was all I was to be doing then maybe, still annoyed that she cant be bothered so it fell to me, go well you know. But as I say I was to feed the dogs, that is a chore and a half for me now. I need to take a break part way through, its too much to do it all in one hit. Even with a break part way through I am in a heap of pain at the end. Pain that doesnt just go away after a few minutes, it take a long time and has quite a lasting affect.
Sister just went on again about me changing the tablecloth and I said that I had asked that she moves her stuff, which she hasnt and is leaving. So I said I probably wouldnt be doing it. She said that there was hardly anything, there is a bit but I said to her its the bending, its a slight bend to get stuff and then a few steps. When we changed it last time I had a lot of trouble with just my stuff. She doesnt seem to get that it doesn need to seem big to her but for me some stuff really aggrivates my back and it can seem small, minor or inconsequental to her but for me it causes major issues. She needs to understand that its me that says what hurts, stop making judgements and acting like you know what Im going through and trust me that Im not doing what ever you think and appreciate that Im in pain and I know what aggrivates that pain regardless of it getting in your way for me to do the thing(s) you are wanting me to do.
Dad has worn his finger tips off and shaved his knee caps, he is cementing in slate tiles, so he is having trouble doing a lot and is in a fair bit of pain. So, while it hurts like shit, Im feeding the dogs again. I have to have a break part way through but it still painful. Somehow I have to try and figure a way that I can do it differently that alieviates the pain. I feel like there is an attitude that I should stop playing funny buggers now, Dad is really hurt so your BS can stop and you can do stuff your saying you cant. Its kinda like they think the pain or my reaction to the pain is optional.
I suppose that the reaction to pain is optional, in that you can control emotions, some can perservere through the pain etc. A lot of my pain I do just deal with, I ache a lot, my shoulders seem to be screwed, they hurt randomly, my hands are sore, fingers especially, I get a lot of headaches and migranes, I have untreated ulnar nerve entrapment and so on. I dont complain about any of that, its just not significant enough but I complain about my back because it is significant. My family would not even be aware of the aches and pains, except headaches and migranes but they wouldnt be aware of all of them. I dont complain about my back heaps, I mean I say I cant do stuff etc but I dont just winge about it without cause.
Almost everyday, certainly on days where she has appointments you get asked "Do I look like shit?" "Cause I feel like shit" its her way of making sure everyone knows that she doesnt feel well, typically because for what ever reason she has stayed up all night. Its always such a deal, she makes such a fuss, if anyone else did it she would be the first to have a crack at them. I dont wake up saying do I look in pain, cause I feel in pain. I might wake up in a grump and if ask ill say its my back. I rarely bring it up, I know if I did bring it up, once off or regular it would be a deal. Heres the thing, I dont need a reminder from her that she isnt well, despite it being up to her to take her meds on time and go to sleep regularly, its kinda her choice but that doesnt make her any less sick and I understand that. I dont know why we have to have the comments so often like look at me, look at me. My back, not my fault, not sure what is wrong, its being investigated and its going to take a while. I shouldnt have to remind anyone that I am in pain and I a limited what I can do, unless told otherwise you can just assume Im in pain and its not really being controlled. But no I, at some point, need to point it out almost every day and when I do, its an issue. Double standards much.
Im so sick of the double standards in this family, especially when it comes in relation to my sister and I. She can do this, that and the other and me, no I can go out in the hot/cold, cant do it or have to consider how much money I am spending to do it. You know this smoking thing is really ticking me off, she can smoke inside but Im sent out into the cold. Then there is the heater, when sister is home its ok that its on 24/26, she goes out its dropped down to 22 because my Dad is hot, how I feel doesnt matter, despite being the one inside all day and Dad outside. God he carries on about the aircon, I just turned it on like 15min before he came in and he comes in, looks at it and winges how hot it is, I had a crack and said that I just turned it on. My sister is never wrong and if she is she will winge and bitch about what you have done until Dad or Mum side with her and tell you you're in the wrong despite all the evidence to the contry. Even if you make a mistake and own up its rubbed in as hard as it can be, even if you explain what you were trying to get across, you didnt so you're an idiot and the point you are trying to make is irrelevant, even if its still a valid point. For example the medication thing, she is being honest but its not enough I want to see the hording and finding stores stop before I feel comfortable in allowing her to have more access to her medication. To be honest, I want to hand the whole medication thing to someone else, even to her. It causes me so much stress and she doesnt make it easy at all, she is as difficult about it as she can be in her limited capacity. I have enough dealing with my own medication, taking them and the like. I dont really need to be responsible for anything to do with another person, I dont want to be. But it got dumped on me and Im doing my best but again, doesnt see that, cant see that for some reason. Its to hard for her to admit that I have actually helped her and done a decent job at it, Ive made mistakes but Im not a total Fk up at it, but if you listen to her, I might as well be.
Im really frustrated by this attitude regarding how much pain I am in, like in her opinion its just not ligitament. She has nothing to base that on, its very judgemental and completely out of line. I get she is tired, she doesnt feel well, she has mental health issues but Im not trying to add addtional work to her load, Im also not judging her when she falls asleep at the table etc. I used to try and get her to go to bed but thats a pointless excersise, kinda like trying to get her to take her meds on time. She has a fair bit on her plate, lots of appointments etc. Though her major ones are her and a worker hanging out, not like intensive therapy or something. I dont have as much on my plate at the moment, Im not doing much at home, though I have tried to take on more responcibility again, though very painful. Im feeding the dogs and taking out trash/cans. But I really cant do much, its incredibly painful to do more than just exist. I really wish that that was something my sister would understand. Its really bothering me, Ive got 3 months until the next procedure and that is diagnostic, there is no certainty that its going to do anything, I might have to have more than 1 proceedure before they work out whats wrong and then its determining if they are able to do anything. I mean there is nothing to say that they can fix what ever is wrong, this could be permanant. So, it might be something she is going to have to get used to, but certainly something she has to understand for the next few months.
Im gonna hopefully talk to Dad about this situation with my sister. He is gonna have to tell her to pull her head in about the pain stuff. I mean her attitude in general could do with being improved but so could mine too probably. The way she is/has been acting around her medication is very remeniciant of Mum. Keep digging at it, keep having goes from different angles and just wear people down. I dont know where her attitude in general is coming from, I cant put a step right, the only time you have a chance at not getting hit with attitude is if you're 100% agreeing with her, completely on her side, not challenging things at all and even then your just as likely to get slapped with attitude. This concept of its all about her, you know we go to this family meeting and she thought it would be more about her, she has said it surrounding things at home. I agree that keeping her alive is everyones primary focus but she has to realise that there are other people with illnesses and issues to be dealt with.
Sisters doctor just rang and they are wanting to increase the amount of meds that my sister can hold on to to a week. Im fine with that, as I said to her Im happy to do whatever they recommend. I mean this is not something I enjoy doing, it doesnt tick me off but its frustrating because she pushes the boundries, trying to get more, trying to them earlier etc. Just live with the rules that have been sent down and as I said when I get the OK Ill release more. Im not going to listen to her, she has tried to commit suicide twice with medication, why would I trust her with what should be done. I dont like telling her what she is to do, to enforce the rules. I dont really like having to get meds for both of us and now 3 times a day. Im supposed to remember that she has a lunch time medication and if we go out, or I go out I should organise it for her. Im not here to manage her medications, Im here to give them to her. We also have a backup of Dad having access to the safe as well.
I was watching something where someone threatened to break the jaw of a female and there was an uproar that a male would threaten a female like that. It got me thinking, why is it so much worse for a guy to hit a girl. It should be just as wrong for a girl to hit a guy, guy hits a guy, girl hits a girl. The any act of violence against another should matter and have the same outrage as a guy hitting a girl. Im not pro anyone hitting anyone, completely the opposite but this elevation of a woman in this circumstances seems unjustified. I mean I know plenty of women who physically are far more domanant then I am. If they hit me because in that instance I am the weaker sex where is the same level of outrage. No there is the opposite, I am berrated for allowing a woman to beat me up, oddly if I stopped her then we would be back tothe outrage of a guy using violence against a woman.
I tried to talk to Dad about my sister. Her attitude towards me is really starting to take a toll on me, I said I knew that it was affecting everyone and basically fobbed me off. Everyone is dealing with it and I should too, the fact that I have been treated for MH for like 10/11 years doesnt seem to matter, the fact that Ive had a psychotic break recently no biggy. Talked about the pain and he said I am not alone there. I said that no one else is on the high dose pain killers that I am, Im waiting on a procedure to determine whats wrong, I dont know if pushing it will make it worse. Im in more pain than before and I cant deal with this. This started with me not changing the damn table cloth. I had to explain yet again that I cant bend and move everything it is too painful.
Dad isnt gonna do a thing, he doesnt care about me and my health, he is soley focused on stopping my sister from attempting to commit suicide. He doesnt care or have the capacity to care about anything else. The fun thing is he doesnt really do anything towards stopping her, I look after her medications. I have the fights. He goes outside and screws about, watches TV or sits in his room. He might talk to her a bit but I guarentee he isnt challenging anything. He just expects me to fall in line and just comply with sisters demands.
I dont have any support, he doesnt get he is going to have a second child attempting suicide and this time he was directly told how to avoid it. Im not coping with this pain, mentally it is wearing on me dramatically. I go to bed knowing Im waking up in pain, be during the night or in the morning. I have months before I get anywhere further with it and even then its a test (I believe) not a solution. Im contstantly in pain despite all the pain meds, I do anything and Im in more pain. Everything is a trade off, how much pain am I willing to endure to do this activity. Others in the house are judging my pain level on criteria I dont know, they dont know the diagnosis, they dont know what the pain management specialist/surgeon has said, they dont know the outcome, they dont know anything really about the issue or the pain level. I do, I know how much pain Im in, there is no way for me to explain to them how much pain Im in, I cant give them an example. All I can do is live with it, which I am struggling to want to and live with their unfounded judgements.
Well that was fn nice, Mum actually came down to the kitchen. She sat with us for a little while, said essentially nothing to me except for a jab about getting a car, my sister hasnt slept for a few days so she was just falling asleep. Mum then says that shes going to go back to her room because whats the point as my sister keeps falling asleep. So not only does Dad not care about anything to do with me but Mum cant even acknoledge me as someone worth talking too. I wonder why I dont feel supported by my familly, hell Im starting to feel downright unloved. That said Dad has lent me money to support my sister and me. But the not caring for me wellbeing, mental or physical says a shit load and well Mum wouldnt get involved normally, but not being worth talked too when Im told I have no respect for her speaks volume.

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Im in a lot of pain this morning, I slept in so I missed my dose of pain medication by a couple hours. It lasts 12 hours and I went like 14/15hours so it would be wearing off. Also realised I hadnt changed my patch on Thursday night, its Saturday morning now, so that has worn off. I really should know better and will suffer for that today. It will take a while for the patch to start working again as it needs to build up in your system and I think its similar with the pain meds, just over a few hours where as the patch could be a day or two.
My OAB is really bad today, if I bend over quite regularly I dribble a bit. Its bad enough that I need to change and have a shower but I am waiting until it settles cause there is no point changing to wet another pair of pants. Its so embarassing and uncomfortable.
I really dont get my Dad. He has Non-hodkins Lymphoma so he is in pain all the time, he has access to pain killers but tends not to use them because he doesnt like the way he feels on them. There is nothing you can say to convince him over time that you get 'used' to it and it doesnt affect you as bad. He keeps going though, he worked for years like it but is retired now. We are on 3 acres and he does the maintenance and renovations, he pushes through the pain and keeps going.
He was laying slate tiles out the front, when it came to putting in the cement/lime/sand mix he ended up with chemical burns on his finger tips and knees from the lime. A few days after this he is out putting up sheets to make a non-see through fence, I think the main aim is to reduce the dogs barking at the dogs behind us. But he has to be in a hell of a lot of pain and he is doing this, which really isnt urgent, like it can wait a week. But Dad cant, he cant just sit and recover when he hurts himself and he wont take pain meds because it would mean he would have to take a step back and rest.
I mean he is 64 and he pushes himself like he is a 25 yr old. He has high expectations from himself because he is the only one that can do it but for the entirety of my life he has been like this, he has to be doing something, he has to be building, fixing, anything. It can be raining and he will stay outside and keep doing what he was doing.
He doest settle a little more now days at night, he will sit and watch TV, which is new, good but new.
Dad has been like this all my life and therefore never very accessable. I mean when I was a kid he was renovating our house when he wasnt working. At the time Mum was depressed, like severely depressed, so Dad was off unaccessable as he was renovating and Mum was well she was either telling you exactly what you were going to do an exactly how to do it or asleep on the lounge or crying on the lounge. My sister and I spent quite a bit of time alone with our parents.
Neither Dad or Mum were up for listening, to me at least. I retreated into my bedroom most of the time, Id listen to the radio, which would be confiscated regularly because Mum was convinced it was the reason for my bad attitude, the concept that our home life was shit didnt come into it. Id spend quite a lot of time with my gem and mineral collection, playing around with a computer or something else very nerdy. From a young age I was very isolated and it started at home.
I have been in pain for the majority of my life, I injured myself at work when I was in my early 20's and ended up in significant chronic pain with no real solution and was put through a pain management course, which is basically, your in pain, theres nothing that can be done, heres how you live with it. It helped and I still follow alot of it now days, primarily pacing so doing a little bit at a time and having breaks in the mean time so you limit the chance of agrivatting the issue.
Some stuff I avoid altogether, for good reason it immediately causes more pain. I can go from 4/5 to 8/9 very quickly doing certain tasks. Lifting anything of weight is one thing that will really cause immediate issues.
Ive had a range of procedures, specialists and doctors look at my back, all with different thoughts. Recently it was Sacroilliac Joint Dysfunction, I had the procedure for this which brought to light a secondary cause of pain which is significantly worse than what was being treated. Im even more limited than I was before and in more pain. I went from what I thought was quite a significant pain medication regime to drugs Ive never heard of and yet Im still in pain. I can go higher in dose but that would increase the reaction I have to one and if we did so with the patch I would just sleep or pass out regularly. So, Im asking if there is anything else we can try because of how limited I am regardless of the pain medication I am on.
Here's the thing Dad pushes through pretty much what ever he deals with pain wise, its like this man thing for him or something. He believes that he has to just deal with it. He has it in his mind that there is no other option but for him to push through and often its because he can get more money when he sells the house he is working on. He has a very strong financial drive, which I understand as he is relied on so heavily. But as my sister and I were just saying there is enough time for him to get stuff done later, allow himself the time to heal from the burns. He wont get over the cancer so I get having to push through that, though not as hard as he does. He can just take it at a more relaxed pace.
Im different, Ive had the benefit of some training. I know and practice pacing. I know when something is different and that I need to take a step back. I know how far I can push is, which at the moment isnt far at all, I listen to my body and see patterns. Like if I do these things I am sorer the next day.
Dad I feel sees it as me not being a man, being weak and pathetic. At the moment they dont know what is wrong, so I dont know how far I can push without potentially injuring myself further. He and my family, dont realise how much I was pushing before this issue arised, it didnt seem like I was doing much or that I was pushing because others in the family are in pain and they do more, but Im not comparing pain levels but it should be believed that I am in a lot of pain and am doing the best I can, which isnt sufficient apparently. I feel like the family considers me as lazy, though I am being active with other activities, Im not sitting vegging out, eating Cheetos and watching TV. Im doing things to improve my mental health, Im dealing with my sisters issues where I can, I am doing random bits and pieces that I can do, I mean Im back feeding the dogs and even modifying the process to accomodate my pain levels Im still in a lot of pain part way through and it just builds from there.
Im in constant pain from between my shoulders down to my butt crack, there is no position where I find absolute reliefe from the pain. The pain medications help minimise the pain and control it but only so much as when I am doing very little. If I do something then the pain becomes more intense, ill get what feels like a sword going into my back, just above the butt crack, I get pain like an anvil pressing into my spine at the pointy end, sometimes its like having your arms forced behind you excessivly, well beyound what can be tolerated, I dunno how to explain it. I get intense sharp pain my thorasic. When I walk my lumbar has intense pressure, like an extremely heavy object is pushing its way inside me.
Walking is difficult, I cant do it long before Im in pain and it doesnt take long before the pain is overwhelming. Standing I can do for even less time, especially standing still, shifting weight doesnt help much. Sitting is ok, I can do it for a while but I will move around a fair bit, sitting oddly at times, like with a corner between my legs, etc. Laying down I can probably do the longest at a time, I move about in my sleep alot but I get up a few times a night to sit, I dont know exactly why but I have to sit for an hour or so before I can go an lay again to get some more sleep. Feeding the dogs causes most of that to happen, even with a decent break half way through it feels like from my thorasic down is on fire, there is so much pressure, its not like weight on the body, its pressure that is intertwined with the spine etc. its like a tree root growing through an old swirly fence or something. One thing that really triggers pain quickly is bending, bending over multiple times is really painful, bending over slightly is insanely painful. I dont know what it is but it sets off the lower and thorasic back area like nothing else. Even bending over slightly sets it all off. Bending is not my friend, though I dont understand why sitting is so ok cause thats a lot of bending.
Then there is the pain medication, my patchs are fine but the tablets are causing me to be really itchy, especially when warm. Add the break through meds and Id like to take a rake to my face. I also get really tired with the pain killers, I dont get drowsy, like Im alert but it feels like bed time part way through the day. Then I go to bed quite early and wake up pretty late to want to sleep a few hours later. Sleep, while I am up and down alot is a significant portion of most days, days where I cant because I have other things on etc. are incredibly difficult.
Something that has bothered me, other than my family not understaning the pain is my sister doesnt sleep for days at a time for what ever reason. As far as I can tell there is a significant amount of choice in that, for example she choses not to take the med at night which helps her sleep. She takes her other meds and intends to take her sleep ones later but then it gets too late and she cant take them. Just have a set time when you take your night meds and stick to it. When she was in hospital it was 8am -1pm-8pm and it apparently worked well. Now she has come home and has now changed it so it is like 8am-1pm-10pm ish. She needs to set the times as in hospital and leave them and just go to sleep when its time too. It would be good for her to be in a proper sleep routine, which will start with adhearing to a med routine.
This isnt the thing that really bothers me, Dad is all compassionate and sympathetic to her, in general but very much regarding her sleep. Im in excessive pain, if I do anything its so much worse. But my sister choses not to sleep for days at a time and its all the love and compassion in the world for poor sister. I get that there is more to her not sleeping that a choice but I have no choice in the pain, my choice is to deal with the attitude for not doing stuff etc, to deal with the rejection, the lack of understanding, the BS because I have to slow so far down due to my pain. Where as we are all praising sister, upbeat etc. when she sleeps and we allow her to be a bitch to everyone when she doesnt.
Dad, as much as he says hes going to help my sister and everything now that he has retired has still dumped her on me. She is still my responsibility, I still do her medications, I still talk to her doctors. She might talk to Dad a bit more at night but for the most part Im the one watching over her. Then there is this thing of "is your Mum up", "whats your Mum doing" I have no idea, I never really have any idea. I rarely go down to her, I might occassionally get a text from her but thats incredibly rare. Mum and I do not talk that much, less so now that I refuse to wake her up in the mornings. So, I have no idea why I would have any information about Mum being awake, what shes doing etc. Generally, and not to sound cruel or something, I dont really care. She is old enough to wake herself, let people know that she is awake, etc. The rest of us make it known to each other at some point that we are awake and we let someone know what we are up to. Mum has chosen not to participate in this, she has isolated herself from the rest of the family and doesnt want to join in with these norms Im not going to chase her up to try and get her to be apart of this.
Now if Dad wants to know where she is, if shes awake. If he wants to chase after her (which is what she wants to happen), all power to you. But stop asking me for information about her. I am not going to start calling her again to make sure shes up, Im not chasing after her. Of all the people in the house she wants to talk to me the least, if anything she wants me to do stuff for her but she doesnt want to have a relationship beyond that and essentially we havent had one for years so I dont feel like Im missing anything.
Mum is/has been more interested in having a relationship with my sister, they were really close friends for years but that has changed in recent times. Though Mum is putting a lot of, poorly directed, effort into getting that relationship back. My sister had a significant trumatic experience in her 20's, since then Mum has pushed a very close relationship with my sister. As their relationship grew, mine and my Mums as minor as it was dwindleds. She spent as much time as possible with my sister, she and my sister would go away together, I think the relationship between my Mum and sister after the incident was important but it grew into something all encompassing and it isolated both my sister and my Mum from people in their own age groups and normal sphere of contacts. I mean Mum and sister would go on to work together, they did almost everything together and if they went out with friends, it was their friends not to each individual friend. Things broke down between them, which is where we are up to now. Which is where Mum is trying her hardest to regain the relationship they had.
Mum puts and hasnt put much effort into her and my relationship for decades. Dad doesnt put nearly the same effort as Mum does into my sisters relationship into his and mine, not that I neccessarily would want him too, it would be weird and strange, like Mums and sisters closeness they used to have. This despite Mum effectively assigning me to Dad. You take him away, you do this. Mum didnt want to do it and quite obviously neither did Dad. It was another chore he needed to do, and he was ill equiped for it. So other than a surface relationship I have little to do with either parent. I dont doubt they care for me, but showing it, I dunno I just dont feel like the effort put into a relationship with me and the effort put into a relationship with my sister is anywhere near simialar. Its like my relationship is transactional, I need something, they need something. Ive needed a fair bit in life, things havent worked out for me, especially financially. Ive put myself out there with moving out for a long time, which I did and managed until I had a brief psychotic episode. I ran a business for a number of years with a decently sized contract. I have held down a job while running the business, a job I still have, had it for 15 years. But there have been plenty of times I have needed their help. But that seems to be the extent of our relationship.
I started to go to Church and got quite active in it, Mum then started wanting me to come to stuff when Church events were on. It was like she was trying to pick an issue, selecting times where I would have to chose between Church and them. These were my friends, I was actually doing well and she had to try and pick that apart. When I was free we could never do anything, nothing was ever on when Church wasnt. But there was a number of years where getting on the same page seemed impossible and looking back kinda out of the blue. I mean they didnt want much of a relationship before Church and since Church they really havent either. Mum was there for me when I went into Fullarton Road Private, when I was having a Brief Psychotic Break.
Thats a thing with our family, when tragic events happen, when one of us is in hospital etc. someone is there, everyone gets behind them. But once its over, once it comes to dealing with the issue and ongoing maintenance, poof everyone is gone and your on your own, unless they decide they have an issue with how your dealing with it and decide to 'correct' you. Though that might just be for me, like when things happen in my life the expected response, what they should do, is done. The visable actions of what is expected, but what was behind the scenes that has a very limited life span.
I will admit that I am stand offish, I prefer my own company and I do my own thing. Though I think there is an element of my life that has caused that to be apart of my life. I think the events of my life both school and home essentially educated me to be this way. I was isolated at school and at home. I cant say Mum was a bad Mum nor Dad a bad Dad. They both have flaws, Mum was sick, Dad is similar to me or me to him. Mum and Dad loved us as best they could. But the depression for Mum, the make coffee while the rest of us sit back, the closeness of my sister and Mum, the distance between Dad and I and so on made me feel very isolated and unwanted. Then of course the information that I was accidental while my sister was planned didnt help. Maybe I read into it but there is a distinct difference between the treatment of my sister and I from an early age I would have to think that she is just a better person, a girl or just the wanted child.
For some reason my back is a lot more painful this afternoon than normal, Im actually starting to find it quite hard to deal with. Im incredibly tired, I just want to have my take my meds, have my tea and go to bed and its just on 5pm. I sent Dad a message last night about needing dog food but he obviously didnt do anything about it, so I am waiting on my sister to bring some home from the shops so I can feed the dogs. Its annoying cause I should be done now and Dad did go into town so it would have been really good if he had remembered. So I have to wait for dog food and feed them, which takes a while at the moment. Then I can worry about my stuff so I can go to bed. I didnt have a nap today which is why Im so tired and probably why the pain has increased.
I think Im a bad person, a bad son. To not be able to have any friends essentially ever, not through school, not after, to not really even have a relationship with my parents and my sister and my relationship, she cant even be honest with me and accept me and my flaws. Maybe I expect to much from people. Maybe I dont do enough to conform, to twist myself into the mold others want me in. Maybe Im just mentally unacceptable or I have too many physical defects that I cant put to the side to be who others want me to be. I dunno, maybe Im just not enough as I am, I just fall short of the expectations of others and I dont put in sufficient effort to do something about it. Maybe I just need to be someone entirely different to find some kind of acceptance either socially or family, maybe I shouldnt exist at all and then people wouldnt have to pretend or fell obligated to "be" there for me.
Of course if I said anything to the family about this, about the way I feel, about the way I feel about the way they treat me I would be wrong, not overboard, not sensitive, flat out wrong. I know this because in the past I have stated some of these feeling and that was the reception I was met with your wrong. Maybe I am, maybe they dont want to see what they are doing/not doing, maybe they just dont give a shit.
It gets me Im a big bloke, 148kg last time I checked. I drink 2ltrs of iced coffee a day which is my down fall. I like some chips occassionally and same with chocolate. Normally I eat one for a few days at a time then stop and I wont eat either for a while. I normally have 2 Lite n Easy meals a day and drink a further 4 Mothers a day, or another kind of No Sugar soft drink. Of late Ive been struggling to eat much at all, if I get 1 Lite n Easy meal down a day Im doing well. My diet has some positives but overall I wouldnt say its great. I dont excersise for obvious reasons, pain makes it a real challenge. I am going to be starting with an excersise physiologist soon however. Im kinda hoping that this will help with the pain, or at least get me moving a bit.
What I dont get is my Mum and sister are not small and complain about how big they are all the time, like my sister is on about it most days. My Mum was on about seeing the gastric surgeon again to see what can be done. Yeah all 3 of us have had gastric surgery. I personally dont care how big people are, I would like to be smaller, it would make things much easier. But my Mum and sister are great for eating take away. Like instead of getting Lite n Easy (because of the cost) they will spend twice as much on take away. But the following day and sometimes while eating it, they say Im a fat pig, or words to that affect. If eating it there will be a great big smile on my sisters face. But then one or both will say something about my weight, like having a go at me for being bigger than them makes their obesity any less, they remain just as overweight as they did before they had a dig at me, the only thing thats changed is I feel worse for a bit and want to be around them less for longer.
You know each dig, each comment, each time they deny my level of pain, each time the drag me down builds up. I think I do a good job being as pleasent as I am to them. It all turns into this mountain of hatred for me, from all of them, piled up into one. I find it hard to distinguish who said what at times particularly between my sister and my Mum. I know I dont always treat them well, but I feel like this distain for me has been there since I was young, growing each year bigger and bigger. As I got older I became more useful, so I was given tasks, like the coffee thing. That just added fuel to the fire for me. Looking back it just makes me feel so much bitterness that I had so many expectations from such an early age, I had to be so mature. I had to do stuff for Mum in particular, I dont feel like I really had an opportunity to actually have a childhood. Just as an example of stuff that goes on, and it just happened, Dad just walked out of the pantry and asked my sister if she wanted a bun, she said no but there was nothing to me asking me if I wanted a bun. Even asking how you are, I never get asked how I am, though I ask everyone I see everyday. Through out the day I ask if they are ok, especially if the dont look right, but ask me, dont be silly why would they. I rarely say much about how much pain Im in or how sick I feel, though you ask them and it would be that its constant from me. I am actually really quiet, I dont say much at all, I sit and watch TV and type on here, or do something else reserved and quiet. So the few times I talk I might say something about pain or sickness it would appear thats all I talk about, I just dont have much to say and the only thing really going on in my life is pain.
Dad clearly doesnt want to see Mum or talk to her at the moment. He seems to be doing all he can to avoid her and he is sending me down to her. He knows the steps down to her room is painful for me, because I struggle with the back steps that I have to go down to smoke because he has singled me out not to smoke in the house. I get he is in pain too but he chose to go out and put up metal sheets, tried scrubbing the tiles with a mop. He decided to do those things, where I am saying I cant do stuff. Then he sends me down to Mum to take stuff to her, then she rings me asking about yogurt which I now have to go down to her again to take to her. Though I said I have to wait until pain killers kick in which will be a while. I seriously dont understand how I can make it any more clear that I am in agony and I dont need any help to make that worse, because just being alive makes it worse.
Im incredibly tired and is immense pain tonight. Im about to have tea, my first/only meal today. The pain has been building up all day, there is an element of being pushed more and more but other than that I dont know why my pain is increasing, I cant say why its been getting worse today. The only thing I can put it down to is that I am having to feed the dogs at night, walk more and stand more and that must be aggrivating things.

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PAIN

I dont know if its completely nuts but I sent my pain management specialist/surgeon an email this morning basically to find out if there is something better pain killer wise I could be using but mainly wanting to know if there was something he could give me that suggested how much pain I can expect to experience and limitations I would have. Something I can give my family to essentially prove that Im not being pathetic and I really am in the pain I say. I said to him if I am being pathetic to tell me. You know Im not ruling out that Im being over cautious, that I have a low pain threshold or something else but I am hoping that he can provide some indication so I can tell my family to go jump.
The concept of a low pain threshold is stupid, a) if one did have one then that person would feel pain more intensily and therefore be in subjectivley the same amount of pain. b) pain is felt differently one person to the next, there is no subjective way to determine the pain level being felt by any one person and get an accuriate indication of the amount of pain that person is feeling.
The pain scale things in hospitals piss me off as well, from 1 - 10 with 1 being the least and 10 being the most pain you have ever felt where are you on the scale. Well Ive felt some amazing pain in my life a 5 from me might be a 10 for another person based purely on experience. Ive had testiular torsion, incredibly painful, like nothing else. Ive had gallbladder issues, again intense pain, Ive had injections into my facet joints, the list goes on. I know what pain is so my 10 is a pretty high target. If I was to go in and say where the pain rated on a 1-10 scale with the pain I have felt in mind then Id rarely get over a 3/4. If I am asked the pain level 1-10 I take out the more significant pain experiences and work on that. If I was to do that at the moment I would have a base pain of 5 and it would rapidly go to an 8-9.
Pain is a very difficult thing to determine in another, but people seem to want to try and then enforce their belief of how much pain a person is in upon the person thats in the pain for what ever reason. Be it easier to think the person isnt suffering as much as they say, to feel justified in increasing your expectations of that person, basically it is easier to believe a person is in less pain than to think they are being truthful or underselling it for your own purpose.
I dont understand why people try to deny, dismiss or minimise other peoples pain. The only reason I can come up with is then they dont have to accept the limitations the person has and can expect them to do more than they can realistically do.
It may be no suprise that this is an issue I am facing. I have previously written about it on a number of occassions. I am really not sure what to do about the attitude and hostility that I am receiving which seems centred around my limitation and my pain. I get that I am doing less than I was, for a while there while my sister was in hospital I was quite active. Prior to that I struggled due to pain. I have stuggled for a very long time, different treatments etc have provided different amounts of relief which has allowed me to have less limitations, I swear better mental states assist in this also. What I have done is whenever I can I lower my limitations and do more until I cant. At the moment be it a condition or injury that has presented itself after the last procedure, be it exaserbated by my current mental state or what ever it might be, I am in more pain than I can deal with and there are currently a lot of limitations. Its not something I am happy about. I dont like being in pain, I dont like the amount of pain medication I am on, I dont like that I will be having another procedure and this is likely one of atleast two before I have any long lasting relief. There is not much about this, actually anything about this that I am liking or enjoying.
What makes it harder is the attitude and hostility from family because of my limitations. If I had been visibly disabled, then the limitations would be obvious and in their face and there would be no denying, dismissing or minimising. No one would say or indicate that they didnt believe that I was unable to do something there would be no argument. But because they cant see it, because they cant feel it then its magically not really there its, I can be denied, dissmissed or minimised, my pain becomes irrelevant in the discussion of the activities I can actually do.
There is quite a bit I do for myself that hurts because its not fair to ask it of others. I buy drinks and smokes pretty much every morning, which is a drive into town and carrying a quite heavy bag. Its not overly strenous but I would rather not do it because it does start my day off in pain, but its a choice that I have made to continue with all of these things and its not fair to put it on others. I walk down steps to have a smoke, its painful but I like to smoke but that doesnt mean I can repeatedly go down the steps to Mums room, it hurts, the steps are smaller and there is a lot of crap around it which makes it even more difficult to get up and down. I still do it, Id rather not.
I drive myself to my appointments, again I dont need someone doing it for me but it hurts, but it hurts to be in the passanger seat too. Especially if my Dad is driving, he is a very aggressive driver and you tend to get thrown from one side to the other so its probably less painful for me to take myself than have Dad drive me.
I have been walking to the family therapy -1 appointments. Its a bit of a walk, Im slow which has been pointed out, but I go for my sisters, and the families sake. Its painful to walk that far without a break, though its not noticed.
I am walking better than I was after the procedure however I am on a fair bit more pain medication and it seems to be less painful to walk properly and get there quicker than it was to walk in less pain but take longer, I basically shuffled everywhere. Im doing the dogs food at night but this is a very painful process requiring multiple breaks but Im still in a lot of pain by the time Im finished. Im doing this again because Dad has chemical burns on his finger tips and it was too painful for him.
Im taking out the rubbish, recycling and cans, its walking and its not overly far. I can do one load, then the next and the last with breaks inbetween. Its a small thing but something Dad doesnt have to do. If I am cautious and take adequate breaks I dont end up in too much pain from doing this.
I worry about my own meals, Dad brings in my esky from Lite n Easy but thats as much involvement he has in my meals. I do my own laundry, while a painful experience it always seems to be a big deal for Dad to hang the clothes out for me. Generally I do a load of washing and hang out 1/2 the load at a time.
I was asked again to load and unload the dishwasher but thats something I cant do, the repetitive bending is too much and there are not enough breaks and accomodations I can make to make doing this task possible.
I probably dont look like I am in a lot of pain, its not something that shows on my face much, it actually takes a bit for my pain or sickness to show on my face. The last time was when I had pnemonia and I had what family said was a grey face. My sister you can normally tell, her face shows her pain/sickness quite a lot. I walk pretty normally, my feet drag a little but you would have to be paying attention to how Im walking to notice as I am normally in ugg boots or thongs (I cant get sneakers on). I also do my own thing, I got back and forward for smokes, I make my tea (microwave meals), you know I am reasonably self-sufficient. Maybe this plays a role in why family think I can do more or that Im not doing enough.
I struggle with being very tired. I tend to sleep alot when I can, ie dont have doctors appointments, Ill go to bed 7/8pm, wake up a few times for 45min-1hr generally. Then I wake up around 10am, earlier if I have an appointment. If I dont have appointments I will generally have a nap in the afternoon. This is due to the pain meds Im on, but it does bug the family a bit but its a struggle to stay awake any more than that. I am writing this fighting the urge to go have a sleep. It can be quite intense. When you have appointments etc it can be really hard to fight the urge to have a nap, trying to stay awake for the appointment and getting around.
Mentally this is all very draining, it takes so much more effort to do anything, you have to concentrate on everything you do, how you walk, how you bend, how you're sitting, everything. Its continous monitoring of you and how you're interacting with the world. It takes a lot of brain power and effort.
My depression has worsened with all this, thought of suicide are frequent, its just an escape from the pain (for the purposes of this). Most the time I would do anything to be out of this pain, suicide included. You feel like there is no escape, Im sad (generally speaking) all the time, there no hope in this world, even though I know that I have a procedure coming up but still I am not hopeful that they will find out whats wrong or that they wont be able to treat it. Each day feels so long and so much like the last. Its just day after day of pain, sadness, dispaire. Day after day without hope, joy or any real positivity in my life. I just want it to end.
The medication doesnt help, relying on yet another pill to make the day barely bareable, I think Im on 17 or 18 at the moment, it is a lot, less than I have been on, but still alot. The money they costs adds to your financial stressors. Much of my medication is sedative which I think has an affect on depression, it does help with the pain that I will agree on. But it has side affects that influence your mood, the tiredness, OMG the itchiness. Medication comes with some real benefits but can have some significant down sides. I will say my anxiety seems to be reducing significantly the longer I am on the pain medicatiion.
My base pain is much higher than normal today, its taking very little to increase the pain dramatically. Im really tired, I was up a bit last night but the increase in pain wears me out more. I have a big day tomorrow, I have an appointment with the urologist in the morning and then the family therapy -1 in the afternoon. I expect there to be far more walking than normal tomorrow and potentially chairs that are not me friend

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Stirring the pot

My sister really loves to stir up trouble. Today Mum came down and my sister was winging to my Mum about the stuff my Dad is getting her to buy or the stuff she has bought on his behalf. He needed Sudocream so my sister bought it for him the following morning, before Dad would have had a chance to buy it himself. Shes been asked to buy dog food a couple times as she was in town. Theres a few more examples she gave this morning.
Last night she was winging about Mum getting her to buy her take out food and how Mum was paying for last nights.
She goes to Mum and Dad over every little thing I do that she takes issue with. I was putting fuel in the car while we were sharing it, It always had fuel in the tank to get back into town etc. Sister brought it home 3 times on empty. I didnt/dont drive that much, its into town for the servo and my appointments. My sister drives a bit more than that. That of course was a deal to be speak to both parents because she felt she was putting in more fuel than me, the fact that she should cause she drove more than me didnt seem to matter.
But the point is, she is constantly telling on people to people within the family, I mean I do get winged to about Mum, often for good reason, often not, its like she enjoys stirring the pot, telling on each person in the family. I dont get it, I mean when I have an issue I will go to Dad or Mum about sister, sometimes direct to sister but it depends on what the problem is. Like Dad allowing her to smoke inside, thats a Dad issue. Sister not taking pills thats a me. If I have a problem with a parent I will generally address it with them direct. Like everyone I winge about family with other family, but its not regular thing where I am going one to the other. Im not trying to stir up things as it seems she is.
The answer for both issues is she was on about this morning and last night, stop buying things for others. She was winging that she had to pay for her own meals, well you 41 you probably should, added to which I have to. Instead of winging about everything, take some responsibility and say no. She is on about moving out, her support people are helping her achieve this goal. All power to her, but she has no idea how much support she gets from Dad. I think she will be in for a rude shock because Dad cant support her living out of home.
Dad seems to need a bad guy, Mum generally gets it, occassionally my sister but at the moment it seems to be me. Its not something I really need at the moment, mentally I know I am pretty fragile. Dad and I were quite close while my sister was in hospital. We were talking regularly, working out things together, you know we had a reasonable relationship. Ever since my sister came home he has been colder and colder to me. He seems to have a real attitude towards me and I cant put my finger on why for sure. Im assuming it is because I am doing less, that he is been needed with inhouse chores more than he would like. It doesnt matter that Im in pain, he doesnt want to keep cleaning and doing household tasks. I mean I get he is in pain too, so Im not suggesting that he do stuff that he cant, we both need to be mindful of each others pain. On the other hand, he is currently outside doing I dont know what. I do know he was collecting dog crap earlier, he's watered plants and other stuff. Which is fine and Im not having a go about that, but I couldnt even walk around enough to go to each bit of poop over the course of the entire day, let alone actually pick up the dog poop. Its not sheer will or something that is going to get me to manage to walk around like that. I am using all my motivation, all my will to do the things I am doing and I with he and the family would realise that.
My sister has an attitude about it as well, with random comments made but that is completely to be expected. She has a great caring side but it only lasts so long. Its like she can only deal with/care for one of us for so long before she decides that enough is enough and you should be able to deal with it now.
Mum is very much like my sister but in this instance she has been very understanding, probably the most understanding out of the lot. Mum does have back issues, though if she organised her procedure she wouldnt be in pain, so she has an understanding of what Im going through. Mum has days where she is capable of doing stuff, where as I dont. But she still asks me to do stuff, not much but it can be annoying. She is currently the most understanding of the lot, but I am well aware that could change at the drop of a hat.
I didnt get a nap today, Im finding them hard to get at the moment cause Im sleeping in and Im feeding the dogs. So Im having an early night, aiming for like 6:30/7pm. Im in a fair bit of pain this tonight, not sure whats going on but today has been a day of pain. I kinda just want to try and sleep it away. Im hoping tomorrow is better, its gonna be a long day, with lots of walking so I expect Im gonna be sore tomorrow as well.

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Re: Stirring the pot

It sounds so hard @ClockFace .

What do you think will help at this time?

You can't "get away" from what's happening at home, so how do you think you can disconnect from it all in order to look after your own mental health?

Then again, is having a break from it all what you are looking for? I don't want to make assumptions and jump to conclusions.

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Re: Stirring the pot

@tyme

We are doing family therapy and Im really hoping that it will change things at home. I said to Dad about it today and he said that he sees it to.

Some stuff just needs to stop, a break isnt enough. Some of it is so detrimental to everyone and its not fair. Im sure I do stuff that people want me to stop and if it comes up and its fair then of course I will but most stuff Ive been asked to stop is just not something I can and asking me to isnt fair.

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Today just sucked

Its a big day today. We have the dog groomer here at the moment 8:30am to do 4x dogs so thats gonna take a while. I have to leave at 10:45am for my Urologist appointment in the city. Then at 4 we have Family Therapy -1. I was going to stay in the city instead of going home but Ive realised we will be in the CBD, like the heart of it and when we finish will be peak hour and Im not sure that Im up to driving in that. I struggle when Im well, I think at the moment it would be a lot more than struggle. So, Im probably gonna come home after the Urologist and drive back down with Dad. It does mean a lot of driving, far more than what I would like but its a choice between mental and physical pain, mentally I dont know I can do it. Physically, I can take more pain medication, while it makes me itchy as hell it does reduce the pain.
Im not sure about the Urologist appointment. I mean the blood in the urine has pretty well stopped, though my pee did look pretty well brown last week. Any which way I need a new Urologist for my continued treatment of the Bladder Cancer. I imagine after seeing him it wont be long before I have another cystoscopy just to check where things are at. I am really hopeful that he offers the option to be sedated for the procedure, after the last procedure, even though its a different doctor I am really anxious about doing it with the gel. I hope hes nice, Im not a fan of men in general, those doing my medical concerns even more so but you dont get much of a choice in Urology, in fact I havent come across a female Urologist. Which makes sense because its primary male patients, its very male dominated. But you would think the same for gynocologists, I mean thats all female clients, there seems to be a good number of female practitioners, but it does seem very heavily dominated by males. That seems weird to me. Why so many male gynos and so few female Urologist, even though women can be patients of urologists while men cant be patients of a Gyno. Seems to make me think women are being respectful of men or they cant/ dont think they can make any money in this field. Men are historically the only doctors for crappy reasons, this meant that they had to be gynos and I think that normalised men in the field, but not represented in Urology in reverse.
So the urologist appointment has been postpone until the15/7. It was just getting too hard, I had the appointment booked months in advance but then they booked the dog grooming. My sister got in on the cancellation list for her therapist and Mum booked an appointment with her GP all over lapping. We have 3 cars, but 1 isnt really usuable except for by Dad. There was a heap of different ideas how to deal with it but none worked or made sense so if no one else was willing to do something about their appointment, I did. I mean, I really cant understand why Mum couldnt move the GP appointment a day or 2 later, or why she made it on the same day as everyone elses appointments, her Doctor said he wanted to see her so in her mind that was enough and she was more important than anyone else. We couldnt change the Dog Grooming because we had changed it around so much, I mean the dogs being cleaned was so much more important than following up with my Bladder Cancer.
I really cant believe it, I have Bladder Cancer, Cancer FFS and I need to follow it up regularly and I have to give up my appointment because everyone else has screwed it up. If they paid a little attention to what was going on we could have sorted something out. I told my sister (she was asleep at the time), and she really didnt seem to care. I got that "I wish I could cancel some of my appointments". I didnt want to cancel it, I had been forced into a corner where I had to cancel mine because I dont own a car, Im irresponcible with my money and cant afford one so its just tough shit for me.
Dad seemed suprised that I cancelled, because it was important. but he kinda helped push me to that. He is in a bad way today, he isnt feeling well, he is in a bad mood and in a lot of pain. So he didnt want to deal with the issue but he still wasnt terribly happy about my decision.
My sister said that "at least your home now to help Dad". I said that I dont really think thats where I feel at the moment. It doesnt seem to something her that I am actually needing the appointment to follow up on Bladder Cancer. Its as if she feels like its not a big deal, like there is little impact. Organising for the next Cystoscopy is kinda important. The earlier I catch each tumor (Ive had 1) and have it removed the better. I dont know if I am going from a low grade to a high grade and as far as I know that can happen significantly between treatment. Its a Cancer that you have to keep on top of and its been a while since I saw an Urologist as I fired my last old one.
The family Therapy -1 Im not passing judgement on as yet, but I wasnt convinced last week that there was any benefit of me being there at all. My sister seems to think its all about her, my understanding it was to help Dad, me and her but she is very much pushing it to be all about her and winging that its not. There is a significant part that is about my sister, they want her to contact them a few times a day to make sure she is ok. But alot of her stuff interacts with the rest of the family and our stories mix together, we are a family after all.
In the first meeting, the only one we've had so far, I essentially provided no input. It was bassically worthless me going. They talked about my sisters and Dads supports and illnesses but didnt even comment on mine, I mean we bounced around a bit and didnt really stick on a topic but you would think that what I have going on would be worth mentioning. I do my best to not see this as a deliberate slight against me but 2 out of 3 asked about their conditions and supports and one person ignored seems a bit of well F you. I dunno well see if they come back to me today or if they just skip along merrily to the next topic.
As Dad isnt going well today both my sister and I gave him an out for today. My sister suggested about her going alone, just her, I said that its not much point, its Family Therapy but she again thinks its about her so her alone is good enough. I mean it could have been her and I without Dad but that doesnt even seem to be a thought. This is Family Therapy not another therapy for my sister, I mean she has quite a few different therapy and support avenues, this is to help our family get on track together and resolve the issues surrounding my Mum.
My sister just said that she doesnt do well with the attitude changes, eg Dad. Because everyones moods and attitudes should revolve around her and her ability to cope. Its really frustrating how she has this attitude that everything revolves around her and what she can deal with. It doesnt, I mean her attitudes and mood changes influence me but I cant have a problem with them. Its this attitude that I can be and feel how I want, I can do and act how I want to but you must take into account how everything that could be a problem for my sister. The mental health conditions of others need to go on hold so my sister can deal with her own. Its just not how it works, we are all alive, we all have mental health conditions, we are all in pain that doesnt give anyone the right to make their whole world, their circle of influence put their emotional life to the side.
So Mum slept in. She was woken multiple times but refused to get out of bed. Dad took her appointment. But what that really means is I could have gone to mine. Mum didn't need her car, where I did and I could have seen my Urologist. So shitty. Everything we all went through for her not to get out of bed in the end. Trying to make arrangements for all of us to get to our appointments somehow and me eventually reschedualling, all for her not to get out of fricken bed. She could have told us to cancel it and I could have gone to mine. So many thingss could of happened that allowed me to go to mine if she wasnt going to hers if she was just going to sleep through it. Wild.
I'm now in a lot of pain. Dad needed help getting one of the dogs into the dog groomers trailer, he picked up the front and I thought to myself, this is gonna hurt a lot and picked up the back end. I was right, it hurt a lot, tack on some longer distance walking, sitting out in the cold and my back absolutly hates me and I still got to go to and come home from the Family Therapy -1 session. It will be too early to feed the dogs before leaving, it will be late when we get back, but I think, Im almost certain, that I am going to need my Dads help to feed the dogs, I think Ill be starting too far in the red pain wise to have effort in the tank to deal with the pain from feeding dogs.
Pain is kinda like a a scale thing. Base pain is zero as you have a good day you go into the positive, its rare but a good day might happen. As you do stuff that taxes you pain wise you go into the negative, into the red. You rest and you return to your base level. The more intense the activity your doing, the more taxing the more into the red you go and the more rest you need to recover. Over the last little while I tend to go into the red early on, I might recover a bit then have to do something more and go further into the red and repeat. Im not really getting enough recovery time, it doesnt need to be big, little walks and stuff make for a minor taxing, but combined, then feeding dogs, going out for a smoke, tidying up etc and shorter breaks, less effective breaks (sitting isnt doing as well as it was), no naps, more appointments. Im just goingo to bed in the red which means its harder for me to fall asleep and remain comfortable over night.
Spoke to my Pain Management Specialist today he said basically that pain medication wise increasing what I am taking will do little and what Im on is as good as it gets. Essentially, pain medication wise there is nothing we can do. As for the amount of pain what I am saying he would think is reasonable, Im in pain which is to be expected and the amount Im saying im in is not unreasonable. So Im not being pathetic, Im not putting it on, Im actually in pain and that should be enough. He did say for some people what he says and what I say will never be enough, people are just going to believe what they want to believe.
We had our Family Therapy -1 and it was ok. We went through my stuff a bit more and sisters stuff more intensily. Dad was in a feral mood, he was pretty rude. He is in a lot of pain, he is very frustrated, from what I can tell primarily with Mum. Though still feels like he is pretty shitty with me. He is angry, he was angry about the whole appointment thing where I was unable to go to mine. Im actually wondering if he is getting pretty shitty with my sister, she is on this all about me thing and being pretty inconsiderate to others, including Dad. Shes not really treating him, or anyone well. Personally Im pretty sick of it, the way she is talking and interacting with me, as Ive said before, is just rude. Worse thing I dont think she even relises the negative impact she is having on the rest of the family.
I have wound up in a lot of pain tonight, ive taken extra pain killers to cope. Im in so much pain that eating isnt an option. Right now I just want to sleep.

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Hi @ClockFace

Sorry to hear what you’re going through at the moment. It sounds incredibly challenging to live with that level of pain, as well as to be managing treatment for bladder cancer with what sounds like not a lot of support from your family.

Have you been able to rebook your appointment with the urologist? It sounds like the challenge of working around everyone in your family can be really overwhelming and make it difficult to prioritise your own health. Your health is so important. I’m glad to hear that you have started family therapy. I hope it helps everyone to see each other’s needs; and your family can begin to support you more with your treatment.

Wishing you all the best for the next session. Is there anything in particular that you hope to be able to share during the session?

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@Former-Member

Not so much share. I want Dad and sister to get on the same page and set and enforce boundries. At the moment they make them and 5sec later they are giving in cause Mum argued with them. Or they're telling me to do things Ive set boundries against. There is some stuff Im just not dealing with anymore and if they are going to continue, they should respect Im not and then not have a fight with me cause I stuck to it.

I suppose theres plenty to share, the way I feel by the way they treat me etc but I dont see a point in that because that will never change. Ive spoken about it in the past and told I was wrong so. But the boundry thing, thats important for everyone.

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