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Multiple Viewpoints: Mental Illness is NOT for Dummies

Multiple Viewpoints: Mental Illness is NOT for Dummies

As a person who has experienced mental health issues from a range of viewpoints and who has worked hard to overcome stigma in the community I make this slightly tongue in cheek comment. I hope it does not offend anybody.

Last week I started an online course about caring for People with Psychosis. It is good to learn that most my knowledge is sound. It has a good range of highly qualified psychiatrists on it and has more of a UK than a US slant, which caters to my preferences.

I am not leaving the forum, but will be logging on less. I dont like divisive tactics or popularity contests (too much of a loner) but dont want to contribute to anything that would cause anyone distress.

I was horrified about the Gold Coast teen drug hospitalisations this week. Rather than hysteria about drug use or the range of other symptoms of human dis-ease I do try to be calm and analytical. I also try and use my stories for the good.

How we go about questions of human living is open to debate ... as it should be.

Regards to anyone who reads this.

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I am so sorry you've become so unwell @Appleblossom. I am not sure how best to respond at the moment other to say I am here to listen if you need and is there anything I can do ( which I realise means chat about) that would help. Sometimes for me just having human interactions the forums albeit cyber interaction has helped. I'm wondering if there is anything that we could do to help you with in the confines of the forum. It doesn't seem much I realise.

I had a similar battle to you at the beginning of the year for the first four months trying to access the help I desperately needed. I know they are massively understaffed and underfunded but they've also lost the ability to see us as individual unique people and not clients often. I really hope you find some inroads into some real support.

Thinking of you @Appleblossom 💕

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Hi @Appleblossom

I am sorry to read that you are not well and struggling. Sending you lots of hugs and positive and healthy vibes coming your way 🙂

Take as much as you need to get back on track. Take care, thinking of you. xxxooo

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Thank you @Former-Member

It actually just makes a difference that I can get my point across and that someone replied.

I did finally get through to my psychologist and had a good phone session so she is up to speed. it was just 40 mins later than it had been booked.

Sorry @utopia I know you really mean well ...

Pumpkin soup was good. Told son that he probably should cancel his choir as he was supposed to 2 solos tonight ... he has had a gruelling few days too. ... but remembered to bring in the bins without being reminded .. so that is BIG.

I was distressed when I started to post on the forums ... which is well over a year now. Even before that ... I present too well most of the time.

I just threw the shower water out on the garden and ran into my neighbour .. she would have seen the police and ambos .. so i gave her the short version.

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@Appleblossom. You are definitely right. I have been sheltered from a lot of the horrors, others on this site have had to go through.
No I've never been sick enough to need an ambulance to take me to hospital. I was usually the one phoning the ambulance - while the psych nurses I worked with - stayed with the client.
What I do know is that the public health system for psych is the worst area of the public health system.
Even in the community mental health area - we kept turning people away - as we were only able to take the sickest. These were clients that should have been in a safe inpatient unit - but again - they couldn't take them either. Every hospital funds cut cones out of mental health first. The system is sicker than the patients. Not that that helps you.
I truly am sorry that you have had to deal with the incompetence of our system. It's not right and it certainly isn't bloody fair.
I hope someone pulls their finger out & helps you as you deserve.
Sending you my best.

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Re: Multiple Viewpoints: Mental Illness is NOT for Dummies

@Appleblossom. Sorry I wasn't able to support you or understand - as you needed. I don't take offence. You are frustrated & I didn't get it.
I'm just glad that you have support on this site from others who do have an understanding.

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I'm glad you've had that Skype support. I'm hoping it was helpful @Appleblossom. Yep my boys bringing the bins in without being asked is a huge 👍 for me too.
My new neighbour came over two weeks ago and I told her that I'd come for coffee in the afternoon. By the time the afternoon had come I was in crisis and didn't make it. I've been in crisis on and off since then and now have to face her and explain why I just haven't shown up. Today I bought her some carnations and I hope to see her tonight or tomorrow but I'll have to explain a bit too. This is the first house I haven't had an ambulance or police to for a couple. Nearly broke that on Tuesday myself.
Please keep chatting if it helps. Sending hugs🤗😊💐💜

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Hi @Appleblossom

So sorry to read that you are unwell my friend. Sending warm hugs ❤️ Will miss you around here - but the main thing is that you heal, doing what is best for you.

Did anything in particular trigger this relapse/emergency? Grief/loss/lonliness/stress? Here if you want to talk 🌹 xx

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Thank you @utopia I am aware the services are stretched, but there have been silly little glitches all the way .. just confirms my skepticism of a world overly reliant on computers.

It was multiple stressors @Former-Member about 6 things 1) talking about a horrible youtube "feminist indoctrination about violence against women" and the reality that I nearly died in my marriage but my son thinks I didnt try hard enough.

2) an issue about an old choir that I have posted about before which involved bullying and hipocrisy about mental health, which somehow entered my kitchen last week becasue son's gf joined it and asked son to work the oratorio with her.

3) And a silly person rushed out on the road the day before when I was driving and played chicken with me riding his bicycle in and out of the main lane of traffic. ie a random event

4) I joked to my son a month ago that I would put myself in hospital to get him to put out the bins. I wasnt serious then but pretty weary.

5) I was reading in my course about Caring for People with Psychosis that I was supposed to be more careful about dealing with their motivation. It suggested that there were worse outcomes if the carer couldnt control their frustration ... hmm

6) On Friday an 80 yo friend of my son who is a user was making noises about me becoming her driver again .. so I can take her to pleasant cultural events like I used to ...I was pleasant at the event as it was convivial ... she is really incorrigible and doesnt get how badly behaved she is ... cos she knows famour Hollywood and New England (US) people I guess .. I really really really do not want to be her driver again... I have sent her an email saying it is not really possible and made all the arrangements so I can take a bit of sick time off for me..

It was not a 'deliberate' event. It happened before I knew it.

@Former-Member short version - lack of support (even tho I have been working hard to set it up) loneliness and long term consequences of serious grief.

It does help to see a few people respond to my thread. thanks

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@Appleblossom wrote:

@Former-Member short version - lack of support (even tho I have been working hard to set it up) loneliness and long term consequences of serious grief.

It does help to see a few people respond to my thread. thanks


This is what I thought @Appleblossom. I have been there and I understand. I want you to know that I will always be there for you no matter what. I hope this eases your burden a little. No one should go through what you are going through, what I have been through, alone.

My psychologist of 5 years ago said to me if she was given a dollar for every patient that told her they would not be on medication if only they had support she would be a multi billionaire. A sad reflection on society really. I found the same - little to no support. I did have a husband there but he was going through his own hurts and stressors with our daughter. So basically I had to struggle alone. This is why this forum is so needed and a positive thing.

From what I have read of your posts my friend - a lot of your scars/grief relates back to your ex-husband. And the lack of support you receive from your son and girlfriend on this matter and generally; - the latter person seeming to inflame your pain this way a lot. And your good heartedness being used and abused. It's not on.

I am glad you said no to the driving of your sons 80 yr old friend. There is a big difference between helping others and being taken advantage of. It's the right thing to say no at times.

What I really believe would be good for you right now is to get away from it all for awhile. Just hopping in the car and driving into the moonlight for an adventure. To enjoy life again - to laugh again - to do something fun and good for you. To be carefree for awhile. Where you will have no triggers or reminders of your pain. No stress or pressure for awhile. And no competitiveness when in groups or socialising. No responsibilities for awhile. Just doing what you have always wanted to do and set off into the sunset. Simply soaking up nature and its perfume of peace. It invigorates the soul where along the journey of life it has become so complicated and painful. Now it's time "to simply be somewhere peaceful". Visual this - does it uplift you? If so let nothing stop you if it is at all possible.

There are many retreats that you could explore - they could be nature get-always, hobby retreats (where no competitiveness exists, just mutual pleasure in the interest), spiritual retreats if that's your thing, or bushwalking ones etc - so many. Just to get away somewhere that intrigues you and you can find some time to get you back - in touch with feeling some contentment again.

Have you ever thought about a cruise? I have a friend who lost her husband suddenly to a heart attack (she is 55, he was 48). After some initial grieving she was starting to feel overwhelmed and she would explode with stress over anything. So she decided to go on a cruise to the islands on her own (her way of being in an environment to properly grieve as well), and did meet some friends this way. She is much better and laughing again.

I have another friend whom lost her family through estrangement (over inheritance) and she is single with no children. She was deeply depressed. She just packed up her car and dogs and found a nice place and went camping by the sea. She comes back refreshed and happy. They both do this regularly now. It doesn't cost them a lot either so it suits all budgets.

I had another friend whose partner cheated on her (he was also violent) and took her home. She just hopped in the car one day and kept driving and driving. Loved ones where getting worried about her. She ended up on the other side of the earth - Darwin (reminds me of Forrest Gump abit, lol). She knew no one. She rented small acreage there, bought some horses and ponies started a business, made new friends and has been there now for 8 years and loves it. She has just started a new relationship with a man as of yesterday - I wish her the best she deserves it. Sometimes though when things gets too much and overwhelmed we just need to get away a d take a risk (maybe not that drastic though, lol).

What really picks them up and gives them reprieve from their grief is getting away, having fun and learning to laugh again. The latter is so important. Myself and friends go out once a week and do just that. We have a relaxing good time and it helps our mental health no end. Our problems are sometimes there when we get back but we are stronger to face it after having some reprieveit. It's a sanity enhancer. And it needs to be with people who do not trigger us but whom value us - or just go out ourselves alone and enjoy events.

It's absolutely vital to do something to distress or life/grief will overwhelm us.

When your son and gf brings up subjects such as "you should of tried harder" (excusing violence where there is no excuse) - walk away. Make it clear that this is not up for discussion - block it out. If they are not going to be sensitive to your needs and welfare that's when you protect yourself. Keeping an emotional distance. This is what keeps me going.

I make a strict rule to myself that when I do get away or am enjoying peace and quiet - I won't talk about on dwell on my grief and problems. Even if just for a day or two if that's all I can manage. It helps keep that equilibrium and aids towards healing.

But there are also those days we need to get things off our chests. Please know you can always do that here. You will always be respected and listened to as here you are highly valued. Have you ever had grief counselling?

Other than that getting away and having some fun and laughs is the best therapy. And meeting different people this way, surrounding ourselves with positive respectful individuals who may be in the same boat this way, eases the lonliness. And that in itself is support.

What do you think @Appleblossom - time to take the plunge? It's time for you now my friend, to value you and surround yourself with individuals that make you feel that way. It's time you had your share of happiness - putting the past to one side and everyone else to another for awhile. It's your time to heal. Sending you warm hugs and much love - your friend OTE xxx 💕

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Re: Multiple Viewpoints: Mental Illness is NOT for Dummies

@Appleblossom, how ya cooling? In my opinion, the big difference between those who 'do well' and those who don't, is SUPPORT!
I have grown weary of doing everything alone, but I don't want to become one of the many 'takers' either. Not sure what the answer is.
Thinking of you. Just be your self, take all the time you need 🙂
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