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Whatever Gets You Thru the Night

Whatever Gets You Thru the Night

C/W; suicidal ideation

I am right now in the middle of a court case which could see me tipped out of my house.

It's incredibly stressful. We are not represented by a lawyer.

This situation has been threatening all year and all year I have had extreme anxiety to the point where I often can't eat.

I am triggered out of my mind. I have a long history of suicidal ideation and the only thing that is keeping me here is my fifteen-year-old son and what it would do to him.

The first hearing of the case is on Friday. I so want to not be here but I am trying to make plans for the weekend to give me something to look forward to. This post is me trying to get through the next ten minutes, the next hour.

Oh ... and I have had many years of living with BPD. It's ruined my life in many ways ... and the person that I blame the most for the childhood emotional neglect that led to my BPD? Well ... she's the one trying to take my house from me.

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Gosh, you write well, @Jon840 . It's a pleasure to read (despite what you are suffering and going through, of course.)

You said that the SI will increase today, with the court case...so I wanted to write and say I'm sending you good thoughts and wishes. Please let us know how the court case goes today. I am wishing for strength for you, and endurance, and hope, and that your SI will be moderate enough for you to withstand it. Also for a good outcome from the court case for you, so that you can stay in your house. Also for enough support for you, at the time when you need it.

Regarding forgiveness...I agree that it's ideal for yourself (speaking generically) if you can forgive the abusive person. However, I was troubled, like you, because I found that so far I am unable to forgive my severely emotionally abusive father, despite working on it on and off for years. Then my psycholgosit said to me, "Some things are too deep and damaging to forgive." This allowed me to stop beating myself up for not being able to forgive him, and to just wait and see. If I find myself able to forgive him down the track, that will be good for me. If not, then it's OK.

Good luck today, @Jon840 ...

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Ditto to @NatureLover , @Jon840 . Thinking of you.

BPDSurvivor

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Hey @Jon840

Ditto as everyone one else. Hoping today was productive whatever the outcomes.

You mentioned the blues and i have been thinking this year how good it would be to create a roadhouse blues mental health hub "Where the futures uncertain and the end is always near"

When i talk about seeking forgiveness, I don't ask people to seek forgiveness from others because as you mentioned, it is not possible when someone has passed. It is about the forgiveness in yourself, the ability to acknowledge that you are human, you get angry and make mistakes, but life never came with a manual so we do break things on our way back out to the unknown.

We knew nothing before, we don't know what's after and everything in between is new.

Last thing I want to ask, beyond all you think yourself, is your 15-year-old son proud to have you as a dad?

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Hello @NatureLover, @BPDSurvivor and @AussieRecharger ( and @Appleblossom and @wellwellwellnez and @Clawde ) –

Firstly I’d like to thank you all for your amazing support. I made it through yesterday. More importantly, I made it through yesterday having read NatureLover’s gorgeously supportive early morning post early in the day before everything started to come at me, and at many points throughout the day I tried to be mindful (uh-oh, I mentioned ‘the word’) of what NatureLover had said and, because of that post indeed felt (as NatureLover had written) that I had “enough support for [me], at the time when [I] need[ed] it”. One of my many issues is that I have no self worth (I have absolute buckets of self esteem, but those who have similar issues will appreciate the distinction) to the point that my self worth is (unhealthily) dependent on outside influences. Yesterday, though, in crisis mode, I took self worth wherever I could find it: and I found it in spades in NatureLover’s message – that a stranger could go to such trouble to reach out with such a warm, and such an understanding greeting to me on a very, very difficult day in my life made me feel not only accepted and understood but even a little bit resilient. Thank you sincerely, NatureLover. Big love hearts to you.

The result of the hearing yesterday was that the case will now be heard in the new year. This was a good result. Every time the case goes before the court there is a chance that we could lose the house and, without a lawyer, we are at the mercy of procedures that stymie and baffle us, even though our understanding of the legislation and the case law is thorough. We have staved off two such attempts to have the house taken in as many months. Given that this has pitted family member against family member it’s very unpleasant.

What was not unpleasant was reflecting on NatureLover’s and AussieRecharger’s thoughts about forgiveness: both of which positions I thoroughly agree with. And I was taken, too, with AussieRecharger’s question about whether my son is proud to have me as his dad. “Crikey!” as some of us are wont to say, I don’t know, AussieRecharger! Like any adolescent child, he has a healthy rejection of his parents going on, and his parents are both successful in a way that is not financially (or societally) rewarded. He would prefer it if we were good little capitalists saving up a nest egg for him and has said as much. So, while I know that he and I enjoy each other’s company, and actually like each other, I couldn’t say for sure whether he is proud of me or not.

This actually goes to a very kind comment that NatureLover made about my writing here. This is actually what I do as a “day job” (as much as you can call it that) and I appreciate NatureLover’s remark more because I am at that point of my career (again, if you can call it that) where, for a long time now, it’s everybody else’s work that is the focus and I very, very rarely get compliments (and that’s okay: a good teacher should have a comfortable relationship with limiting their own ego). Of course, when I do get a compliment, I get a bit borderline about it and go all gushy, but I am also very sincere when saying thank you. I want to say thank you to NatureLover for that very kind compliment, and to all of you who have read and supported me here, by posting a bit of my work that was completed the day before I joined this forum. I hope my words here in verse bring a bit of life and laughter to balance out some of my darker words in prose that I have committed to these pages.

With a very big thanks and light and love,

J

the Elsa impersonator had some outdated references

she faced Tetris anxiety in a portable igloo

led the cheerleading practice on Hoth for the Rebels

she debunked all the orbs in the Dyatlov Pass incident

made frozen meat popsicles with Walt’s head in a pickle

drank ice-cream all day by the pool with pink squirrels

she’d found witches in wardrobes while Jon Snow acted grizzled

fought the abominable Olafs opposed to net zero

and laughed like a sunset on moon-dappled meadows

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Hi @Jon840 ,


@Jon840 wrote:

The result of the hearing yesterday was that the case will now be heard in the new year. This was a good result.


I'm glad to hear that this is a good result. 🙂 May I ask how the SI is, after yesterday?

I'm glad also that you found my post supportive yesterday, as well as others' posts too.

Please let us know how you're doing...

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Hi and thanks @NatureLover and thanks too @cloudcore @Clawde @Appleblossom and @BPDSurvivor –

As you might expect, the SI is still there, but it’s not as extreme. The threat to the house remains and there is a whole bucket of other things going on that make me teeter over the edge: but at least I’m still hanging on to the edge!

The universe synched up for me in an amazing and totally random way today when I went to have – of all things – a COVID vaccination shot. I can’t really write about it because there is an anonymity issue involved, but for whoever is out there reading this post –

remember that this tired old world is still capable of turning up wonder for each of us, even when we’ve been to or are still hanging over the edge.

If any of you would have told me a week ago that what would happen today would happen today, that I would be very carefully shepherded to a situation that was literally just sitting there waiting to happen to me, I would have very politely laughed in your face. The universe doesn’t work like that, I would have said (from long and bitter experience [!!]), but sometimes it does work like that and it still manages to surprise and light up the sky for even someone as cynical as me.

I hope that tomorrow the universe manages to do an Adjustment Bureau level event for each of you who have so kindly supported me here.

Sincerely,

J

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Hi @Jon840 , glad you're still hanging onto the edge, and that the SI sounds manageable...


@Jon840 wrote:

...but sometimes it does work like that and it still manages to surprise and light up the sky for even someone as cynical as me.


Am glad to hear. You deserve something good happening, with all you are suffering.

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@Jon840

It was a big step for me to be able to acknwledge suicidal ideation as a passive rather than active experience. Took about 30 years to get to that place for me, as too many other things going on, but it meant that I could talk to the feelings rather than feel they would compel me to action.

Love your turn of phrase about the universe ..... "Adjustment Bureau level event" I have had many of those weird synchronicities ... yes it helps.

Apple

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How are things @Jon840 ? Just checking in. Hope you're ok.

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@BPDSurvivor, you are very kind. I am really grateful for everyone’s support of me last week: thanks also to @NatureLover and @moxi

@Appleblossom, I work with a book by Julia Cameron called The Artist’s Way (and have done now for about twenty-five years: it’s amazing) in which Cameron describes synchronicity as a way that life checks in with us to ensure that we are on the right path. Basically if we’re doing what we’re supposed to be doing with our lives then we’ll get little synchronicities popping up. I started a new project this year and was amazed at how the word “delta” started coming at me from every direction almost immediately. First it was the “Indian variant” being re-named “delta”, then I knocked over a box in a supermarket aisle and (embarrassingly) a whole lot of packets of Arnott’s Delta Cream biscuits spilled out, then I got interested in this US music genre called “Southern Gothic” which I’d never heard of before: it turns out it originates in the area of – you guessed it – the Mississippi Delta, then I heard that Delta Goodrem had put out a new album, etc. After a little bit of ambivalence, I knew that I had to keep working on my new project: the synchronicities were telling me to. So, if you’re getting synchronicities, Julia Cameron says anyway, you’re on the right path!

So, to answer your question, BPDSurvivor, I’m doing ok. I’d like to know how I respond to the situation that was presented to me at the COVID clinic last week and have very little idea what to do next … so I’m going to utilise another Julia Cameron trick: I’m writing down the question/s that I need answered and will reflect on them before I go to sleep: in the morning my sub-conscious should have an answer, or at least a direction to proceed in.

A very insightful friend and colleague of mine once said to me, apropos of a similar discussion we’d had, that it was okay to listen to the voices (we were talking about writing as a process where one listens to an interior monologue and basically just transcribes what is being presented), but when one is listening to those voices one should always listen strategically.

It was sage advice.

Thank you again, sincerely,

J

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