I feel very uneducated, stupid etc

@BlueBay

I think that you did ask for help by writing about how you are feeling.

I am still here if you would like to chat.

I promise to try very hard to write short answers.

Sophia sending you a big hug

Thsnkyiu @Sophia1 @MDT

I think I need to do some yoga to try to relax my overthinking mind.
tiu are a special person @Sophia1 yiu don't need to write short sentences for me!!!

i will come back later on maybe after dinner

I enjoy talking to you @Sophia1

thanks for hugs and care @Sophia1 @MDT @SJT63 @Shaz51 @Former-Member

xxxxxooooo

Oh dear @BlueBay ... you really are low today arent you? I am so sorry you are feeling this way.

One thing I can tell you however, is that you have never come across as stupid to me. I cannot comment on your education status, as I dont know what sort of education you have had. But I do know that education is not an indication of intelligence. Intelligence comes in many forms. People can be uneducated yet have a very deep intellect. Where as some of the most highly educated people can sometimes have absolutely no common sense. So at the end of the day, education is not the be all and end all, when it comes to intelligence.

I do know that you write really wonderful thought provoking poetry. So I can attest to the fact that you completely underestimate your ability to write well. I have seen and read much of what you have written. Let me tell you that you can write well, and you do. Please do not put yourself down @BlueBay 😔

As for not knowing what to write in support of others here on the forums. You are definitely not alone there. People express themselves very differently. Some say I write well. I dont believe I do. I often dont know what to write, and I regularly just hit the support button and let others respond, where I cannot.

Please never hesitate to ask me what I mean if I ever write something that you dont fully understand. There is nothing to be afraid, embarrassed or ashamed of in asking for clarification. Sometimes the written word, cannot portray effectively what we really mean, and thats hard for all ... both the writer and the reader.

You are most definitely not stupid, and you certainly have a brain. Mental health issues may sometimes cause us to think otherwise. But you need to stop listening to those thoughts, because deep down .. you know they are not right.

Can I ask you now @BlueBay ... have you taken any of your medications today? Please do, if you havent already. Hugs my beautiful clever worthy and supportive friend.

Emelia 💞🤗🌸

Now that is a very lovely reply @BlueBay

I am very sensitive like you. I was worried that I had made you feel worse.

Great idea to do some yoga, recognising that your mind is overthinking..

You are intelligent lovely Bluebay.

Warms my heart to hear that you enjoy talking to me.

Can I talk to you some time tomorrow morning?

I am very tired. I am not sleeping well.

Let me know a better time for you if you cannot do tomorrow morning ..We will work it out.

Look forward to having more hugs from you

Be as gentle with yourself as you are with others.

This is what I have to practise too.

xx💛 more big hugs xx

thsnkyiu @Emelia8

No not taking it

I don't care

I'm sick of taking them

I'm sorry you're prob angry with me

it's my self harm ways of dealing with stuff

maybe tomorrow

msybe layer

Thats okay @BlueBay 💕

No, I'm not angry at you for not taking your meds. Though I am disappointed to see you resorting to self harm as you are, and the fact that you feel thats the only way you can deal with things right now. I wish I could convince you, not only to take your meds, but also to believe what a worthy and valuable person you are to so many. Both here on the forums and also your family and friends. You always have a kind word for everyone, your supportive and caring nature shines through. I only wish you could accept the words of others here, rather than only believing the bad things your depression is telling you. Please take care @BlueBay ... I care, as do many others here.

Hi @BlueBay

For what it's worth, I can relate to a lot of what you talk about.

Mental health definitely does have an impact on our ability to understand stuff, I think. As my mental health continues to decline, I find it harder and harder to understand stuff. I'm finding that I need to sit and re-read things several times, and still I find that I don't understand what's being said.

I'm pretty good with regular conversations with actual people. But official documents/articles/statements? I definitely find it much harder to get anything from them today then I did 5, 10, ro 20 years ago. I think that, as the brain gets more and more tired of life, everything becomes more and more of an effort, including concentrating on stuff. That's my theory, at least.

Also, what frustrates me is that vocabulary seems to be changing every five minutes these days to accomodate all and sundry. I used to be able to call therapists "shrinks" (the common term of my generation) - until I offended somebody by saying that. So now I need to call them "therapists"; and I've even been pulled up by people telling me that I'm using that word incorrectly.

And now we are hearing phrases like "person-centered treatment"... What on earth does that mean? Was the old way of doing things "parakeet-centered treatment"? Were all us mentally ill/ suicidal/struggling people being referred to vets by mistake?

Jokes aside, we're now using "person-centered" because nobody can agree on a term that doesn't offend all and sundry. Some people don't like the term "patient", some don't like the term "consumer", some don't like the term "client", and a lot of people don't like the term "mentally ill". So now we are stuck with confusing language that offends nobody and tells us nothing. This isn't just confined to the realm of mental health, but exists right across our society at the moment.

Also, I can relate quite well to your experiances of "not knowing all the things that a grown adult is just supposed to know".

I have a lot of problems with geography, and other stuff. People expect you to go to places that you're just supposed to know the location of - then act like it's all your fault when you don't go there; because, as a grown-up, you're just "supposed to know" where to go.

Same with other areas of life. Your just "supposed to know" how to fix things, "because your a grown-up", but I've just never understood.

So your not alone, @BlueBay

Hey @BlueBay

Just stopping by, checking in. Hope the yoga helped you out, might do some my own self tonight!

I think a lot of people forget that trauma and the mental illnesses that can arise from it will actually change the physical structure of the brain, impacting things like learning, memory, information-processing, emotional regulation, etc. You certainly aren't unintelligent, far from it.

I can send some info if anyone is interested. After my ADHD diagnosis I struggled with this concept a lot too... but our worth and value as humans is based on far more than this one single facet of functioning, and intelligence itself comes in many forms.