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Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Hi all

I will need to change names to keep it anonymous so here goes. I need some advice over how to process what happened 2 days ago at work.

On Tuesday afternoon at work I was sitting there doing whatever work I'm meant to. The manager (call her D) comes over to talk to me and ask me how I am etc. D asks what I'm doing in life at the moment, if I was full-time yet, what I am studying etc. I replied by saying that I was still going in my job to which D replies "oh isn't that bad is it?"
This brief interchange took place in the open so that everyone around could hear it. I told D what it was that I was studying and then D drags in N (one of the young ones who works at this work stations) into the chat we are having because he studied that too. Both ask where I am studying at and I said it was online.
As this is taking place, I noticed two people listening in and smiling while its going on. One of them is P (who i know to be relatively new to their role) who i tried to talk to in the morning when I had to deliver some stuff to them. Had nothing to say to me except the basics. The other person listening in someone called T (who has been there a while).
so the manager "D" would have no reason to actually care how I was or what I was doing. Last time I was there at that workstation, she got told about my trip to hospital and that I was badly treated there. In this particular work stations there is an "in group" who I think are close to her. Towards the end of last year i accidentally tagged someone from that workstations in an email (lets call that employee R) and R found out about what myself and my friend J (who quit) thought about this work station.
I believe in simple terms, what has happened is that my confidence has been breached in light of me mistakenly tagging R in an email chain. Then because R is in the in group with T and N, they have told the manager "D" about what I said and D has then told them all about what happened to me last year in relation to hospital.

The reason I think this has happened is because of the way I was treated last time, but also this time people were not talking to me. Only a few people did bother and then when that happened I was unaware if they were interested or they were merely keeping up appearances. Only the "out group" spoke to me at any length and more or less avoided me.

The out group at this work station are the ones who are treated like shite. The ones they underpay and overwork. The people who don't wanna say anything about the way they are treated because they are worried about how they will get treated. At about 5 mins before the end of the work day, one of the guys in the out group leaves - let's call him M - actually bothered to say goodbye to me as he walked off. To which I made a point of audibly saying "see you later M, good to see you again, take care".
As I walked out to leave the work station I said "catch you later" to Q. She said "see you tomorrow". I didn't say anything and left. I wasn't going to be in the next day (yesterday) and just left.
It must be one of the weirdest, surrealist and most unconformtable experiences I have had in any workplace ever.

Clearly an apple cart was upset by me last year and I believe D is trying to get back at me by talking to me in front of everyone. I could see through it all about half way through.
I am still trying to understand it all and I need some help to figure it all out and if i should raise it

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

G'day @saltandpepper

Put it this way - what I said in the emails were tame. I didn't say bad things about anyone in particular - just that the work station was always treating people poorly.

You remind me of something my mum told me about this episode - they've been called out on it at some level.

I really appreciate your insight too @saltandpepper

I agree - I am drafting an email that I will consider sending to her. I will need to ask my actual manager about what it was he told D last year about my welfare. I won't say I am sending D an email - I will simply ask him what he told her and in as much detail as possible.

I will then think on it and consider it.

My friend who left had a similar exchange with someone in the past at a different work station and she emailed them. I don't know how it panned out. But it's the principle of the thing really.

As I undestand it, I won't be going back there as I have been placed somewhere else permanently with no chance of moving again. So I will wait and see what happens.

For now I just need to process the thing and go from there.

Thanks again for your insight as well

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

@MDT Well your mum sounds like a wonderful and wise woman.

Also, kinda shitty that your manager went and said anything about what was happening--feel like that in itself would warrant a write up.

I'll say this though, I've never worked anywhere that isn't a breeding ground for gossipy bull crap. It's everywhere we go. Glad you're moving to a new section, and i hope the people there are better to be around.

And people like "D" make enemies out of more than one employee, no doubt there's more folks at your work who are getting treated like shite. Find them, they'll keep you sane throughout the day.

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

There are a million stories @saltandpepper about different people in this workplace.
Its remarkably shite.

I guess i am another of them.

I wrote up a draft letter to send. But idk if I will yet. Its more of a coping exercise.

About to have dinner. But I feel as i am digesting the experience from this week.

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Good idea @MDT and if you have it written out now at least that way it's there ready to go if/when you need it

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Hi there @MDT

As I haven't worked in quite a long time due to health reasons, I feel like I can't really say much except to agree with @saltandpepper @Snowie

If the people there are still trying to talk about things in the past, then to me, that means they haven't got anything much to do and that they have got their own issues and want to only focus on what I see as a weaker person ie- you to make themselves feel good. It's almost like a silly game of power in a sense in that regard.

I hope what I said has helped in some way and I wish you all the best in dealing with your issues.

Take care forumite friend.

Judi9877

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Thanks @Judi9877
I agree - they needed to make themselves feel good or similar.

It is what it is. I think it'll pass.

I hope so anyway.

I'm off to bed - night my friend

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

There's actually a pretty good Buddhist story about bullying in general. Of course, we can't all be Buddha all the time but I feel that Buddha set the benchmark.

"After many days of travel, Buddha arrived at a small town to give a speech. Everyone was happy to see him, except one young man.

While Buddha spoke, the man was shouting at him. Buddha did not pay attention and continued speaking. This infuriated the man even more. He walked directly in front of Buddha and continued to ridicule him. “You have no right to teach others. You’re stupid and you’re a fake!”

The crowd began to react to this young man’s caustic behavior. Buddha stopped the crowd from turning against him and said, “It is not always necessary to counter aggression by aggression.”

Instead, he turned to the man and asked, “If you buy a gift for someone and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?”

The young man was surprised by the question, thought for a moment and answered, “It would belong to me because I bought the gift.”

The Buddha said, “Correct. It’s the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I don’t feel insulted nor accept your hostility, the anger falls back on you, as it was initially yours to give. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you’ve done is hurt yourself.”

The young man understood, clasped his hands together and slowly bowed to the Buddha. It was an acknowledgement that this man learned a valuable lesson that day.

And so, the Buddha concluded, “As a mirror reflects an object, as a still lake reflects the sky, take care that what you speak or act is for good. For goodness will always cast back goodness and harm will always cast back harm.”

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Oh great...
I'm going back there..

What is it with these people.....

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Well that worked out sh*t mate

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Re: Is this workplace bullying? I am unsure... this will be a long post

Yep

Well I am already taking Tuesday off @saltandpepper
For uni stuff
*cough* i am sick
Got better things to do than be treated like crap
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