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Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Hi there SANE Community,

This fortnight we welcome Turning Point to the SANE Forums talking about substance use, addiction, and the relationship with mental health. Turning Point are Australia's leading National Addiction treatment, education and research centre. They also help us out on the forums as Moderators 😊

Breaking The Cycle

When it comes to substance use and substance abuse, there can be a strong link with mental health and wellbeing. Often, we hear people talking about the cyclical nature of mental health and substance use, as one impacts the other.

Alcohol and drug use is common in Australia, alcohol more so with 79% of adults having at least one drink in a year (Australian Institute of Health and Welfare).

There are also many Australians with a dual diagnosis of mental health concerns and addiction.


One of Turning Point's addiction, drug and alcohol counsellors and their online community manager will be joining us to talk about substance use, mental health and recovery from addiction. We will explore the places you can seek help for substance use habits, or addiction, and support a loved one who might be on their recovery journey.

Please join us here on Tuesday the 27th of April 2021 from 7:00pm-8:30pm AEST to follow this conversation.

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In response to: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST


Question 3:

For many people, addiction, substance use and mental health are interrelated, and so is recovery.

One question that is often asked is what comes first, mental health or addiction? How are they related?


This is a common question that many people want to know the answer to and unfortunately its not as clear cut. Again everyone is different and so are their life experiences, circumstances and environement. Its almost a chicken vs egg question.

People who have a form of mental health issue for example can fall into addiction patterns as a form of coping with that struggle to optimise their mental health. Where as at the other end of the scale, I have spoken to people that describe themselves as having usually energetic and overall positive lifestyle, however after a period of time of using substances and increasing their dependence, they begin to notice feelings of immense depression, anxiety and other psychological effects that they hadn’t been exposed to prior.

In response to: Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Question for our community: What are your top tips for supporting a loved one who is living with addiction or substance use?

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

No worries @Time & @TAB, and again, thank you so much for being here and sharing your insights & experiences with us this evening. I know these discussions can sometimes be a little confronting and bring up some heavy emotions. You've done so well. I hope you're able to do something nice for yourselves this evening 😊

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@Daisydreamer the cravings come and go. Like your brother when I am stressed they are more insistant. Thinking of my children and how disappointed they would be if I drank something is enough to stop me from placing an order. Still hard though. Funnily enough I gave up ciggies years ago with no troubles but alcohol has hung onto me longer.

In response to: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Bye @Time and thank you for joining us tonight! We are so grateful you were able to be here and for all the insights and questions you have shared

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Question 4: Substance use can be a coping mechanism. At what point does using substances become an addiction?

Substance use can be a coping mechanism. People use for many different reasons anywhere from; dealing with trauma, daily stresses, loss of job, relationship breakdown, boredom, homelessness, the list could go on. For people that would like to stop using substances, they first have to acknowledge why they drink and to bring those reasons to the surface, even though this could be a difficult task to do. In order to heal, we have to come to terms with the pain we experience. The most common phrase we here is “I need to use drugs to feel normal” or “I cannot function without it”. This is a clear sign that the substance use has developed into a dependence.

Substance use is a SYMPTOM to a variety of other issues an individual is facing. Some find themselves in the routine of using substances whenever they feel triggered to do so; and some people has described this experience as a form of 'autopiloting' where not much thought goes into their habit or action.

Creating a roadblock where you can by trying to seperate the thought, the feeling and the action is a first step towards gaining awareness of the problem and intitiating change in habit.


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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Thanks , it's been a reminder that I still need to do something if nothing else @Daisydreamer

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Having that purpose and reason to not drink makes such a difference in those moments of cravings💜 Good on you @Bunniekins, giving up cigraettes too- both big steps 🙂

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Yes same here @Bunniekins the craving comes and goes, a bad day etc or tonight losing one of our jobs --- you want to have a drink

And when the craving comes , buy a soft drink

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

True @TideisTurning and I already did, had steak and veg for dinner. Thanks.

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