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Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Hi there SANE Community,

This fortnight we welcome Turning Point to the SANE Forums talking about substance use, addiction, and the relationship with mental health. Turning Point are Australia's leading National Addiction treatment, education and research centre. They also help us out on the forums as Moderators 😊

Breaking The Cycle

When it comes to substance use and substance abuse, there can be a strong link with mental health and wellbeing. Often, we hear people talking about the cyclical nature of mental health and substance use, as one impacts the other.

Alcohol and drug use is common in Australia, alcohol more so with 79% of adults having at least one drink in a year (Australian Institute of Health and Welfare).

There are also many Australians with a dual diagnosis of mental health concerns and addiction.


One of Turning Point's addiction, drug and alcohol counsellors and their online community manager will be joining us to talk about substance use, mental health and recovery from addiction. We will explore the places you can seek help for substance use habits, or addiction, and support a loved one who might be on their recovery journey.

Please join us here on Tuesday the 27th of April 2021 from 7:00pm-8:30pm AEST to follow this conversation.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

We made a tough decision to remove him from home when he was heavily on cannabis and refusing to seek help. Everyone we spoke to had recommended to do so. He has gone through a very tough time but without it, he would not have a support he has now with DSP, NDIS, QLD Health case manager and Public Trustee. My husband and I alone were doing everything we could do (or we thought it was best at the time) but we know that we did not have skills to deal with what we were going through.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Opening this question up to you @Calvin @Hello3 too

Question 5: What are your top tips for supporting a loved one who is living with addiction or substance use?

Where can families a
nd loved ones seek help? And what Turning Point Services are available for people looking for support for addiction and their loved ones?

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Question for our community: What are your top tips for supporting a loved one who is living with addiction or substance use?

Looking after yourself. You cannot help and support a loved one who is going through addictions or substance use etc. without taking good care of you first.

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

No worries GP @Bunniekins

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

I am so sorry to hear that today has been so hard @Shaz51 💜

The strategy around buying a soft drink instead is a great idea

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@Shaz51 sorry toi hear about the job hun. I am joining you in a soft drink right now too!

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@TAB😄

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

Hi Fhr,

I just posted to Hydrangea and some of that might be relevant to you as well. It was about serotonin levels and chronic body inertia. It was also about the effect that media such as computer games, movies and music have on mental health. The effect of these cannot be underestimated. You can't just get him off them but it helps to research and understand for yourself. If a child has played a lot of computer games he has released so much serotonin in childhood that the brain then becomes depleted of it and lethargy and depression ensue. The serotonin cannot be replaced by alcohol, heroin, methadone or psychiatric medication because these simply take more serotonin out of the brain and put it into the bloodstream. Gradually the brain learns to remake its own serotonin and the drug or alcohol can be stepped down. It would be great if he could find a good AOD (Alcohol and other drug) counsellor who could gradually communicate this to him over time. There are funded services such as Turning Point, WRAD, SECADA, ReachOut Australia, so you don't have to pay. You can go to counselling yourselves as well and to parent support groups to meet other parents going through the same thing. It is really good that he is still at home, you want him to be independent but if he is not ready he could be very vulnerable out there. It is a sign he feels comfortable with you on some level that he stays at home even though he might be difficult to get along with. When people are suffering they are not themselves. It is hard not to take it personally and it is very constant so a parent support group might be good for you.

You can't change him, it's a long slow process. Bit by bit he will find his solutions, eg he might find that getting off media makes him feel better. He might find some sort of hobby. Giving him his own tea and coffee facilities is like saying to him you are happy for him to take space, you don't need him to talk to you. Then there might be the magic day when he comes out of his room and initiates a conversation with you himself That could be huge for him. Try not to judge one single thing he says. I once lived in my parents' house for nearly a year without speaking to them and it took me 3 years to trust them, not because they were not trustworthy but because I had so much going on in my head, voices yelling at me, pelting me, abusing me, night and day, that I could not talk to anybody. I refused medication and it did settle down over time but it was very hurtful to my loved ones because they had no reference point available to understand what I was going through.

Watch out for signs of suicidal ideation such as saying, Everyone would be better off without me around. Go to a parent support counsellor to find out what to do if this happens.

Good luck. I really hope you all get through it. I really really do.

Merry Berry

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@Bunniekins wrote:

Question for our community: What are your top tips for supporting a loved one who is living with addiction or substance use?

Looking after yourself. You cannot help and support a loved one who is going through addictions or substance use etc. without taking good care of you first.


110% @Bunniekins 🙂 As the saying goes "You can't pour from an empty cup"

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Re: Topic Tuesday // Breaking The Cycle: Addiction, Alcohol and Drugs // Tues 27th April, 7:00-8:30PM AEST

@Daisydreamer

We both said " is it Friday yet " 😂🤣

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