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@HoneyOne @UprightRabbit @Shaz51 @WinstonOBoogie

Well all, I will be heading home this afternoon after work. I've only spent one night at home in the last week, Sunday night after my weekend away, and that was the disaster that lead to me running away from (being kicked out of) my own home on Monday morning.

I am not particularly rested as it's difficult to sleep in a strange environment and I've been just a tad preoccupied, but it has been nice not walking on eggshells waiting for the next thunderstorm to hit.

I called him last night, more than anything to make sure he was still breathing, and to gleen what sort of reception I would get. Desipite having sent two emails explaining that I loved him and wanted things to work out but hinting at a few changes that needed to be made (for discussion later) his first question was "are we over?". FFS

We got to talking, but I was silenced when I tried to lay some groundwork about the fact that we need to work together to address some important issues... "don't spoil it with minutiae".... on the phone I didn't press it but I'm going to have to or we will be right back to square one before the weekend is out. I have notes, I will stick to them.

The other thing of course is that his boys will probably be there before I get home. He hasn't seen them all week because I wasn't there, although why I'm not sure because he used to see them during the week before he met me, presumably they've forgotten about heating up pies in the oven since I started cooking proper meals for them. He rarely lets me talk about stuff when the boys are there but this time I cannot afford to be put off, he will try, he will come up with all sorts of reasons not to talk about what's been happening.

I need good vibes from you all to stay strong and stay en pointe. I will prioritise my list so that the really important things are covered first and hopefully check back in on Monday with a debrief.

Thank you all for the support and assistance you've given so freely over the last few weeks.

Much love, S x

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Hi @SJT63

I'm reading a lot of upset in your last message. I am so sorry that your pain continues.

I'm really keen to know how your partner's appointment went today. Any progress?

As has become my custom, I would love to offer some words of solace and advice, after I explain where they come from....

I've been sick for the week. My voice has progressively gotten weaker and hoarser, and now I don't have a voice at all.

This is how I came to be unwell.

My partner's parents were sick. My partner visited his parents many times. My partner got sick. My partner failed to tell me he was feeling sick and my partner failed to modify his behaviour to ensure I didn't get whatever he had.

After the 2 weeks of dental pain, to be sick again...soul destroying for me.

I'm the person who was carrying antibacterial handwipes long before this pandemic.

Anyway....

I woke up with NO voice this morning. And he was about to head out for the entire day. I was overwhelmed with the feeling I had become a prisoner. I was no longer able to even speak with the outside word.

So this morning, I when he asked me if there was anything he could do. I asked him to cancel his plans and spend the day with me resting.

And he did. Without complaining. It was nice, well as nice as it can be under the circumstances.

After all the times I have spent in bed when he's been off the rails, it was really nice to have it reciprocated for just one day.

And all I needed to do was ask. That was the hardest part.

I'm so use to being the one with the answers and the strength. Today I had neither. And I survived.

Honestly, today was only possible because the new medication has created some calm.

But to give myself some credit, I went out on a limb and asked for help and support.

So this is the area of personal development that I'm being offered as part of this relationship - getting clear on my needs and wants and learning how to clearly communicate them.

What I've noticed with my partner is sometime the most obvious or logical thing eludes him (or the conversation). So when I'm not 100% clear (even when the thing in question is so obvious) it creates friction. This friction comes from a place where I don't feel worthy of love.

We are both pragmatic, logical women. I know for me, connecting with my emotions has always been the struggle, so now I'm trying to do more of that. My logical brain is always there on standby if needed.

Now back to you...

Your last few posts have mentioned very little about you.... your wants, your needs, your dreams for the future.

Specifically this last post put the ball almost 100% in his court. That's how I'm reading it anyway.

I wish I could tell you in person how great you are.... just your cooking repertoire has me impressed.

And you know what else... I've been feeling really unsexy lately too. Because I've been stressed, tired and neglecting my own needs. I've mentioned my holey shirts before.

Sexy is actually a state of mind. I learnt this as a flight attendant. The women believed they were sexy and so they were. The spent a lot of time, energy and money on feeling sexy and so they were.

You have a lot to offer. A LOT!

What are your hopes for the next 10 years, specifically? What's required for you to get to the goals you set for yourself?

How good are you at asking for help? Can you use your talent to get your partner the expert help he needs?

I really don't like it that you're feeling so low about yourself.

I hope some of that is useful/helpful.

Chat soon,

xx

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@HoneyOne darling girl my heart is breaking for you being so sick on top of everything else you've had to deal with. I'm one of those people that arrives with chicken soup in times like these and then cleans your toilet while I'm there. That's why it's easier not to have friends, you don't have to keep helping them 🙂

I'm so use to being the one with the answers and the strength. Today I had neither. And I survived.

I sometimes indulge myself with an evening in bed when I get home from work. I tell Mark I've "run out of strong" and he will usually leave me alone for a couple of hours. I think he thinks it's because I've had hard day at the office and I don't disabuse him. That's when life is working normally. Today is my working from home day, but he comes in every 5 minutes to tell me the latest thought that's popped into his head. Last week I went into the office anyway. Actually quite nice when I'm there on my own and my boys are not barking questions or instructions at me.

Dr S has upped the dose of the stabilizers so we live in hope. He really isn't as bad as he was a few weeks ago, I haven't been physically threatened in at least a fortnight. Yesterday he asked me if he'd ever hit me. It's bit shocking to think he doesn't know, but at least he knows he is capable of it, which is a step towards not doing it I think. And no, he hasn't actually gone that far, even when he's been physical.

This friction comes from a place where I don't feel worthy of love.

Seriously, my first primal reaction to that statement is "so? does anybody? are we supposed to?" but then rational me tells me of course we are. Blah blah, self-esteem ............... it's a tricky one.

Like, I know I am really, really (genuinely at a professional level) good at doing a lot of stuff. That doesn't make me likeable, it just makes me a smarty pants. Ergo, most of the stuff that I do I do for other people in the hope that it will make me likeable. The modification I have made in the last couple of years is to not do absolutely everything anyone asks me to do and take my chances. I'm ok with that.

My problem is slightly different to yours in that I am almost too intimately connected to my emotions and the emotions of those around me. If you cry I'm in tears right there with you (or vomit or speak with an accent, both of which present a problem if I'm not careful). I not only take on board the emotional baggage of everyone around me, I have an almost irrisitible urge to try and make it better. I am usually so loaded up with assessing the needs and wants of everyone I've ever met that mine are too faded to see. Rational me doesn't let the outside world see my constant inner turmoil as I behave like a wise and calm doyenne. It's the theatrical training I think.

Do I even have any?

Your last few posts have mentioned very little about you.... your wants, your needs, your dreams for the future.

I need to be able to make the people I love happy. I need to be able to fulfil the wants and dreams of the people I love. UNATTAINABLE OR WHAT?!

Pragmatically, Mark and I are working towards being as close as possible to self-sufficiency by the time I'm old enough to retire (that's the 10 year plan). We are working on ways to store the solar power in alternative ways to chemical batteries. We make our own soap, yoghurt, vinegar, and bread - which is all I can keep up with working a 40 hour week. When I was a stay at home mum (before my divorce) I also made our cheese and pasta - and all our clothes, even hubby's business shirts. We grow all our own vegetables but I have to buy meat, which I do direct from the farm gate in bulk once a month. Cut out the middle man and minimise the food miles.

That is why I'd still like him to live here and be in my life even if we aren't going to be a romantic couple any more. For me, just being friends would take away a whole tier of "what could possibly go wrong".

My immediate (2 to 3 year) goal is to be able to leave the office work behind me and generate a living wage through Celebrancy (almost finished my Cert IV) and Millinery (I have owned racehorses in the past, that's where the market is - racehorse owners & FOTF) .... slow fashion from fast fashion using recycled clothing.

When he is well we really are living the dream. He and I are so like minded about how we want to live making as small an impact on the planet as possible and what we are prepared to sacrifice to make that happen. When he is well, he is the most perfect for me person I have ever met.

What I've noticed with my partner is sometime the most obvious or logical thing eludes him (or the conversation). So when I'm not 100% clear (even when the thing in question is so obvious) it creates friction.

yep yep yep yep yep, although I don't think that's mential illness I think that's the Y chromosome. I have always made a point of trying to be specific and never expecting a male partner to "get it" because I genuinely believe their thought processes are very different from ours. Not better or worse, just different in the same way a Japanese person would view blowing their nose in front of someone similar to how we'd see letting a huge fart rip at the dining table when granny was visiting. There are points of cultural difference between males and females that need to be accounted for.

I was a bit poor me yesterday and I apologise. I do need to sort the sex thing out with him as it's almost three days. He said something yesterday that may or may not have been an answer to my question about choosing but it could also just be something he said sensing I needed reassurance.

I will bring it up soon, but I will pick the moment carefully.

Keep all your chins up, keep hydrated and enjoy the virtual soup that I didn't make you.

Much love,

S xxx

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Hi @SJT63

I did very much enjoy the virtual soup you didn't make! It gave me such a chuckle!

Today, I am finally feeling better.

I re-read your post just now. We've spent a fair bit of time layout out all the challenges we have in front us. Which is really valuable because at least we feel heard. But like all good friendships, if we get stuck in a wholey negative cycle we're not really going to make the life for ourselves that we deserve.

So I'm proposing that we do our best do posts with only good stuff too.

I would really love to know someone of the great things that are going on for you. No matter how small. There is a cool website called "Superbetter" which helps people get through tough times in their lives. There is a really supportive community on there. So maybe we could incorporate some of the elements from that website?

What do you think?

xx

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Hi again @SJT63

I guess if I'm being honest, I'm now mentally preparing to leave this relationship.

The book, Attached, talks about this a little. I found it helpful to read their suggestions.

So if I'm leaving, I guess we won't be able to trade bipolar partner stories, but we can share good stuff in life stories, like your graduation to become a marriage celebrant!

My partner and I had another argument this morning. The medication has taken away the bipolar behaviours, he's actually quite himself.

My partner lacks the ability to connect, share, be intimate, consider me. That's no bipolar, that's him. It feels like I'm in a relationship with a boy of 13 years.

I've oscillated about moving, but I will move back home. I will start fresh. That's life, you make a mess, you clean it up and start again.

I hope you're also getting some clarity and perspective. Life is easy and joyful for most people. It can be for us also!

xx

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Did some sewing

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@HoneyOne did some sewing. Needs borders, sandwiches and quilting but its a start

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Hey @SJT63 , that's great!

I would really love to be able to sew well enough to make proper clothes. I can alter things but not create from scratch.

I've managed about an hours work today, which is awesome! I'm going to do some stretching right now, then get back to reading the book I'm enjoying. It's self help but at least it's something for me!

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Oh my gosh, I only just managed to see the image of your sewing.

Seriously that is amazing work! Wow! No wonder you get such enjoyment out of it.

I'm hoping to get a pic of all the wonderful produce you grow and whip into dishes!

You must have a good deal of patience with these hobbies. I'm now daydreaming about having a vegetable patch. My mum is an excellent gardener so I could ask her to help get me started.

Thanks for the lovely pic!

xx

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@SJT63

I have a horrible feeling that I may have hurt your feelings.

If I write when I'm upset my words come out very harshly. I'm so sorry for that.

It's been a really long month. And I'm at the final gate with my relationship.

Of course, this forum is to discuss the issues that come up for us. And let's face it, the topics we want to discuss are mostly challenging.

I only meant to write, let's start by sprinkling in some good stuff. I've read and experienced in the past, that when I start re-engaging my brain in a positive way, things shift for me significantly.

We do that a sometimes already, but let's be a bit more conscious of it.

Please forgive me!

xx

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@HoneyOne no problem.

Sometimes I need to be told to pull my head in. The reason I do my whinging on here is because I don't want everyone else I know to get sick of me whinging all the time, which is what happened when my first marriage disolved 16 years ago. Also, I kinda don't want them to know what home has been like since May. However, I think a corner has finally been turned.

I am often accused of being too negative.

So I will tag some other when I want to have a whinge and tag you when I have something else to share.

Stay strong. xoxoxo

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