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My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

I'm going to apologise in advance that this post will probably go in circles as that is how I often think😬.

I have thought quite deeply about posting this for a long time. One of the reasons for doing so is for any others who may be feeling so alone with this too. There seems very little support and information for it. I had desperately tried when first diagnosed to look for support but there is very little around specific to DPD.

Currently this label causes so much shame but it's not really just the label. I think because I always saw myself as a strong fairly independent person the reality that I matched many of these traits has shamed me to my core. My current diagnosis from a few psychiatrists is DPD with BPD traits, anxiety, dythsmia and probable adult ADD. My current therapist tends to see it as CPTSD with a mixed type personality disorder (meeting traits from a few personality disorders), depression and anxiety. She watched my personality come more disordered from the trauma a few years back. I guess it doesn't matter what the label is I know I'm a dysfunctional mess on most days.

Back to my elephant. When I'm with someone and they know about my elephant (DPD) she behaves herself (mostly my therapist and best friend) and I can grow and move on. When I'm in the room with someone who keeps treating my elephant as if she's bad (my mental health team frequently) she begins to fill the room until I begin to suffocate sometimes becoming suicidal. Sometimes I become paranoid about people finding out about my elephant and I let her take over and suffocate me, sometimes becoming suicidal. This is the other reason I have decided to disclose. On the forums I had been getting more and more paranoid that I'd show the traits and I was suffocating under it. This had nothing to do with anybody but me. So now my elephant is in the room here too and I'm hoping now that I've introduced her she'll behave😊.

Lastly for me DPD hasn't really shown its full colours until the last few years. Prior to that I've had a partner since I was about 16. The longest time without one is 4months. It's really common for someone with this to need to have to have a partner and really difficult to not have one. My goal is to be in control of me before I venture down that path again. I also don't meet the more common traits of not being able to chose clothes, or food or common things like that but decision making in general is something I struggle with, however I feel this is improving. I have huge issues with fear of criticism, rejection and abandonment. I am often very naive and fantasize frequently. There are many others too. Lastly the psychiatrists have said that DPD is the main reason I haven't worked since my first son was born nearly 22 years ago. This for me is a huge obstacle knowing I have to (and want to) enter the paid workforce again.

If anyone has any similar experiences please chime in. 😊💜

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Thanks @oceangirl. Seriously two hours ago my speech wasn't happening. I appreciate your kind comments. I'm heading home now. 💜🤗💐

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I was hoping it would make you smile @Former-Member ...... 😊

You helped me with my tea set this morning ..... 💕

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Hi @Faith-and-Hope

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Hi @oceangirl ..... could only manage a "like" last night after dozing off early .... not much sleep the night before. D3 fell and injured herself, waking me up to tell me, and then our house alarm had faulted twice during the night, and then the neighbours alarm at 5:30am .... :face_with_rolling_eyes:

I did get a solid 8 hours sleep last night .... yay ....

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Geez @Former-Member

It would be a wonderful thing if our therapists could get over their education for a moment and actually listen to our own opinion of our condition - after all - we are the one in the middle of it - we are the expert on it - and whatever else other people think -

I think you have Elephant in the Room Personality Disorder - and that's unique - and it's your disorder

So why don't they listen?

I had a conversation with my last therapist - and now she has gone interstate - what do I do to my therapists that they go away? - ohh sheesh - maybe I am too clever

Anyway - when I last spoke to my last therapist I told her that anyone could agree with the therapist's opinion but in their own mind they are saying

"No - I have something like Elephant in the room Disorder"

But only a few discreet people have heard of this disorder so the therapist thinks

"There is no such thing as Elephant in the Room Disorder - ERD - enough of this - I will have to persuade my client they have some other disorder - let me think what - ta da - um - whatwillIcallthenewdisorder?"

I get it Teej - cause I think I have CTD - Contradict the Therapist Disorder - because the therapists try and change my mind and in my old age that is getting harder

I hear you Teej - I think I have - I am allowed to feel unhappy disorder - and I want to have that one - whatever someone else wants to call it - because it is easy to feel the way I am and think that's okay - and I am unhappy at this time of year and resent people trying to change my mind that it is okay

That would just make me more unhappy

So I wonder - if they did invent a new disorder and gave it the Elephant name - would that help you? It would sure help me - because if people are not prepared to listen - how can they know

I think everyone has disorders and it is just how much they affect their lives that counts

I get it Teej - I hear you - I wish I could be a therapist and invent a new disorder with a new name that the client believed and start from there - I am sure it would work

Lots of hugs Teej

Dec

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Sorry it's taken a while to get back to you @Owlunar.

Im sorry I think I'm not sure if I've explained that my elephant in the room is Dependant personality disorder. It's something I feel great shame for and it seems to cloud lots of people's views and judgements, thus I call it my elephant in the room, it's often never discussed but decisions are made for me because of it.

For me in practical terms it means I struggle immensely with decisions, I'm naive, I need massive amounts of reassurance, I fear abandonment, am very avoidant and seek nuturance. I struggle hugely to prioritise because that's I big decision. Often it means I'm operating at the stage of a 12 year old and thus the shame. There is more but it's complex and very shameful.

As far as professional support goes it helps if the person supporting me doesn't question everything and stand two steps back incase I become dependent on them. This is the case for my phams worker who just says you do it to by yourself to everything. It destroyed me last week and I was in huge distress over it.

My therapist luckily gets it and treats me as a person. She trusts that this is not how I want to be and supports me at lots of levels when I need it. I try very hard not to depend on her and my dependence on her has lessened substantially.

Its when I'm treated as the diagnosis without discussing it (which then becomes the elephant) it removes choice for me and increases the shame 10 fold. It usually then causes distrust and distress for me and brings up huge thoughts of SH or SI.

Im not sure if it helps. Maybe it will help someone else. Thank you so much for responding as you always do. I hope today finds you well and maybe enjoyaing some sunshine. We've had lots of sunny days here so I'm hoping you've had some too. 💜🤗💐

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@Faith-and-Hope And anyone who chooses to read/respond.

I am going in circles right now. I don't know how to prioritise things and my head is a little insane. I am really unsure about how to hold things in or if writing them out will be productive. Just a little teej nuts and trying to work out which way is up

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Hi @Teej ..... ♥️

Is there someone who can help you prioritise things if you write a list ?

Can you divide the list into three "baskets" marked Today, Tomorrow, Later .... cut the list into individual items so that you can physically place them into three baskets, bowls, piles, and know that you can tip whatever doesn't get done in the Today basket into the Tomorrow basket, and the Tomorrow basket items into the Later basket if you want ?

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Things in my head @Faith-and-Hope

1. A parent is going in for a major heart operation tuesday

2. Brother is now coming over for a few weeks to help parents and sort my life out (settle with ex and other things)

3. Am getting confused and messed up re therapy. Am supposed to have a decision about what I need and from whom re therapy by next week with a threat of cutting supports from mental health team.

4. Am really confused by therapy at the moment. Don't know who I am or what I need or how to not let anyone down and how to deal with conflicting therapies.

5. A few days ago I was feeling really positive and like I had a good direction. Now just spinning again.

6. Trying to give up sleeping meds and am all over the place with sleep again.

7. Son is trying to buy a car and I don't know how to support him with this. Scaring the crap out of me. First time to do this alone

Hiya @Appleblossom. Feel free to jump in if you want.

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I was running in circles for a bit today too. @Teej I was worried I did not have glasses and asked a lady to help me read screen so I could print something.

Then when I got back to my car I found my glasses in my bag, .. lol .. but it is no matter.... she seemed to like being helpful and I made her laugh at me .. in a nice way. Broke some barriers ..

It is just pressure. @Faith-and-Hope has the idea with gradual sorting. Pressure comes in at us from many angles and is part of the madhouse rush that all of society is in.

I was going to rush into to town again today but have backed off and doing more of that ald sorting thing.

Had to buy rechargeacle battery for my cordless phone, post a letter ... and of course check my friends on the forum. tick tick tick

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