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My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

I'm going to apologise in advance that this post will probably go in circles as that is how I often think😬.

I have thought quite deeply about posting this for a long time. One of the reasons for doing so is for any others who may be feeling so alone with this too. There seems very little support and information for it. I had desperately tried when first diagnosed to look for support but there is very little around specific to DPD.

Currently this label causes so much shame but it's not really just the label. I think because I always saw myself as a strong fairly independent person the reality that I matched many of these traits has shamed me to my core. My current diagnosis from a few psychiatrists is DPD with BPD traits, anxiety, dythsmia and probable adult ADD. My current therapist tends to see it as CPTSD with a mixed type personality disorder (meeting traits from a few personality disorders), depression and anxiety. She watched my personality come more disordered from the trauma a few years back. I guess it doesn't matter what the label is I know I'm a dysfunctional mess on most days.

Back to my elephant. When I'm with someone and they know about my elephant (DPD) she behaves herself (mostly my therapist and best friend) and I can grow and move on. When I'm in the room with someone who keeps treating my elephant as if she's bad (my mental health team frequently) she begins to fill the room until I begin to suffocate sometimes becoming suicidal. Sometimes I become paranoid about people finding out about my elephant and I let her take over and suffocate me, sometimes becoming suicidal. This is the other reason I have decided to disclose. On the forums I had been getting more and more paranoid that I'd show the traits and I was suffocating under it. This had nothing to do with anybody but me. So now my elephant is in the room here too and I'm hoping now that I've introduced her she'll behave😊.

Lastly for me DPD hasn't really shown its full colours until the last few years. Prior to that I've had a partner since I was about 16. The longest time without one is 4months. It's really common for someone with this to need to have to have a partner and really difficult to not have one. My goal is to be in control of me before I venture down that path again. I also don't meet the more common traits of not being able to chose clothes, or food or common things like that but decision making in general is something I struggle with, however I feel this is improving. I have huge issues with fear of criticism, rejection and abandonment. I am often very naive and fantasize frequently. There are many others too. Lastly the psychiatrists have said that DPD is the main reason I haven't worked since my first son was born nearly 22 years ago. This for me is a huge obstacle knowing I have to (and want to) enter the paid workforce again.

If anyone has any similar experiences please chime in. 😊💜

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Re: My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

Yeah @Former-Member Just nibble at that elephant .. .. like that previous post said .. Gentleigh Bentleigh like

It might hang around for a bit ...

dont stuff it down your throat ..

it might your nemesis .. we all have to embrace a shadow side ...

make friends with it .. or at least a grudging .. hi .. yeah I can see you there ...

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Re: My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

Thanks @Appleblossom, @Faith-and-Hope

I think I've been in denial a bit with it. It's hurts often, a lot now.😢

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It back. The elephant is suffocating me. I wish I had just one person I could talk with who has this as their diagnosis and has moved on because every mental health person has a different idea and it's slowly getting me to dig my own grave. I don't know how to deal with it when all my health professionals are in conflict over it. Why can't we have a plan to be on the same page? Why can't I say what would help? I know some of it but shame is holding me back from taking the steps I need to forward with it all because I have to ask for help with it but when I do I get told to do it on my own for fear of dependence from most people. Most of the reason I'm so suicidal is over all this stuff. I don't know which way is up with it all.

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Can you write yourself any sort of plan @Former-Member ..... as in work out some baby steps ? Focussing hard enough on the football on Saturday stabilised you for the time you were there ..... can you work out stabilising action plans for the various usual situations you find yourself in and at least feel more grounded about those to begin with ?

I know it's not the same, but I hope this analogy can help somewhat .....

When i first had to work out how to deal with "emotionally disrespectful" people, I worked out that there were patterns of behaviour that kept sweeping me off my feet and into a state of chaos, a bit like being dumped by waves at the beach when you have never encountered surf before ...... from there I began to role-play these repeated circumstances in my head and practice what I could say the next time to take back control over the situation. I rehearsed it enough that I could actually counter the damaging behaviour in the moment, and redirect the outcomes to what suited me in my own home, with my own children, on my own occasions ...... shaking like a leaf and with a wobble in my voice the first few times, but developing authority over it all anyway .....

With practice it became second nature to defend myself and my children, firmly and politely, often with as simple a statement as "I don't want to commit to anything just now .... I need to think about it / check my diary / discuss it with my husband ...." while I worked out what had off need me, and why, and what I could do about it .....

Had one of those situations yesterday where I was thanked for something by someone who's place it wasn't to thank me ..... assuming authority over me as if they had issues the invitation ..... and I was a bit out of practice .... I should have thanked them, just as inappropriately, in return .....

Can rehearsing repeat-outcome situations with prepared responses help you too ?

Perhaps you can work out a check-in that involves three people, so the fear of a dependency is not landing with one person, but is suspended between the three ?

And maybe it doesn't need to always be the same three, as long as it is three ?

Is it accountability you need most ?

Does that make any sense ?

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Re: My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

Yes @Faith-and-Hope. I do need a plan. I got distressed because yesterday my therapist worked with me for two hours to get me to be ok with me and help me understand and accept what I need to do to become unstuck. I just had my appointment with my phams worker and I tried to explain to her but she is disagreeing with it all and got me in a muddle about what I need to do and I left there and came undone because I can't do any of what she is expecting me to do. And i feel like I'm being shafted because I'm too hard and unstable but that's undermining everything for me. And today was the first time in ages I hadn't had suicidal thoughts and they've come rushing back with vengeance and I feel week and hopeless again. And I'm so sorry for the negativity. I just feel lost.

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Re: My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

And it's ok @Faith-and-Hope. This one is not your circus not your monkeys which is why I wrote it here. I'm sorry I'm full of emotion. Something else happened too. And surprise surprise I'm stuck in my car and mad as hell.

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Re: My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

Oh dear @Former-Member ..... 🤕

I was going to say ..... just scrap what the phams worker said for the moment, because you were okay after your therapist .... so go back to the point where you were okay and try to pick that thread up again.

Is there someone you can talk through what the phams worker was on about with, and have them help you articulate where she is out of line ..... like your close girlfriend ? Sorry if that's not helpful. It's what I think I would do ..... try to go back to the place where it was starting to get muddled and write down dot points ..... slowly and carefully .... like untangling it ......

You can have a spout about what has made you mad if you like ..... and keep it anonymous by coding it .....

"And then the coffee pot said to the teacup .... how dare you criticise my choice of flavour ?? And the milk is not "off" ..... and you're out of your cupboard anyway cos I'm a COFFEE pot and you are a TEA cup ....!!"

Or make it about rabbits n chickens or something ..... it will just read like a story to us but you will be writing out the frustration with inside knowledge about who you are actually mad at anyway ......

💜💐💕💜💐💕💜

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Re: My elephant in the room - Dependent Personality Disorder

Hi @Former-Member
I hope you didn't let that phams worker get to you. If you connected with the plan that your therapist worked with you on, then stick to it!
I don't know why your phams worker is working outside of the plan you're working on your therapist with.

2 hours working with your therapist! It sounds like you did some really hard work yesterday. You should be really proud of yourself.

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Hi @Former-Member

I hear you. I think you are doing great dispute what has happen with the pham worker. The reason I say this is because of the things I see in you and observe here.

You are able to articulate your thoughts and feelings so well.

You ask for support and advice on here.

You work really hard with your therapist.

Your straightforward in your writing and that is very clear.

Your reflective of what is happening in your life.

By you writing so openly and honestly you are not only moving forward yourself but you are helping others because many people feel like you do. What you are feeling is normal. Whilst I don't think you see the progress you are making, and you are making huge progress. I am so proud of you. Keep going- follow your instincts because you are moving forward, and this will give you more confidence and esteem.

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Oh yes I did let the phams worker get to me @NikNik 😖 @Faith-and-Hope I wish I had more brain space to create a story with tea sets, thank you for that, it made me smile.

The other thing that happened was that as the full bolt of emotion took over my cc rang for my weekly phone call. I had no words. I was in a flap just not able to speak and distressed. I know that I have all these supports that are meant to be working together but each has their own agenda and it hit me yesterday with my therapist that she is the only one trying to address these parts of this diagnosis which is strangling me. She's the only one who makes it ok that I'm me and that this is workable. Everyone else is working against it and creating so much shame and fear. I've become so paralysed by it all. But the irony is that my therapist and I know we can't do this on our own in that I need other support too.

Im calming a bit now. Anyway the good thing that ended up happening was that my cc is going to meet me next week to try and decipher what I tried to say today (in tea pot language) and we'll try to address some of it. Now I just have to deal with the anxiety and face him in real life again 😱. I should add that at the time he actually calmed my farm for a bit at the end but my brain was fried to speak 😯 But then I let it all back in after whilst sitting im my car analysing it all. And I let my thoughts and emotions rule. Trying to find enough calm to get home now.

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